Syria

[Endovelico]

Noddy, you fraud! That guy is no latino! He has blue eyes and is a typical Celt!...

[monster_gardener]

endo has advocated violence against germanics,anglo's and other northern europeans many times.

so this is patently unfair, he is completely unrascist in his dislike for anything but latino flavoured radical socialism that follows his brand of anarcho communist thinking.

Yeah! Man! We latinos are superior!...

then they move to australia

Thank You VERY Much for your post, noddy.

then they move to australia

Reminds me a bit of this funny film....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shrimp_on_the_Barbie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100608/

http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi163634 ... tt_pv_vi_1



Spoiler Alert: Magnify at your own risk.
Yes, the Shrimp does get the Barbie doll gal

[Endovelico]

Disillusionment Grows Among Syrian Opposition as Fighting Drags On
By ANNE BARNARD, MOHAMMAD GHANNAM and HWAIDA SAAD

DAMASCUS, Syria — In a terrace cafe within earshot of army artillery, a 28-year-old graduate student wept as she confessed that she had stopped planning antigovernment protests and delivering medical supplies to rebel-held towns.

Khaled, 33, a former protester who fled Damascus after being tortured and fired from his bank post, quit his job in Turkey with the exile opposition, disillusioned and saying that he wished the uprising “had never happened.”

In the Syrian city of Homs, a rebel fighter, Abu Firas, 30, recently put down the gun his wife had sold her jewelry to buy, disgusted with his commanders, who, he said, focus on enriching themselves. Now he finds himself trapped under government shelling, broke and hopeless.

“The ones who fight now are from the side of the regime or the side of the thieves,” he said in a recent interview via Skype. “I was stupid and naïve,” he added. “We were all stupid.”

Even as President Bashar al-Assad of Syria racks up modest battlefield victories, this may well be his greatest success to date: wearing down the resolve of some who were committed to his downfall. People have turned their backs on the opposition for many different reasons after two and a half years of fighting, some disillusioned with the growing power of Islamists among rebels, some complaining of corruption, others just exhausted with a conflict that shows no signs of abating.

But the net effect is the same, as some of the Syrians who risked their lives for the fight are effectively giving up, finding themselves in a kind of checkmate born of Mr. Assad’s shrewdness and their own failures — though none interviewed say they are willing to return to his fold.

Their numbers are impossible to measure, and there remain many who vow to keep struggling. Yet a range of Mr. Assad’s opponents, armed and unarmed, inside and outside Syria, tell of a common experience: When protests began, they thought they were witnessing the chance for a new life. They took risks they had never dreamed of taking. They lost jobs, houses, friends and relatives, suffered torture and hunger, saw their neighborhoods destroyed. It was all they could do, yet it was not enough.

What finally forced them to the sidelines, they say, were the disarray and division on their side, the government’s deft exploitation of their mistakes, and a growing sense that there is no happy ending in sight. Some said they came to believe that the war could be won only by those as violent and oppressive as Mr. Assad, or worse.

Such conclusions have been expressed by more and more people in recent months, in interviews in Damascus, the Syrian capital; Lebanon; and Turkey and via Skype across rebel-held areas in Syria. Many more fighters say they continue mainly because quitting would leave them feeling guilty toward other fighters.

“It’s undeniable that a lot of your early activists are disillusioned,” said Emile Hokayem, a Syria analyst at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, adding that in revolutions, it is often “your most constructive, positive people who are engaged early on who find themselves sidelined.”

Because such groups tend to be more vocal, he said, their changed views may be magnified beyond their numbers. Most are urbanites who had little understanding of the conservative poor whose mobilization is the backbone of the insurgency, he said. But their backing off has real impact, he said, especially on local governance, where they tended to be active.

Disillusioned activists say that early on, euphoric at being able to protest at all, they neglected to build bridges to fence-sitters, or did not know how. Homegrown fighters desperate for help welcomed foreign jihadists, and many grew more religious or sectarian in tone, alarming Mr. Assad’s supporters, dividing his opponents and frightening the West out of substantially supporting them.

With a ruthless foresight, following the playbook of his father and predecessor, Hafez al-Assad, Mr. Assad’s forces cracked down early and hard on the civilian, educated opposition, erasing the space where a middle ground could have emerged. They used heavy weaponry on rebel supporters to an extent that shocked even their foes, while pursuing a deliberate and increasingly successful strategy of persuading Syrians and the world that their opponents were a greater danger.

With the help of staunch allies, Mr. Assad’s government hung on through a war that has destroyed much of Syria and its economy, leaving millions hungry and homeless, and even critics wistful for better days.

“They changed the battle,” said the 28-year-old former activist in the Damascus cafe. “Now people are trying to survive more than they are fighting for their rights.”

She and her friends, she said, sometimes think “they are geniuses, this regime.”

She continued: “They worked from Day 1 to make it like this, and they succeeded. We were just fooled — going in the same direction they drew for us.”

Those still active say that as others drop out, their work becomes harder. One activist who still tries to deliver humanitarian supplies from Damascus to blockaded rebel-held areas expressed frustration that pharmacists and others who once helped her obtain baby formula now refuse, out of fear and despair. Another says that as young, motivated people flee the country, there are few to help with political organizing.

Mr. Assad has moved to capitalize on opponents’ despair, offering amnesties to rebels who lay down arms, even calling for army defectors to return to the government forces. But Abu Firas, the former fighter in Homs, laughed out loud at the idea of surrender.

“O.K., I will be on Addounia TV as a hero for the pro-regime people,” he said sarcastically, referring to state television, “while my people spit on the TV, calling me traitor and coward.”

“And the day after,” he added, “I will find myself in Saidnaya prison” — a government facility — “spending 31 years in the rule of a military court or court of terrorism.”

The 28-year-old Damascus activist said that if the government prevails, she will leave the country or face arrest. She believes the authorities know about her activities but have not arrested her “because I’m not doing anything that hurts them now.” But later, “they will remember,” she said. “They will take everybody.”

Each of the disaffected has a story of personal betrayal or disappointment. For the activist, it came when she realized there was “a difference in values” between her and some of the fellow protesters she had trusted, especially some who took up arms.

“They think that they are in the right and they have the authority to do anything they want,” she said. “They are fighting for Islam or their beliefs, maybe not any more to bring down Assad.”

Abu Firas, in Homs, said that at first he felt proud to carry his gun, even forgoing food or cigarettes during a government blockade. But things “went ugly,” he said, when some commanders made profitable deals with government soldiers, endangering fellow rebels.

“Selfishness and greed just came to the surface,” he said, adding that he tried to smooth out the problems, “but it didn’t work because you can’t think right when you are hungry.”

“I think these corrupted commanders do not want this war to end,” he said. “Did I say war, not revolution? Yes, unfortunately I did.”

Ammar, 21, stayed in his hometown, Qusayr, recording videos for the rebels through a blistering defeat, living on little food, fantasizing about chocolate. He had given up a comfortable life; he studied English literature and his family owned apricot orchards. When they fled to another rebel-held area, despite their sacrifices, they were kicked out of mosques and forced to sleep on streets.

“I reached a stage where I hated the revolution,” he said, visiting Beirut, where he obtained a visa to emigrate to Sweden. “I don’t want to be an activist any more. I want to be a football player. I want to eat a lot of chocolate.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/29/world ... world&_r=0

An interesting article on how stupid Syrian Islamists blew any chances there might have been of getting rid of Bashar al-Assad. Nothing to be surprised about. Islamists are as dumb as marxist-leninists in their obsession to impose their will on everybody else.

[Ibrahim]

Once Assad started shrieking "terrorists" is certainly scared Westerners away from any kind of early intervention (as in Libya) that might have limited his ability to stage reprisals on the rebel population centers.

Also the article is mostly about corruption and profiteering among the rebel movement, not coercion by "Islamists."



The last danger-point for Assad was his use of chemical weapons on civilians. But he survived that and is probably in the clear now. Or "clear" by his standards, where he will be murdering civilians steadily for the rest of his life but not really in danger of having to flee the country.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Once Assad started shrieking "terrorists" is certainly scared Westerners away from any kind of early intervention (as in Libya) that might have limited his ability to stage reprisals on the rebel population centers.

Also the article is mostly about corruption and profiteering among the rebel movement, not coercion by "Islamists."

The last danger-point for Assad was his use of chemical weapons on civilians. But he survived that and is probably in the clear now. Or "clear" by his standards, where he will be murdering civilians steadily for the rest of his life but not really in danger of having to flee the country.

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Turkey realised past policy versus Syria was wrong .. and .. now correcting


Iran, and Assad, always said, Syrian people must decide and not Al Saud or Cameron or Hollande

and that is what's going to happen

If Turkey and other had listened to Iran from the beginning, lots of blood would have been saved

better late than never

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[Ibrahim]

Once Assad started shrieking "terrorists" is certainly scared Westerners away from any kind of early intervention (as in Libya) that might have limited his ability to stage reprisals on the rebel population centers.

Also the article is mostly about corruption and profiteering among the rebel movement, not coercion by "Islamists."

The last danger-point for Assad was his use of chemical weapons on civilians. But he survived that and is probably in the clear now. Or "clear" by his standards, where he will be murdering civilians steadily for the rest of his life but not really in danger of having to flee the country.

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Turkey realised past policy versus Syria was wrong .. and .. now correcting


Iran, and Assad, always said, Syrian people must decide and not Al Saud or Cameron or Hollande

and that is what's going to happen

If Turkey and other had listened to Iran from the beginning, lots of blood would have been saved

better late than never

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Turkey supported the removal of Assad from the outset, and backed the rebels short of direct military aid. Now Turkey is backing a ceasefire due to the unlikelihood of a rebel victory and to limit further bloodshed. Iran backed Assad from the start for political reasons. The two countries had contrary policies, and the flaw in Turkish policy was not backing the rebels more fully early on, though clearly they declined partly out of concern over Kurdish nationalism.

Iran and Russia were deeply, morally wrong re: Syria from the outset. The rest of the world, Turkey included, is now just come around to a sad reality after dithering. Nobody looks good here.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Once Assad started shrieking "terrorists" is certainly scared Westerners away from any kind of early intervention (as in Libya) that might have limited his ability to stage reprisals on the rebel population centers.

Also the article is mostly about corruption and profiteering among the rebel movement, not coercion by "Islamists."

The last danger-point for Assad was his use of chemical weapons on civilians. But he survived that and is probably in the clear now. Or "clear" by his standards, where he will be murdering civilians steadily for the rest of his life but not really in danger of having to flee the country.

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Turkey realised past policy versus Syria was wrong .. and .. now correcting


Iran, and Assad, always said, Syrian people must decide and not Al Saud or Cameron or Hollande

and that is what's going to happen

If Turkey and other had listened to Iran from the beginning, lots of blood would have been saved

better late than never

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Turkey supported the removal of Assad from the outset, and backed the rebels short of direct military aid. Now Turkey is backing a ceasefire due to the unlikelihood of a rebel victory and to limit further bloodshed. Iran backed Assad from the start for political reasons. The two countries had contrary policies, and the flaw in Turkish policy was not backing the rebels more fully early on, though clearly they declined partly out of concern over Kurdish nationalism.

Iran and Russia were deeply, morally wrong re: Syria from the outset. The rest of the world, Turkey included, is now just come around to a sad reality after dithering. Nobody looks good here.

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Iran, from the beginning, said, Syrian people must decide whether they want Assad or not, AND, still saying same thing

when, as you correctly say, Turkey, Brits, French, Al Saud, Kuwait, Qatar said Assad had to go, Iran said, again, Syrian people must decide

If, Assad had not overwhelming Syrian masses support, if Assad did not have that, he would have lost and gone long long ago

In that sense, now, West, Turkey, Saudi, Qatar and and came to conclusion Syrian people standing behind Assad, they realized that, otherwise Assad could not have defeated the Takfiri

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[Ibrahim]

"Syrians" didn't decide anything. There is an ongoing civil war that one side is losing because the other side has more advanced weapons. Its not any other nations responsibility to intervene, but in terms of rooting for the known mass-murdering dictator from the start there is really no excuse. The only people I've seen back Assad are overt racists who just like the idea of as many Arabs/Muslims dying as possible, and the Iranian and Russian regimes which have their own interests and investments in Assad and making sure he stays in power no matter how many people he kills. You always defend Iranian government policy so you defend Assad.

[Endovelico]

"Syrians" didn't decide anything. There is an ongoing civil war that one side is losing because the other side has more advanced weapons. Its not any other nations responsibility to intervene, but in terms of rooting for the known mass-murdering dictator from the start there is really no excuse. The only people I've seen back Assad are overt racists who just like the idea of as many Arabs/Muslims dying as possible, and the Iranian and Russian regimes which have their own interests and investments in Assad and making sure he stays in power no matter how many people he kills. You always defend Iranian government policy so you defend Assad.

I had last year an anti-Assad Syrian student who confessed to me that before the present civil war Syria was a pretty peaceful country where nobody cared to which faith or sect other people belonged. Business was brisk and opportunities were plenty. He didn't like Assad's authoritarian regime but he had no further complaints. Does anyone really think that if Islamists were to win this war things would be as peaceful and the regime would be as tolerant? In no time Sunni fundamentalists would be killing Shia Muslims, as well as Christians, women would be forced to cover their heads in public and would be pushed back into their homes, with little chance to work as liberal professionals. No wonder so many Syrians prefer the devil they know...

[Heracleum Persicum]

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"Syrians" didn't decide anything. There is an ongoing civil war that one side is losing because the other side has more advanced weapons. Its not any other nations responsibility to intervene, but in terms of rooting for the known mass-murdering dictator from the start there is really no excuse. The only people I've seen back Assad are overt racists who just like the idea of as many Arabs/Muslims dying as possible, and the Iranian and Russian regimes which have their own interests and investments in Assad and making sure he stays in power no matter how many people he kills. You always defend Iranian government policy so you defend Assad.

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Point not Assad liberal democrat, freedom loving

Point is, how a power change should have taken place

Iranian government, and Azari view, is, the opposition should have grouped and challenged Assad in a peaceful, maybe civil disobedience way, if the opposition had the numbers, which they did not have

That is what happened in Iran

In Iran, all institutions, banks, oil industry, post office, phone, electricity, municipality, public transport and and and, all went into a general strike .. country stopped totally .. only institution that was not on strike was military .. Shah had no other choice than to bend to popular demand .. but, Khomeini only could do that because he had the "numbers" .. the "Green" in Iran, your darlings, did not have the "numbers", that is why the western "conspiracy" did not succeed, mad mullahs had the "numbers", again.

As Endo correctly says, in this day and age, destroying a country wanting to change not the way anymore

and

who are the opposition fighting ? ?

Mostly "Al Qaida" terrorists

Now, west and Turkey have realized this, and, agree with Iran that Syrians themselves must decide what next


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[Alexis]

Situation on the ground as of October 26th, 2013.
A bit old, but I find it a useful reminder.

[Ibrahim]

"Syrians" didn't decide anything. There is an ongoing civil war that one side is losing because the other side has more advanced weapons. Its not any other nations responsibility to intervene, but in terms of rooting for the known mass-murdering dictator from the start there is really no excuse. The only people I've seen back Assad are overt racists who just like the idea of as many Arabs/Muslims dying as possible, and the Iranian and Russian regimes which have their own interests and investments in Assad and making sure he stays in power no matter how many people he kills. You always defend Iranian government policy so you defend Assad.

I had last year an anti-Assad Syrian student who confessed to me that before the present civil war Syria was a pretty peaceful country where nobody cared to which faith or sect other people belonged. Business was brisk and opportunities were plenty. He didn't like Assad's authoritarian regime but he had no further complaints. Does anyone really think that if Islamists were to win this war things would be as peaceful and the regime would be as tolerant? In no time Sunni fundamentalists would be killing Shia Muslims, as well as Christians, women would be forced to cover their heads in public and would be pushed back into their homes, with little chance to work as liberal professionals. No wonder so many Syrians prefer the devil they know...

I'm not interested in your alleged anecdotal encounters that confirm your bias against "Islamists" and belief that murdering them is acceptable. Moreover, its ridiculous to characterize this conflict as taking place between to factions of "Assad" and "Islamists," or even that there are two factions.

Not to mention that your simplistic hypothetical scenario warns of "Islamists" committing mass murder, which is exactly what the Assad regime has already done and is continuing to do. Apparently in your world hypothetical mass murder by "Islamists" is worse than known mass murder by a fascist dictator. What a surprise.

[Endovelico]

Not to mention that your simplistic hypothetical scenario warns of "Islamists" committing mass murder, which is exactly what the Assad regime has already done and is continuing to do. Apparently in your world hypothetical mass murder by "Islamists" is worse than known mass murder by a fascist dictator. What a surprise.

Systematic violation of human rights it's what Islamists have been seen to do, everywhere where they have come to power. Assad doesn't tolerate political dissent but leaves in peace all those who do not contest his power. People of all faiths are left in peace, women's rights are generally respected, people are free to work and to live as they wish, without stupid religious rules being imposed on them by the state. A more democratic Syria would be desirable, but unfortunately Islamists tend to highjack democracy and use its rules to impose their religious fantasies on others. Between a secular and a religious dictatorship, I would tend to prefer the former...

[Heracleum Persicum]

Not to mention that your simplistic hypothetical scenario warns of "Islamists" committing mass murder, which is exactly what the Assad regime has already done and is continuing to do. Apparently in your world hypothetical mass murder by "Islamists" is worse than known mass murder by a fascist dictator. What a surprise.

Systematic violation of human rights it's what Islamists have been seen to do, everywhere where they have come to power. Assad doesn't tolerate political dissent but leaves in peace all those who do not contest his power. People of all faiths are left in peace, women's rights are generally respected, people are free to work and to live as they wish, without stupid religious rules being imposed on them by the state. A more democratic Syria would be desirable, but unfortunately Islamists tend to highjack democracy and use its rules to impose their religious fantasies on others. Between a secular and a religious dictatorship, I would tend to prefer the former..

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Bravo, Endo, Bravo


seconded


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[Ibrahim]

Not to mention that your simplistic hypothetical scenario warns of "Islamists" committing mass murder, which is exactly what the Assad regime has already done and is continuing to do. Apparently in your world hypothetical mass murder by "Islamists" is worse than known mass murder by a fascist dictator. What a surprise.

Systematic violation of human rights it's what Islamists have been seen to do, everywhere where they have come to power.

As opposed to fascist dictators who are known to have murdered and tortured civilians. You back the dictator.

Assad doesn't tolerate political dissent but leaves in peace all those who do not contest his power.

So as long as you don't get tortured of murdered by the government for openly disagreeing with it or proposing democracy. You back the government.

People of all faiths are left in peace, women's rights are generally respected, people are free to work and to live as they wish,

Not so. People of all faiths are jailed and tortured, and women are raped, if they or members of their family challenge the regime. People are free to suck it up and take it and not complain or else they get the same. You back the regime.

without stupid religious rules being imposed on them by the state.

Examples? Better yet, examples that are worse than having your family tortured in front of your by regime thugs because you were critical of Assad? You back Assad.

A more democratic Syria would be desirable, but unfortunately Islamists tend to highjack democracy and use its rules to impose their religious fantasies on others. Between a secular and a religious dictatorship, I would tend to prefer the former...

What evidence do you have that all the people you consign to torture and death are actually "Islamists?" Secular Syrian democrats are being slaughtered and tortured along with any "Islamists" but that doesn't seem to interest you.






I'm not sure I believe you anymore, Endo. I think you're bitter about previous exchanges and this forum has sunk so low in terms of readability that you're just saying the dumbest, worst things you can think of to try and get a rise out of me.

[Nonc Hilaire]

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 2013

Maaloula Update: 12 Nuns Kidnapped, Orphans Safe, Monastery Desecrated

Church Sources to an-Nahar: For Jabhat al-Nusra, Everything and Everyone in Maaloula is Fair Game
Church sources in Damascus have indicated to an-Nahar that the nuns of the Monastery of Maaloula were kidnapped by Jabhat al-Nusra, which includes armed groups from Chechnya and various Arab nationalities. Sources stated that the number of kidnapping victims is rising, since it now includes the nuns of Maaloula, in addition to the metropolitans of Aleppo, Boulos Yazigi and Youhanna Ibrahim, and two priests.

The sources said, "The Monastery of Maaloula is mostly made up of Syrian nuns, while a few of them are Lebanese." They stated that "The Monastery of Saint Thekla has been subject to vandalism and desecration: icons and statues there were attacked and the monastery's paten, given by the Russian [Imperial Palestinian Orthodox] Society was vilely desecrated." This confirms information provided by the Vatican yesterday about the kidnapping of 12 Orthodox nuns from the monastery by Jabhat al-Nusra. Sources stressed that "al-Nusra has declared everything in Maaloula to be fair game."

As for the fate of the orphans who live with the monastery's nuns in its orphanage, sources mentioned that the army of the Syrian regime, during its initial withdrawal from Maaloula, was careful to evacuate the orphanage and provide safety to those in it. Under intense fire from snipers and anti-tank rockets, a military truck transported the orphans-- 6 boys and 15 girls-- to Damascus.

http://araborthodoxy.blogspot.com/2013/ ... apped.html

[Endovelico]

I'm not sure I believe you anymore, Endo. I think you're bitter about previous exchanges and this forum has sunk so low in terms of readability that you're just saying the dumbest, worst things you can think of to try and get a rise out of me.

You seem to have difficulty understanding what you read, therefore your comments tend to ignore the actual meaning of what you are commenting on. I'm sure that is a sign of some disease... Is it dyslexia, or is it something else with a difficult to remember name?...

If it isn't a disease, maybe the following advice, meant for students with difficulty understanding what they read, will help you:

- Make sure that students understand why they are reading the text and what they will have to do afterwards. Students often believe they need to understand every word of a text, whereas in many cases they can fulfill the task requirements by scanning or skimming through the passage. Having a clear reading purpose helps them to focus more efficiently on the information they need to extract.

- Ensure that students have the necessary background information before they are asked to read long texts. It is most important that they have a chance to focus on the topic and activate their existing knowledge of it before being confronted with the text. This often provides the opportunity to pre-teach essential vocabulary contained in the text

- Encourage students to read up about the topic beforehand, or discuss it at home with their parents, in their own language

- Have students predict the information they will find out in the text

- Ask students to write questions that they would like to have answered by the text

- Introduce some key vocabulary from the text

- Have students predict the vocabulary they will meet in the text

- Remind students of the importance of looking at headings, diagrams, and illustrations and their captions

- Tell students to note parts of the text that they could make no sense of. (They can later ask you or another student to explain it to them.)

[Ibrahim]

I'm not sure I believe you anymore, Endo. I think you're bitter about previous exchanges and this forum has sunk so low in terms of readability that you're just saying the dumbest, worst things you can think of to try and get a rise out of me.

You seem to have difficulty understanding what you read, therefore your comments tend to ignore the actual meaning of what you are commenting on.

No, you seem to make the most stupid statements possible, then worm away from them a little bit when its pointed out how stupid or false they are.

But as I said I think this is intentional. You're just trolling now, and claiming that I have a "disease" because I picked apart your half-assed support for dictators and mass murderers is part of that. You're just trying to say the most stupid/disgusting things you can think of in order to get attention because there is nothing else to do on this forum anymore.

[Doc]

I'm not sure I believe you anymore, Endo. I think you're bitter about previous exchanges and this forum has sunk so low in terms of readability that you're just saying the dumbest, worst things you can think of to try and get a rise out of me.

You seem to have difficulty understanding what you read, therefore your comments tend to ignore the actual meaning of what you are commenting on.

No, you seem to make the most stupid statements possible, then worm away from them a little bit when its pointed out how stupid or false they are.

But as I said I think this is intentional. You're just trolling now, and claiming that I have a "disease" because I picked apart your half-assed support for dictators and mass murderers is part of that. You're just trying to say the most stupid/disgusting things you can think of in order to get attention because there is nothing else to do on this forum anymore.

[Endovelico]

No, you seem to make the most stupid statements possible, then worm away from them a little bit when its pointed out how stupid or false they are.

But as I said I think this is intentional. You're just trolling now, and claiming that I have a "disease" because I picked apart your half-assed support for dictators and mass murderers is part of that. You're just trying to say the most stupid/disgusting things you can think of in order to get attention because there is nothing else to do on this forum anymore.

Don't you get tired of yourself?...

[Endovelico]

Secular Syria Rebels Mull Rejoining Gov't to Fight Al-Qaeda

TEHRAN (FNA)- Free Syrian Army (FSA) commander Gen. Salim Idris announced he is dropping the demand for President Bashar Assad to resign before the Geneva II peace conference looming on January 22.

He said that he’s content with talks toward an eventual transition at the end of the negotiation process, Antiwar.com reported Wednesday.

That may not sound like much on the surface, but it points to what officials say is a significant shift in the secularist rebel perspective, as they consider merging with the Assad government to end their mutual fighting and instead focus on the war against al-Qaeda and the rest of the Wahhabi extremist militants.

Gen. Idris addressed the prospect very directly in his comments, saying that the growing FSA fighting with Al-Qaeda has left them fighting a war on two different fronts. As foreign Wahhabi extremists continue to flock to Al-Qaeda factions like Jabhat al-Nusra, that’s a problem that’s only going to get worse, as some 5,500 foreign fighters in Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) alone look to dominate the rebel-controlled Northwest.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0914000625

This will be beyond understanding for Ibrahim...

[Doc]

Secular Syria Rebels Mull Rejoining Gov't to Fight Al-Qaeda

TEHRAN (FNA)- Free Syrian Army (FSA) commander Gen. Salim Idris announced he is dropping the demand for President Bashar Assad to resign before the Geneva II peace conference looming on January 22.

He said that he’s content with talks toward an eventual transition at the end of the negotiation process, Antiwar.com reported Wednesday.

That may not sound like much on the surface, but it points to what officials say is a significant shift in the secularist rebel perspective, as they consider merging with the Assad government to end their mutual fighting and instead focus on the war against al-Qaeda and the rest of the Wahhabi extremist militants.

Gen. Idris addressed the prospect very directly in his comments, saying that the growing FSA fighting with Al-Qaeda has left them fighting a war on two different fronts. As foreign Wahhabi extremists continue to flock to Al-Qaeda factions like Jabhat al-Nusra, that’s a problem that’s only going to get worse, as some 5,500 foreign fighters in Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) alone look to dominate the rebel-controlled Northwest.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0914000625

This will be beyond understanding for Ibrahim...

Its not the end of the world Just the end of Al Qaeda Syria. Another killing field for Al Qaeda. I hope they all die.

And Suadi Arabia better make a deal with Israel soon before Israel makes a deal with Iran instead.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Secular Syria Rebels Mull Rejoining Gov't to Fight Al-Qaeda

TEHRAN (FNA)- Free Syrian Army (FSA) commander Gen. Salim Idris announced he is dropping the demand for President Bashar Assad to resign before the Geneva II peace conference looming on January 22.

He said that he’s content with talks toward an eventual transition at the end of the negotiation process, Antiwar.com reported Wednesday.

That may not sound like much on the surface, but it points to what officials say is a significant shift in the secularist rebel perspective, as they consider merging with the Assad government to end their mutual fighting and instead focus on the war against al-Qaeda and the rest of the Wahhabi extremist militants.

Gen. Idris addressed the prospect very directly in his comments, saying that the growing FSA fighting with Al-Qaeda has left them fighting a war on two different fronts. As foreign Wahhabi extremists continue to flock to Al-Qaeda factions like Jabhat al-Nusra, that’s a problem that’s only going to get worse, as some 5,500 foreign fighters in Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) alone look to dominate the rebel-controlled Northwest.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0914000625

This will be beyond understanding for Ibrahim...

Its not the end of the world Just the end of Al Qaeda Syria. Another killing field for Al Qaeda. I hope they all die.

And Suadi Arabia better make a deal with Israel soon before Israel makes a deal with Iran instead.


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Can't stop laughing

Noblesse oblige .. will clean the barn

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[Ibrahim]

Secular Syria Rebels Mull Rejoining Gov't to Fight Al-Qaeda

TEHRAN (FNA)- Free Syrian Army (FSA) commander Gen. Salim Idris announced he is dropping the demand for President Bashar Assad to resign before the Geneva II peace conference looming on January 22.

He said that he’s content with talks toward an eventual transition at the end of the negotiation process, Antiwar.com reported Wednesday.

That may not sound like much on the surface, but it points to what officials say is a significant shift in the secularist rebel perspective, as they consider merging with the Assad government to end their mutual fighting and instead focus on the war against al-Qaeda and the rest of the Wahhabi extremist militants.

Gen. Idris addressed the prospect very directly in his comments, saying that the growing FSA fighting with Al-Qaeda has left them fighting a war on two different fronts. As foreign Wahhabi extremists continue to flock to Al-Qaeda factions like Jabhat al-Nusra, that’s a problem that’s only going to get worse, as some 5,500 foreign fighters in Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) alone look to dominate the rebel-controlled Northwest.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0914000625

This will be beyond understanding for Ibrahim...

I've always understood that there is a multitude of shifting groups and allegiances in Syria. You were the one promoting a Benevolent Assad vs Evil "Islamists" fantasy.




Now, would Fars news agency have any reason to promote this story/version of events?

The Fars News Agency (FNA) is a news agency in Iran.

While it describes itself as "Iran's leading independent news agency",[1] news organizations such as CNN[2] and Reuters[3] describe it as a "semi-official" news agency with ties to the government. The Wall Street Journal has stated the agency is affiliated with the Revolutionary Guard Corps.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_News_Agency

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[Ibrahim]

No, you seem to make the most stupid statements possible, then worm away from them a little bit when its pointed out how stupid or false they are.

But as I said I think this is intentional. You're just trolling now, and claiming that I have a "disease" because I picked apart your half-assed support for dictators and mass murderers is part of that. You're just trying to say the most stupid/disgusting things you can think of in order to get attention because there is nothing else to do on this forum anymore.

Don't you get tired of yourself?...

Don't you get tired about being on the wrong side of every conflict, and supporting murder and fascism in every thread involving non-Europeans? I think you make a point of it, for fun.