Ibrahim wrote:.
Carbizene wrote:.
who are they then ?
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A mixture of people. Primarily former Armed Forces disgusted with the Assad regime's crackdown on dissent. Then there are urban and more educated pro-democracy protesters, and the more rural, less educated conservative Muslims (including some Islamists) who want democracy because they think its the best way to implement their program of social conservatism. But this latter group, while perhaps in some cases similar to Wahhabists, and not actually Wahhabists. The most extreme of them would bear more similarity to the Muslim Brotherhood.
But to label the entire group any kind of extremist is fraudulent, and to label them Wahhabist is also inaccurate.
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Islamist exist in all sector of society, in economy, in military
facts is
Saudi (wahhabi) and NATO (West) are arming the Islamist and some factions that are not happy with Assad policy of secularism and anti colonialism and Arab sovereignty
Military is doing all the fighting against the terrorist .. so, the military is in tact
Why are Brits, French, America, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE etc etc against Assad, arming the terrorists ? ?
Are French, Brits, America, Israel , Saudi, Qatar wishing democracy for Syrian people
Qatar, Saudi, UAE, Bahrain etc etc had never an election in their history and now are complaining Syria no democracy ? ?
Come on, Ibrahim
Middle Eastern people do not care about France, Brits, Israel, Qatar, Saudi and and and
but
what about Turkey ? ?
what example does Turkey want to set for ME people and what is for Turkey the model for " New Middle East" ?
Islamism, Wahhabism, like Saudi Arabia .. or Amirates like all those shithead Persian Golf monkey Amirs ? ?
Ibrahim,
Turkey was head of Islam, Khalifa, for 500 yrs
and ? ?
Islam died on Turkey's watch .. Christianity reformed to modernity when Sultans were genuflecting the Georgian & Armenians & Ukrainian girls in Harem .. demise of Arab Middle East (Ottoman subjects for 500 yrs) was by Turkish hand .. Turkey kept Arab speaking ME in dark ages .. where Arabs are today is directly because of Turkey .. not only that, you forgot episodes like Lebanese famine when Turks (retreating from Arabia) emptied the grain silos causing widespread hunger and death
That is a black mark on Turkey
but
Now
Turkey has to change to savior of Arab world .. to make things good again
NO
Turkey now siding with Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar, France, England, NATO
This will fail
not because of Iran
but because of Arab mass
Arabs do not want Wahhabi (Saudi) or neo'colonialism
Ibrahim , you on the losing side
Ibrahim
Turkey, because of 500 yrs of Ottoman, has a moral duty to lead, help, Arab world into modernity, reform and and and
Do Muslim Brotherhood, Saudi (Wahhabism), Qatar, UAE, Sarko, Brits want modernity for Arab speakers ? ?
Is new Libya (that Turkey was instrumental for it's creation) what Turkey is envisioning for Arab speaking world
Turkey want to ensure cheap Oil supply and European entry .. that is why Turkey is betraying Arabs and Middle East
Short term this might pay out for Turkey
but , down the road, this can lead to destruction of Turkey .. don't forget, Kamal Pasha definition of "Turkishness" still shaky .
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