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Firearms and other Weapons

Postby Antipatros » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:09 pm

Dragon 50cal Explosive Ammo!

Dragon M-50 Manufactured by Central Wisconsin Armory, designed by Ed Haywood.
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Postby Antipatros » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:47 pm

Challenger 2 MBT Tank Promotional Video
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Postby Antipatros » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:48 pm

Dillon Aero M134 Highlights video


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Postby Antipatros » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:22 pm

A rudimentary nuclear blast simulator -- select a target and weapon yield:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
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Postby Demon of Undoing » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:07 am

Was just telling a friend on the high llano that the Glock and the AR15 are the Peacemaker and Winchester lever action repeater for the 21st century. Guns everywhere, just like the frontier. And just like the frontier, with the exception of the crime of passion and the occasional gang issue ( I guess Injuns were modified gangs?), it's fairly damn peaceful. Homicide rates from the days of Ward Cleaver, never been easier to get high quality/ capability infantry rifle or offensive pistol. Concealed carry in >39 states. Castle doctrine in ten. In Florida, one better; you can stand sentinel and match force with force anywhere you have the law on your side, damn a duty to retreat.

Hmmm.
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Postby Antipatros » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:37 pm

Even without firearms -- in the right hands and used correctly:

Cold Steel Gurkha Kukri


Gurkha soldiers put on a Kukri knife display


Bowie vs Kukri


Himalayan Imports Kukri Review (15" BAS)

(I own this model myself and recommend it highly.)
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Postby Demon of Undoing » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:09 pm

My quasi- hand made one went more South American than Ghurka, but it's all good. Definitely the best field blade.A Bowie thrusts better, if that matters.

Interesting Ghurka drill, never watched them work their blade. Basic movements are more in line with the use of a falcata ( from which the Khukri descends via Alexander, or so the story goes) or a falchion. Much different from any other knife- length regional form I've seen ( with the exception of tantojutsu types, and that ain't exactly regional to Nepal).

Thanks for this.
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Postby Antipatros » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:16 pm

My pleasure.

Composition and mechanical properties of the 5160 steel used in Mercedes leaf springs, and thus in the Himalayan Imports British Army service model:

Alloy Steel AISI 5160

P.S. The best thing for a water buffalo horn handle is the natural oil on your skin. If you don't touch it regularly, rub it down with a good hoof moisture spray that contains lanolin.
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Postby Antipatros » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:04 pm

PBS NOVA - Secrets of the Samurai Sword
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Postby Demon of Undoing » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:50 am

I'm going to watch that in it's entirety tomorrow. May take six hours, but I'm going to do it. Thanks again.

Just getting started learning the tao of the light rifle, so I'm no Annie Oakley.

But I think this is some pretty seriously good shooting.



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Postby AzariLoveIran » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:13 pm

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"Part of it is being ready for cataclysm every day,"


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"And to be honest, I started carrying precisely to protect not just myself, but my family, and anyone around me who needs help."
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How can anybody feel safe when people carry gun in all places

America dangerous place 2B

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Postby Demon of Undoing » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:25 pm

Legally armed Americans shoot more bad guys with less mistaken shoots than the police do. You are safer with armed civilians in America than with police, and yet the police are the only ones some want to arm. Why is that?
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Postby Sparky » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Demon of Undoing wrote:Legally armed Americans shoot more bad guys with less mistaken shoots than the police do. You are safer with armed civilians in America than with police, and yet the police are the only ones some want to arm. Why is that?

By way of comparison, how many people do the (illegally?) armed bad guys shoot?
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Postby Demon of Undoing » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:37 pm

Depends. Are we talking competitors in organized crime, or straight up, stranger- on- stranger violence? Because when you correct for that, per capita violence is comparable to many Euro nations.

Bad timing as I have a trip coming up tomorrow, but I'll see if I can't get some links going. Incidentally, it is not my contention that the presence of firearms makes everybody safer. That is a very hard thing to prove. My contention is that, even with the proliferation of semiautomatics Glock 47s with the shoulder thing that goes up, and $150 pistols that are more easily concealed and more lethal than any Saturday Night Special of old, violence is statistically low. IOW, gun presence doesnt seem to matter, at worst.
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Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:41 am

America is very dangerous. I recommend that many people do not come here.

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Postby Typhoon » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:27 pm

Antipatros wrote:PBS NOVA - Secrets of the Samurai Sword


Thanks for the post. Was not aware of this very good presentation.
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Postby Antipatros » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:23 pm

Typhoon wrote:
Antipatros wrote:PBS NOVA - Secrets of the Samurai Sword


Thanks for the post. Was not aware of this very good presentation.

My pleasure. It's a personal favourite.
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Postby Antipatros » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:35 pm

Tactical Impact .338 LM

Desert Tactical SRS and C14 PGW Timberwolf
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Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:09 pm

Larry Vickers. :) An unintentionally funny version of Chris Farley.

I don't think they were even 1 moa (10 inches at 1000 yards) although both guns are .5 moa capable. Although wind, casual shooters are always going to struggle there.
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Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:13 am

Be still my heart. Pure FAL porn.

Yummy! Love that DS Arms. Sorry for the Vickers.

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Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:22 am

Take note in that video. At 41 sec there is an A/B test of the FAL next to an AR, and with the short barrel (11"?) FAL he can keep up with the AR. So much for the rate of fire/recoil recovery argument. Of course the FAL loses a lot at long ranges with a barrel that short, but this is supposed to be a CQB configuration.

Also, note that the FAL has more comb drop than the cursed AR buffer tube system (for laymen, the stock of the AR is directly in line with the barrel while the FAL is lower) which means a more natural shooting position for your head (less scrunched down).

Love that FAL.
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Postby Sparky » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:56 pm

Demon of Undoing wrote:Depends. Are we talking competitors in organized crime, or straight up, stranger- on- stranger violence? Because when you correct for that, per capita violence is comparable to many Euro nations.

Bad timing as I have a trip coming up tomorrow, but I'll see if I can't get some links going. Incidentally, it is not my contention that the presence of firearms makes everybody safer. That is a very hard thing to prove. My contention is that, even with the proliferation of semiautomatics Glock 47s with the shoulder thing that goes up, and $150 pistols that are more easily concealed and more lethal than any Saturday Night Special of old, violence is statistically low. IOW, gun presence doesnt seem to matter, at worst.

Just all bad guys, really. I was just wondering if the sharpshooter league table went:

1/ Baddies
2/ Plain old folks
3/ Cops

or

1/ Plain old folks
2/ Baddies
3/ Cops

or

1/ Plain old folks
2/ Cops
3/ Baddies

Mr. Perfect wrote:America is very dangerous. I recommend that many people do not come here.

:)

:) Thanks for the warning, Danger Mouse. I'll bear that in mind.
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Postby Antipatros » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:51 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:Be still my heart. Pure FAL porn.

Yummy! Love that DS Arms. Sorry for the Vickers.


I may be entirely alone in this, but I never liked the FAL. I always called it "that Belgian POS" (albeit manufactured under licence and improved in Canada).
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Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:18 pm

No concern, I am also in the minority in my opposition to the AR. I have grudgingly come to accept a role for the 223/light rifle, but the AR is never going to do it for me.
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Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:49 pm

So I had an epiphany recently in the old 9 vs 45 debate.

I come down squarely in the .40 S&W camp, and tbh based on off the box data, the 40, 357 sig and 357 magnum are the only calibers I would even consider for personal defense. If you gave me something else I would use it if I had to/no other choice, but as far as laying cash on the barrelhead or what is my first choice the other three earn my money. Now, this is not meant to be disparaging to the other rounds or insult any enthusiasts, we just all have to come down somewhere.

Having said that (I like to give my biases upfront) there is a new element to this debate that I recently came across.

The 45 community is still very sore about the transition to 9mm among the US military a couple of decades ago, and arguably if not for that switch the 9 would never have really gained a seat at the table. This is implied anyway. And of course caliber selection for general issue is of course top down one size fits all policy designed to last for decades, maybe half a century at a time.

So the history of US military and the debate between calibers I think is actually skewed by the inflexibility of the policy. IE real world feedback will not be responded to any time soon.

So lab/chrono results are one thing, but real life street results and considerations are quite another. And the US military is not a barometer for that. Which is a real shame if you think about it, what a huge testing lab that could be.

So who is? Where could we go to get real world feedback on the many considerations of caliber selection?

Cops!

PDs, hundreds maybe thousands of them, can all make their decisions independently and responsively whenever they feel like it.

I was watching Michael Baine the other night and he said the overwhelming choice of US PDs was the 40 cal.

Without going any further, if you think about it, that is something to think about. ;)

* I could not verify the claim with quick searches so consider the source but it does square with information I've come across before. What would be interesting is to follow the PD trends if such data were available. I mean when was the last time you heard of police issuing a 45? I don't mean that as a put down, but it's a pretty interesting thing.
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