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. . Observational evidence and measurements are also part of science. . . Another example with which we deal every year—managing our salmon runs for sustained yield. Our Fisheries biologists collect observational evidence and technical measurements in an ongoing effort to put enough fish on the sal...

So, what would Rosenstock-Huessy have to say about scientism? "[Rosenstock-Huessy] is also a radically anti-rationalist thinker, but was equally hostile to ignorant hostility to science. Science, he says, is really good at studying dead things. Dead things are predictable, and you can do repea...

The subject is the secular religion of scientism. Could've fooled me . . ;) It is only Christianity which has codified belief to mean intellectually accepting a specific creed. There are no Islamic, Judaic or Mormonic creeds. All good Muslims, Jews and Mormons are assured of a pleasant afterlife if...

Thank you, gentlemen . . it's a hobby. I buy blank card/envelopes and rubber-cement copies of such sketches to the cards. Letter writing, with a fountain pen, is another hobby.

I also enjoy block-printing . . .
Denali

It is only Christianity which has codified belief to mean intellectually accepting a specific creed. There are no Islamic, Judaic or Mormonic creeds. All good Muslims, Jews and Mormons are assured of a pleasant afterlife if they do what is expected by the community. Internal cognitive notions are i...

. . [Jesus] in turn infected Saul/Paul and others.. who then infected even more others.. then Jesus turned into a resurrected Christ... and so on and on.. RCC, Reformation.. and on and on.. and here we are. Before Jesus it was no different... a never ending trail of infections and evolutions. Not t...

Parodite wrote:

Marcus wrote:3) Better said, Christianity has been—in parts, times, and places—infected with Greek philosophy à la Augustine, Origen, St. Thomas and more.

But Jesus himself was very much infected with Judaism.

He was indeed, Rhap, and in Jesus, Judaism blossomed and came into its own.

1). . It's absolutely possible [to believe in more than one religion]. Hindus often believe in Christ as an avatar of Krishna/Shiva, and the Roman standard was 'the more gods the better'. Buddhism does not require any belief in a divinity, so it is easily melded into many religions. 2) For just abo...

Simple Minded wrote:"There are two kinds of people, those for whom no explanation is possible, and those for whom no explanation is necessary."

Couldn't agree more . . thanks.

I wrote that one down . .

Sketching is a hobby . . anyone else . . ?

Some few years back, a family member lost 5k in a matter of seconds while attempting a stock transaction online. He sold all his stocks and paid cash for a rent house which now nets him between 5%-8% on his investment while increasing in value. A lot of family members lost more than 50% on their re...

. . Was Fred right, it is all about getting laid? ;) I thinking it may be more "intellectual pecker measuring" than adult pissing contests..... Was Fred right, it is all about getting laid? ;) The search for eternal truths..... or just socializing on the intellectual level.... rather than...

Parodite wrote:Sometimes "wise men" simply have nothing interesting to say

Rhap, I rather doubt you can define what is "interesting" to you without consulting your presuppositions.

Think about it . . .

Marcus, do you think it is possible to drink coffee, taste it, experience the process, give your opinion about that cupacoffee to the friend sitting next to you... without needing presuppositions, beliefs of any sort? Rhap, no, I don't . . not even close. We are who or what we are as people relatio...

Zack, just like me, you're a believer too . . we both believe . . you have your religion, I have mine. Surely you have better things to do than try to rehash something that has never been settled and never will be in this age. Is it possible to believe in more than one religion at a time? No, but t...

Marcus, do you think it is possible to drink coffee, taste it, experience the process, give your opinion about that cupacoffee to the friend sitting next to you... without needing presuppositions, beliefs of any sort? Rhap, no, I don't . . not even close. We are who or what we are as people relatio...

That's an unsatisfying response. You've been rehashing this "materialism" vs. "theism" theme for years, so I doubt you've grown too old or too tired. You're simply frustrated that you can't define or articulate how something that is, by definition, non-objective, non-observable,...

No, you believe because you assume one premise or the other, and your beliefs subsequently define your facts. Either a premise can be substantiated with logically coherent arguments and evidence or it cannot. You seem to be taking issue with the very concept of reason and of facts . If something ca...

Some few years back, a family member lost 5k in a matter of seconds while attempting a stock transaction online.

He sold all his stocks and paid cash for a rent house which now nets him between 5%-8% on his investment while increasing in value.

. . It is only through community that you are able to 'think' and 'represent'. . . . . we already observe a unity of indirect reference in the human experience. . . . . Why is it easier for humans to communicate indirectly? How does this universal grammar arise? . . What brings humans together in c...

. . the problems of representational realism . . Representational Realism sounds to me like another, tired rehash of Aristotelian forms. Objective reality exists, and all things are what they are relationally. Unknown.jpeg Description: This study, which is based on the 1992 Bampton Lectures deliver...

Everyone starts from one premise or the other—Materialism or Theism—and reasons from there, but never the twain shall meet. Get over it . . ;) I believe because I have been convinced and can reproduce the proofs myself. That is not the case with theism. The more that Scientific/Philosophical Materi...

On the basis of categories such as beauty, truth, and goodness . . about which Scientism has nothing whatsoever to say approaching a final word unless one, a priori , assumes Materialism/Scientific Materialism/Atheism/etc., etc., etc. Take it or leave it . . but never the twain shall meet . . :o Ho...

You guys have spent seven pages arguing what, exactly? . . What exactly are the proponents of religious metaphysical reasoning proposing here? That we make decisions impacting billions of human lives how , exactly? . . On the basis of categories such as beauty, truth, and goodness . . about which S...