Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism)

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Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism)

Post by Jnalum Persicum »

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ATOL - In Saudi Arabia there is no church, synagogue, Buddhist nor Hindu temple allowed. Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism) is not a religion of tolerance. Wahhabism provides the fundamental base for jihadism which causes unending strife and misery.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .. Mr. Perfect, I can not stop laughing,


Relaaax and read this

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It is not Iran that should be bombed. In Iran there are still Jews living there and praying in their synagogues. Muammar al-Gaddafi respected Christian and Jewish religions and their churches, synagogues in Libya but American, English, French, Saudi and Qatari-financed terrorists have destroyed churches and synagogues recently. Buddhist temples including Bamiyan Buddha statues have survived in Islamic countries for centuries, but they would not survive under the Wahhabism.

Washington and London are protecting Wahhabi extremists. In Syria, Christians and their churches were safe before the Westerners began sending their Wahhabi fanatics to kill innocent Syrian civilians.

In Bosnia and Kosovo, under the guise of "reconstruction aid", Saudi Arabia, Kuwaiti, and other Wahhabi organizations have demolished and removed major Islamic monuments which survived attacks by Serb and Croat militias. These were created by Muslims with an Islamic culture and tradition stretching back to 14th century, long before Ibn Abd al-Wahhab made his 18th century alliance with the warlord Ibn Saud who founded the Saudi dynasty - the House of Saud.

The Wahhabis, and the British, supported the warlord Ibn Saud and legitimized the Saudi dynasty and its struggle against the Uthman Khillafath of Turkey. Since then the House of Saud always supports Britain and its allies, including the US and Israel. When the House of Saud took control of the Holy Places in Arabia from the Uthman Khillafath of Turkey with British support, 15 centuries of Islamic heritage was destroyed, including the desecration of the tombs of the wives and companions of the Holy Prophet, in the iconoclastic imposition of Wahhabism. The iconoclastic Wahhabi House of Saud gradually destroyed several holy shrines, including historical places of Islam from the Prophet's house in Mecca and companion Ayoob Ansari's house in Medina and turned them into apartments blocks and hotels. They also turned the site of the Prophet's wives' houses into a parking lot.

The Wahhabi-backed House of Saud took full control of the Hijaz, Mecca and Medina, in 1924 and established the modern state of Saudi Arabia, with Wahhabism as its official religion. Since then the House of Saud has promoted Wahhabism as normative Islam throughout the Islamic world. The House of Saud was consolidated on massive oil wealth and has spent huge sums of money building Wahhabi mosques, publishing Wahhabi literature and funding Wahhabi organizations world-wide. Today, with Wahhabi control of the Holy Places intact, virtually every aspect and corner of modern Islam has been penetrated by Wahhabi influence through the agency of the House of Saud.

Through the control of the Hajj - the beating heart of Islam - and through their vigorous publication and propaganda means, the Saudis have ensured that almost all Muslims are infected with Wahhabism to some extent.

Present Zionist and Wahhabi doctrines foresee the fall of Iran, Belarus, and, ultimately Russia and China, after the fall of Damascus, to the combined forces of NATO and the Saudi- and Qatari-backed Wahhabis, who make up a large portion of the anti-Syrian movement.

Sufism is an entirely indigenous Islamic movement resistant to fundamentalism. Throughout South Asia, including Sri Lanka for several centuries, the spiritual tradition of Sufism has been vigorously present. Across Pakistan, the religious tenor has been correspondingly radicalized: the tolerant, Sufi-minded Barelvi form of Islam is now overtaken by the rise of the more hardline and politicized Wahhabism. Remember Sri Lankan cricketers were ambushed in Lahore by armed Wahhabi jihadists.

much more interesting stuff @ link

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Look, Mr. Perfect .. this idol of you, Romney and bozo Bolton in BED in Wahhabi criminals




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Jnalum Persicum wrote:.


ATOL - In Saudi Arabia there is no church, synagogue, Buddhist nor Hindu temple allowed. Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism) is not a religion of tolerance. Wahhabism provides the fundamental base for jihadism which causes unending strife and misery.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .. Mr. Perfect, I can not stop laughing,


Relaaax and read this

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[..]

It is not Iran that should be bombed. In Iran there are still Jews living there and praying in their synagogues. Muammar al-Gaddafi respected Christian and Jewish religions and their churches, synagogues in Libya but American, English, French, Saudi and Qatari-financed terrorists have destroyed churches and synagogues recently. Buddhist temples including Bamiyan Buddha statues have survived in Islamic countries for centuries, but they would not survive under the Wahhabism.

Washington and London are protecting Wahhabi extremists. In Syria, Christians and their churches were safe before the Westerners began sending their Wahhabi fanatics to kill innocent Syrian civilians.

In Bosnia and Kosovo, under the guise of "reconstruction aid", Saudi Arabia, Kuwaiti, and other Wahhabi organizations have demolished and removed major Islamic monuments which survived attacks by Serb and Croat militias. These were created by Muslims with an Islamic culture and tradition stretching back to 14th century, long before Ibn Abd al-Wahhab made his 18th century alliance with the warlord Ibn Saud who founded the Saudi dynasty - the House of Saud.

The Wahhabis, and the British, supported the warlord Ibn Saud and legitimized the Saudi dynasty and its struggle against the Uthman Khillafath of Turkey. Since then the House of Saud always supports Britain and its allies, including the US and Israel. When the House of Saud took control of the Holy Places in Arabia from the Uthman Khillafath of Turkey with British support, 15 centuries of Islamic heritage was destroyed, including the desecration of the tombs of the wives and companions of the Holy Prophet, in the iconoclastic imposition of Wahhabism. The iconoclastic Wahhabi House of Saud gradually destroyed several holy shrines, including historical places of Islam from the Prophet's house in Mecca and companion Ayoob Ansari's house in Medina and turned them into apartments blocks and hotels. They also turned the site of the Prophet's wives' houses into a parking lot.

The Wahhabi-backed House of Saud took full control of the Hijaz, Mecca and Medina, in 1924 and established the modern state of Saudi Arabia, with Wahhabism as its official religion. Since then the House of Saud has promoted Wahhabism as normative Islam throughout the Islamic world. The House of Saud was consolidated on massive oil wealth and has spent huge sums of money building Wahhabi mosques, publishing Wahhabi literature and funding Wahhabi organizations world-wide. Today, with Wahhabi control of the Holy Places intact, virtually every aspect and corner of modern Islam has been penetrated by Wahhabi influence through the agency of the House of Saud.

Through the control of the Hajj - the beating heart of Islam - and through their vigorous publication and propaganda means, the Saudis have ensured that almost all Muslims are infected with Wahhabism to some extent.

Present Zionist and Wahhabi doctrines foresee the fall of Iran, Belarus, and, ultimately Russia and China, after the fall of Damascus, to the combined forces of NATO and the Saudi- and Qatari-backed Wahhabis, who make up a large portion of the anti-Syrian movement.

Sufism is an entirely indigenous Islamic movement resistant to fundamentalism. Throughout South Asia, including Sri Lanka for several centuries, the spiritual tradition of Sufism has been vigorously present. Across Pakistan, the religious tenor has been correspondingly radicalized: the tolerant, Sufi-minded Barelvi form of Islam is now overtaken by the rise of the more hardline and politicized Wahhabism. Remember Sri Lankan cricketers were ambushed in Lahore by armed Wahhabi jihadists.

much more interesting stuff @ link

.

Look, Mr. Perfect .. this idol of you, Romney and bozo Bolton in BED in Wahhabi criminals




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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

I agree with much of the article but not all........
Because the House of Saud depends on the Americans for its security it always obeys American orders.
I hope this is true.......... and if so MAYBE we Uz can get the Saudi demon dog under control......

I fear that the situation is largely in reverse....... that the Saudi Salafi Slimes can get away with pretty much what they want with their oil, money and influence from that...... the corrupt influence the Saud family has over the Bush family is notorious.....

And the Saudis are using their influence to make the bad Islamic meme even worse.........

That said, I do NOT trust Sufis.......... going back to their founder Ghalazi and his incoherent ;) rabid razzia mind and continuing to the present.......

And while Shia Islam as seen in Persia can be much more cultured (art, music, literature etc.)...... it still has imperial/hegemonic ambitions..... and AIUI is still under the command to conquer the world for Allah.... and has been even more difficult for infidels under its control because of its nutso purity rules than some forms of Sunni Islam....... though not the Looney Sunni Slimy* Snotty Sandy Saudi Salafi Wahhabi Weirdos....

As said elsewhere........ Allies can be as dangerous or more so than enemies......... Certainly applies to the Saudis........ Would apply to the Sufi/Shia if westerners like Uz ally with them........

Need to think Three Dimensionally ;) ......... Change the Game** conditions............ Get out into Space..........

Before we depraved sinful treacherous killer ape human beings destroy ourselves or the next big space rock does it for us...........

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Post by Jnalum Persicum »

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monster_gardener wrote:.
Jnalum Persicum wrote:.


ATOL - In Saudi Arabia there is no church, synagogue, Buddhist nor Hindu temple allowed. Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism) is not a religion of tolerance. Wahhabism provides the fundamental base for jihadism which causes unending strife and misery.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .. Mr. Perfect, I can not stop laughing,


Relaaax and read this

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[..]

It is not Iran that should be bombed. In Iran there are still Jews living there and praying in their synagogues. Muammar al-Gaddafi respected Christian and Jewish religions and their churches, synagogues in Libya but American, English, French, Saudi and Qatari-financed terrorists have destroyed churches and synagogues recently. Buddhist temples including Bamiyan Buddha statues have survived in Islamic countries for centuries, but they would not survive under the Wahhabism.

Washington and London are protecting Wahhabi extremists. In Syria, Christians and their churches were safe before the Westerners began sending their Wahhabi fanatics to kill innocent Syrian civilians.

In Bosnia and Kosovo, under the guise of "reconstruction aid", Saudi Arabia, Kuwaiti, and other Wahhabi organizations have demolished and removed major Islamic monuments which survived attacks by Serb and Croat militias. These were created by Muslims with an Islamic culture and tradition stretching back to 14th century, long before Ibn Abd al-Wahhab made his 18th century alliance with the warlord Ibn Saud who founded the Saudi dynasty - the House of Saud.

The Wahhabis, and the British, supported the warlord Ibn Saud and legitimized the Saudi dynasty and its struggle against the Uthman Khillafath of Turkey. Since then the House of Saud always supports Britain and its allies, including the US and Israel. When the House of Saud took control of the Holy Places in Arabia from the Uthman Khillafath of Turkey with British support, 15 centuries of Islamic heritage was destroyed, including the desecration of the tombs of the wives and companions of the Holy Prophet, in the iconoclastic imposition of Wahhabism. The iconoclastic Wahhabi House of Saud gradually destroyed several holy shrines, including historical places of Islam from the Prophet's house in Mecca and companion Ayoob Ansari's house in Medina and turned them into apartments blocks and hotels. They also turned the site of the Prophet's wives' houses into a parking lot.

The Wahhabi-backed House of Saud took full control of the Hijaz, Mecca and Medina, in 1924 and established the modern state of Saudi Arabia, with Wahhabism as its official religion. Since then the House of Saud has promoted Wahhabism as normative Islam throughout the Islamic world. The House of Saud was consolidated on massive oil wealth and has spent huge sums of money building Wahhabi mosques, publishing Wahhabi literature and funding Wahhabi organizations world-wide. Today, with Wahhabi control of the Holy Places intact, virtually every aspect and corner of modern Islam has been penetrated by Wahhabi influence through the agency of the House of Saud.

Through the control of the Hajj - the beating heart of Islam - and through their vigorous publication and propaganda means, the Saudis have ensured that almost all Muslims are infected with Wahhabism to some extent.

Present Zionist and Wahhabi doctrines foresee the fall of Iran, Belarus, and, ultimately Russia and China, after the fall of Damascus, to the combined forces of NATO and the Saudi- and Qatari-backed Wahhabis, who make up a large portion of the anti-Syrian movement.

Sufism is an entirely indigenous Islamic movement resistant to fundamentalism. Throughout South Asia, including Sri Lanka for several centuries, the spiritual tradition of Sufism has been vigorously present. Across Pakistan, the religious tenor has been correspondingly radicalized: the tolerant, Sufi-minded Barelvi form of Islam is now overtaken by the rise of the more hardline and politicized Wahhabism. Remember Sri Lankan cricketers were ambushed in Lahore by armed Wahhabi jihadists.

much more interesting stuff @ link

.

Look, Mr. Perfect .. this idol of you, Romney and bozo Bolton in BED in Wahhabi criminals



.

I agree with much of the article but not all........
Because the House of Saud depends on the Americans for its security it always obeys American orders.
I hope this is true.......... and if so MAYBE we Uz can get the Saudi demon dog under control......

I fear that the situation is largely in reverse....... that the Saudi Salafi Slimes can get away with pretty much what they want with their oil, money and influence from that...... the corrupt influence the Saud family has over the Bush family is notorious.....

And the Saudis are using their influence to make the bad Islamic meme even worse.........


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Monster, honestly, have not yet figured you out

Who the f*ck are the Saudi or any of those Amirs and Sheiks and Kings

Qaddafi's Libya had billions of Dollars, you name it, they had it, Gold and and

Where are those billions now ? ?

frozen

look, those Sheiks and Amirs and Saudi, their money, dollars or shares in companies or asset in west, real estate and and and .. all .. can be frozen with a flip of a switch .. a terrorist sticker, bingo, even their balls will be frozen .. those sheiks no Iranian sophisticated acrobats

what does it mean ? ?

It means,

those wahhabi, Salafi , Sheiks, Amirs and and and .. are less than a mosquito in the hands of Western powers .. less than zero power

West just needs to lift the phone and tell Saudi Royal shitheads to leave and they would be gone in a minute .. the Persian Golf Sheiks in reality prisoners of western powers.

Monster, that article says, wahhabism and those Kings and Amirs and Sheiks are western creations to terrorist ME and Mulsim people .. that is what Iran saying

monster_gardener wrote:.

That said, I do NOT trust Sufis.......... going back to their founder Ghalazi and his incoherent ;) rabid razzia mind and continuing to the present.......

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Am sure you mean Persian Grand Master of Sufism Ghazali (and not Ghalazi)

have the impression you misunderstand essence of Sufism

monster_gardener wrote:.

And while Shia Islam as seen in Persia can be much more cultured (art, music, literature etc.)...... it still has imperial/hegemonic ambitions..... and AIUI is still under the command to conquer the world for Allah.... and has been even more difficult for infidels under its control because of its nutso purity rules than some forms of Sunni Islam....... though not the Looney Sunni Slimy* Snotty Sandy Saudi Salafi Wahhabi Weirdos....

As said elsewhere........ Allies can be as dangerous or more so than enemies......... Certainly applies to the Saudis........ Would apply to the Sufi/Shia if westerners like Uz ally with them........


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Again here, Monster, you misunderstand "Shia Islam" .. Shia 12-emami Jafari Iranian Islam

Iranian Shia (95% of Shia population) nothing to do with imperial ambitions etc etc

Matter of fact, most of "Greater Persia" to be repatriated (not yet within Iran) are Sunni and not Shia

Iranian civilization and culture is 98% pre-Shia Islam .. pre Safavid rule .. all Giants of Persian civilization and culture, pretty much without exception, were (Persian) Sunni .. Islam-Ajami

Islam-Ajami is not Shia- Islam

Islam-Ajami is Molana and Hafez and Khayam and and and Islam .. they were all Sunni, but Iranian school of Sunni Islam, what is called Islam-Ajami (Arabic name for Iranian Islam)



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This Mr. Hempher crap has been debunked a tiresome number of times.
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Jnalum Persicum wrote:.


Sufism is an entirely indigenous Islamic movement resistant to fundamentalism. Throughout South Asia, including Sri Lanka for several centuries, the spiritual tradition of Sufism has been vigorously present. Across Pakistan, the religious tenor has been correspondingly radicalized: the tolerant, Sufi-minded Barelvi form of Islam is now overtaken by the rise of the more hardline and politicized Wahhabism. Remember Sri Lankan cricketers were ambushed in Lahore by armed Wahhabi jihadists.


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I don't fully understand the claim that Sufism is entirely indigenous. I was under the impression that Mevlana had influences from Afganistan and Iran. Can you clarify this?







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Not only is it meaningless to refer to Sufism as "indigenous," there have also been what we would call "extremist" Sufis throughout history.
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Once the petrodollar system collapses, the US can stop giving the Saudis a pass. But by then, it will have too much to worry about to antagonize yet another Middle Eastern country.
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Ibrahim wrote:Not only is it meaningless to refer to Sufism as "indigenous," there have also been what we would call "extremist" Sufis throughout history.
[emphasis added by HAL 9000]

I know that there has been some extremist Sufis, but saying "throughout history" is perhaps too strong because it may be misconstrued to imply that extremism has been very popular among Sufis. Show some data to illustrate how frequent and popular extremism among Sufis has been. Janissaries were not extremists, they were just obeying orders, and they were just assigned this version of Islam in order to make the military system work since Sufism is more ascetic and it was also considered more Turkish due to geographic reasons despite the Afghan and Iranian influence. In fact, this terminology of "extremists throughout history" is in fact harmful because it diverts attention from the fact that Sufis are doing a very good job. Overall, the Sufi system is inherently more inward looking and introspective, their definition of struggle is at least officially oriented towards inner development even when they get political.

Surely there has been a few extremist Sufis who are intolerant, but I strongly believe that statistically most religious members of the Sufi order are inherently more tolerant than most other religious Muslims, even though I don't have the numbers in front of me to "prove" this point. I am only saying this from the private conversations with Sufi Palestinians in Jerusalem who discussed with me the possibility of peace, as well as my conversations with Turks who are in the know about Sufism.

Here is a video from Turkey, of the famous spiritual Turkish singer Kani Karaca, who is singing in Hebrew Language at a Sufi lodge in Turkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-oosxp3b8M

Montrez moi les autres Musulmans qui donnent permission d'employer l'Hebreu dans les mosques. :lol: :D :P

The Donmes (Ottoman Turkish Jews who converted to Islam more than 300 years ago) were using Sufi rituals as the foundation of their cult. I will prepare a special thread about the Donmes who used Sufism as their foundation in Turkey.
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HAL9000 wrote:
Ibrahim wrote:Not only is it meaningless to refer to Sufism as "indigenous," there have also been what we would call "extremist" Sufis throughout history.
[emphasis added by HAL 9000]

I know that there has been some extremist Sufis, but saying throughout history is perhaps too strong. Show some data to illustrate how frequent this has been. Janissaries were not extremists, they were just obeying orders,
:roll: Where have I heard that before. Anyway I was thinking of the Qizilbashes of the Safavid through Qajarite dynasties of Iran, and the Janissary corps (some of whom were extrme, others perhaps not) and some of the early members/founders of the Muslim Brotherhood who were also members of Sufi orders.


Look, we're talking about centuries of Sufi history, I'm saying there are some extreme figures during that time. Is this even debatable? Every person calling themselves a Sufi in history was a saint? I guess that's still not as dumb as Spengler's article about Sufism....



Surely there has been a few extremist Sufis who are intolerant, but I strongly believe that statistically most religious members of the Sufi order are inherently more tolerant than most other religious Muslims, even though I don't have the numbers in front of me to "prove" this point.
So not really "statistically" then. At best anecdotally.
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I agree with Ibrahim.........

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Ibrahim wrote:Not only is it meaningless to refer to Sufism as "indigenous," there have also been what we would call "extremist" Sufis throughout history.
Thank You VERY MUCH for your post, Ibrahim.

QUITE Correct.........

Seconded...........

Starting right at the beginning.........
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Ibrahim wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Ibrahim wrote:Not only is it meaningless to refer to Sufism as "indigenous," there have also been what we would call "extremist" Sufis throughout history.
[emphasis added by HAL 9000]

I know that there has been some extremist Sufis, but saying throughout history is perhaps too strong. Show some data to illustrate how frequent this has been. Janissaries were not extremists, they were just obeying orders,
:roll: Where have I heard that before. Anyway I was thinking of the Qizilbashes of the Safavid through Qajarite dynasties of Iran, and the Janissary corps (some of whom were extrme, others perhaps not) and some of the early members/founders of the Muslim Brotherhood who were also members of Sufi orders.


Look, we're talking about centuries of Sufi history, I'm saying there are some extreme figures during that time. Is this even debatable? Every person calling themselves a Sufi in history was a saint? I guess that's still not as dumb as Spengler's article about Sufism....



Surely there has been a few extremist Sufis who are intolerant, but I strongly believe that statistically most religious members of the Sufi order are inherently more tolerant than most other religious Muslims, even though I don't have the numbers in front of me to "prove" this point.
So not really "statistically" then. At best anecdotally.
My interactions with Sufis have been very encouraging. Roman Jews who were in Anatolia since the Roman Empire sent them there, (long before the Spanish Jews came to Turkey) became unofficially involved with Mevlana's work. When Mevlana died, many of them mourned.

And I am not the only Zionist who gets along with Sufis. The Sufi sheikh who came to my synagogue in Jerusalem to lecture in the middle of the war risked his life. He said that his group is interested in cutting a deal, but that they are afraid for their lives. I would risk my life for people like him.

As I said, I will prepare a new thread about the Donmes who were in fact based on Sufism.
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HAL9000 wrote:My interactions with Sufis have been very encouraging.
Ibrahim wrote:So not really "statistically" then. At best anecdotally.
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Jnalum Persicum wrote:.
Look, Mr. Perfect .. this idol of you, Romney and bozo Bolton in BED in Wahhabi criminals
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Well, you guys had a chance with Baramba, blew it, now back to the brass knuckles.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:.
Jnalum Persicum wrote:.

Look, Mr. Perfect .. this idol of you, Romney and bozo Bolton in BED in Wahhabi criminals

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Well, you guys had a chance with Baramba, blew it, now back to the brass knuckles.

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Mr. Perfect ,

2B honest, seems (2me), you 4got the disaster W.Bush got you guys into .. poor Obama cleaning the sh*t left by Rumsfeld and the gang

well

Romney has not learned a thing from Bush’s failures – Russia


MP, making mistake no problemo , but, only idiots make the same mistake again

You really craving for more of the same, MP, really ? ? ?

don't 4get , neither sheep nor lion the same as used 2B


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Jnalum Persicum wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:.
Jnalum Persicum wrote:.

Look, Mr. Perfect .. this idol of you, Romney and bozo Bolton in BED in Wahhabi criminals

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Well, you guys had a chance with Baramba, blew it, now back to the brass knuckles.

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Mr. Perfect ,

2B honest, seems (2me), you 4got the disaster W.Bush got you guys into .. poor Obama cleaning the sh*t left by Rumsfeld and the gang

well

Romney has not learned a thing from Bush’s failures – Russia


MP, making mistake no problemo , but, only idiots make the same mistake again

You really craving for more of the same, MP, really ? ? ?

don't 4get , neither sheep nor lion the same as used 2B


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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.
only idiots make the same mistake again
Sadly not so......

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Jnalum Persicum wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:.
Jnalum Persicum wrote:.

Look, Mr. Perfect .. this idol of you, Romney and bozo Bolton in BED in Wahhabi criminals

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Well, you guys had a chance with Baramba, blew it, now back to the brass knuckles.

.

Mr. Perfect ,

2B honest, seems (2me), you 4got the disaster W.Bush got you guys into .. poor Obama cleaning the sh*t left by Rumsfeld and the gang

well

Romney has not learned a thing from Bush’s failures – Russia


MP, making mistake no problemo , but, only idiots make the same mistake again

You really craving for more of the same, MP, really ? ? ?

don't 4get , neither sheep nor lion the same as used 2B


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Jnalum Persicum wrote: Mr. Perfect ,

2B honest, seems (2me), you 4got the disaster W.Bush got you guys into .. poor Obama cleaning the sh*t left by Rumsfeld and the gang

well

Romney has not learned a thing from Bush’s failures – Russia


MP, making mistake no problemo , but, only idiots make the same mistake again

You really craving for more of the same, MP, really ? ? ?

don't 4get , neither sheep nor lion the same as used 2B


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Actually JN, no one talking about same mistakes, over here people talking about glass in the desert. Joe had enough. Spent a lot of time with Joe this weekend, he had enough, wants glass. We spent all this money on nukes, may as well put them to use.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Jnalum Persicum wrote: Mr. Perfect ,

2B honest, seems (2me), you 4got the disaster W.Bush got you guys into .. poor Obama cleaning the sh*t left by Rumsfeld and the gang

well

Romney has not learned a thing from Bush’s failures – Russia


MP, making mistake no problemo , but, only idiots make the same mistake again

You really craving for more of the same, MP, really ? ? ?

don't 4get , neither sheep nor lion the same as used 2B


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Actually JN, no one talking about same mistakes, over here people talking about glass in the desert. Joe had enough. Spent a lot of time with Joe this weekend, he had enough, wants glass. We spent all this money on nukes, may as well put them to use.
Thank you Very Much for your post, Mr. Perfect.

True........ If 911 happens again almost for sure...........

And we and Iz are getting itchy trigger fingers when someone calls us "Satan" and says "We will rain fire on you!" and then pursues a nuclear program..........

I'm a bit strange Down in the Black Gang...... I want to use those nukes to get Uz, Iz and anyone else sane off planet on Orion wings......

Some of that glass may blow back as radioactive ground glass...... :roll: :evil:

But no more of this teaching Democracy to Killer Apes who act like Crazy Demons... Shooting 14 year old girls because they want an education

http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci ... ng-schools

Not to drone :twisted: on and we too have our own many sins.........

But they are EVIL too... And we need to remember that when dealing with them.......
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Re: Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism)

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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Jnalum Persicum wrote: Mr. Perfect ,

2B honest, seems (2me), you 4got the disaster W.Bush got you guys into .. poor Obama cleaning the sh*t left by Rumsfeld and the gang

well

Romney has not learned a thing from Bush’s failures – Russia


MP, making mistake no problemo , but, only idiots make the same mistake again

You really craving for more of the same, MP, really ? ? ?

don't 4get , neither sheep nor lion the same as used 2B


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Actually JN, no one talking about same mistakes, over here people talking about glass in the desert. Joe had enough. Spent a lot of time with Joe this weekend, he had enough, wants glass. We spent all this money on nukes, may as well put them to use.

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Come on , MP, Come on

you and I know you bluffing

why bluffin ? ?

because that knife cuts both way

world is now AWASH with (known) nuclear weapons, 4get the unknown ones .. there are 100+ nuclear bombs that are missing, there are 1000+ of kilo weapon grade stuff missing

Nobody is afraid anymore from western nuclear PumpKins

People who live in Christal houses should not throw rocks

really silly, MP .. You guys thought "Stuxnet" will destroy Iranian this and that .. well, now others can turn your light on & off without you be able to do a thing .. every day you introduce more silly stuff without thinking the blow-back .. you send drone over Iran, others send drone over Zionist nuclear sites

You not dealing with fools (anymore)



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Re: Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism)

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Jnalum Persicum wrote:
Come on , MP, Come on

you and I know you bluffing

why bluffin ? ?

because that knife cuts both way

world is now AWASH with (known) nuclear weapons, 4get the unknown ones .. there are 100+ nuclear bombs that are missing, there are 1000+ of kilo weapon grade stuff missing

Nobody is afraid anymore from western nuclear PumpKins

People who live in Christal houses should not throw rocks

really silly, MP .. You guys thought "Stuxnet" will destroy Iranian this and that .. well, now others can turn your light on & off without you be able to do a thing .. every day you introduce more silly stuff without thinking the blow-back .. you send drone over Iran, others send drone over Zionist nuclear sites

You not dealing with fools (anymore)

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JN, not giving my desire, just giving assessment. Joe had it after Bengazi, etc, no more patience. I talk to Joe everyday. Went weak kneed at the end of Bush, but no longer, in the mood for glass. Bolton, Romney appear to be in the mood. Just sayin.

Nobody will hit back.
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Fools dealing with Fools....

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Jnalum Persicum wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Jnalum Persicum wrote: Mr. Perfect ,

2B honest, seems (2me), you 4got the disaster W.Bush got you guys into .. poor Obama cleaning the sh*t left by Rumsfeld and the gang

well

Romney has not learned a thing from Bush’s failures – Russia


MP, making mistake no problemo , but, only idiots make the same mistake again

You really craving for more of the same, MP, really ? ? ?

don't 4get , neither sheep nor lion the same as used 2B


.
Actually JN, no one talking about same mistakes, over here people talking about glass in the desert. Joe had enough. Spent a lot of time with Joe this weekend, he had enough, wants glass. We spent all this money on nukes, may as well put them to use.

.

Come on , MP, Come on

you and I know you bluffing

why bluffin ? ?

because that knife cuts both way

world is now AWASH with (known) nuclear weapons, 4get the unknown ones .. there are 100+ nuclear bombs that are missing, there are 1000+ of kilo weapon grade stuff missing

Nobody is afraid anymore from western nuclear PumpKins

People who live in Christal houses should not throw rocks

really silly, MP .. You guys thought "Stuxnet" will destroy Iranian this and that .. well, now others can turn your light on & off without you be able to do a thing .. every day you introduce more silly stuff without thinking the blow-back .. you send drone over Iran, others send drone over Zionist nuclear sites

You not dealing with fools (anymore)



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Thank You Very Much for your post, Azari
world is now AWASH with (known) nuclear weapons, 4get the unknown ones .. there are 100+ nuclear bombs that are missing, there are 1000+ of kilo weapon grade stuff missing

Nobody is afraid anymore from western nuclear PumpKins
I am so afraid of nuclear Pumpkins that I want to use them productively........

Orion Nuclear Propulsion system to get a genetically survivable population off planet..........

Am afraid that IF WE ARE LUCKY much or all of the Northern Hemisphere becomes effectively not very inhabitable.......

People are not always rational......

People believe in the MADhi..........

People believe Jesus is Coming Again soon so we don't need to clean up messes we make (Jared Diamond comparing the bad corporate culture of hard miners to the environmentally friendly culture of oil companies in New Guinea)

Mistakes happen........ We have been lucky multiple times..... at least 2 different Russians saved the world on separate occasions.........

Here is one...

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Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov (Russian: Василий Александрович Архипов) (30 January 1926 –19 August 1998) was a Soviet naval officer. During the Cuban Missile Crisis he prevented the launch of a nuclear torpedo and therefore a possible nuclear war. His story is to this day unknown to the wider public, although some believe that, as Thomas Blanton (then director of the National Security Archive) expressed it in 2002, "a guy called Vasili Arkhipov saved the world."[1]
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Three officers on board the submarine – Savitsky, the political officer Ivan Semonovich Maslennikov, and the second-in-command Arkhipov – were authorized to launch the torpedo if agreeing unanimously in favor of doing so. An argument broke out among the three, in which only Arkhipov was against the launch.[6] Although Arkhipov was only second-in-command of submarine B-59, he was actually Commander of the flotilla of submarines including B-4, B-36, and B-130 and of equal rank to Captain Savitsky. Arkhipov eventually persuaded Savitsky to surface the submarine and await orders from Moscow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov

G_d Bless "await orders from Moscow" .........

That may have saved the world another time when a Russian general got drunk and ordered a nuclear launch........ His subordinates phoned Moscow.......... The General got shot instead of the missiles.......


Other Russians almost caused it......... The real Red October that the Glomar Challenger raised from the seabed.

There are people who want the Day of the Lord to come........ Woe to them........

But we better figure them into the equation of how likely Nuke War is.........

well, now others can turn your light on & off without you be able to do a thing .
The evidence is that the Russians on the real Red October were trying to bypass the safe guards on the nuke missiles and do a manual launch but a fire started and sunk the sub.........

That time the Rogue Russians lost the Game of Nuclear Russian Roulette........ And the world won..........

Want to bet that happens every time.........
You not dealing with fools
I am a Fool....

And what do you call insulting and threatening a nuke armed power with a Samson complex.......

Maybe fools dealing with fools...... :shock:
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Re: Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism)

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Mr. Perfect wrote: I talk to Joe everyday. Went weak kneed at the end of Bush, but no longer, in the mood for glass. Bolton, Romney appear to be in the mood. Just sayin.

Nobody will hit back.
Just so that I understand, we are talking about mass murder right?
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You menace me
The people you say
'Cause all the crime
Wake up motherfucker
And smell the slime
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Re: Fools dealing with Fools....

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monster_gardener wrote:.
Jnalum Persicum wrote:.

You not dealing with fools

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I am a Fool....

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Monster,

you hold you fools on leash, we hold ours on leash

tellin you, that Bozo Bolton gonno do somethin silly

and ?

yoy still votin for him (Romney)

you not holding your side of the bargain


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Gary Johnson for President..........

Post by monster_gardener »

Jnalum Persicum wrote:
monster_gardener wrote:.
Jnalum Persicum wrote:.

You not dealing with fools

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I am a Fool....

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Monster,

you hold you fools on leash, we hold ours on leash

tellin you, that Bozo Bolton gonno do somethin silly

and ?

yoy still votin for him (Romney)

you not holding your side of the bargain


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Thank You Very Much for your post, Azari.

you hold you fools on leash, we hold ours on leash
Not sure that is possible......

Very Hard to Fool Proof anything........ Fools are so clever ;) :roll:

And again... MISTAKES............
yoy still votin for him (Romney)

you not holding your side of the bargain

I'm voting for Gary Johnson, the Republican Libertarian Candidate.....

Voted for him in the primary too though I may have voted for Ron Paul... Similar but Johnson has executive experience and less baggage than Paul.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson

Voting for him because I think he is the best candidate and is an honest man with a good record as the executive of a State.

Voting for him because I want him to try again for the Republican nomination in 2016 if Obama wins this time...........

Voting for him even though I don't agree with him on everything and some things he is for may be against my interests and interests of my friends.

Likely that South Korea will be one......... Not right to abandon loyal friends to Hell and the Kim ILL Devils.........

May have to oppose him on somethings if he wins but he'll likely be the best person for the job that I know of.........
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Re: Wahhabism (pseudo Salafism)

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Hans Bulvai wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote: I talk to Joe everyday. Went weak kneed at the end of Bush, but no longer, in the mood for glass. Bolton, Romney appear to be in the mood. Just sayin.

Nobody will hit back.
Just so that I understand, we are talking about mass murder right?
Sounds like Mr. P is being whipped up by talk radio hosts.

It's dismaying how Republicans go on and on about the deficit and how broke we are, and in the next breath promise to increase military spending, and vow to turn nations into "glass." Real money saver, that.
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