Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

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Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Alexis » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:34 pm

I'm wondering about the fact that within "Current events" are only 2 sub-fora, one about "American" other about "Muslim / ME" topics.

Speaking about World affairs, shouldn't one be equally interested in each of the World's major regions. :)
- USA obviously deserve their own subforum (or maybe even better "Northern America", with Canada & Mexico)
- Middle-East also deserves a subforum
:arrow: But what about Far East: China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam... are they countries of no significance? :shock:
:arrow: What about Europe & Russia?
:arrow: What about South Asia?
:arrow: South America?
:arrow: Africa?

We presently have long & bulky & unconvenient threads for "Europe", "China", "Japan" & such:
- No way to get a distinct topic discussed seriously at different points in time. How e.g. can one follow through such distinct topics as European sovereign debt crisis / European demographics / Innovation in Europe / European militaries / Russian politics / British relation to the EU / and so on and so forth... when they are all mixed up in a single monstrous size thread? :shock: Same argument for East Asian topics, and all other World's regions
- Focus is put on two regions which obviously are important... but at the expense of all others: the very fact that those two sub-fora exist make us discuss more what is of concern to these two regions. Why? Are Far East, or Europe, less important? And others?

I see existence of these two sub-fora as a distant consequence of 9/11 and recent US wars: these have put the focus on America and the Middle East, yes.
:!: However, is it not time to move on?
Is our time revolving, will the whole darn 21st century revolve entirely around America & Middle-East?

My suggestion is to keep the two existing sub-fora. However:
1. Change name of the American subforum to "Northern America"
Move there Canada and Mexico threads
2. Clarify name of other subforum to "Middle-East"
This subforum should be about a region of the World. Muslim is the name of a religion, not a region. Neither Indonesians nor Moroccans are Middle-Easterners
3. Add "Far East" subforum
Move there the threads about China, Japan, etc.
4. Add "Europe / Russia" subforum
All European and Russian threads goes there
As a side remark, in its former acception, the word "Europe" was understood to include Russia, which has 3/4 of its population west to the Urals. The usage changed during the Cold War... but Cold War has been over for 20 years. :mrgreen:
5. Add "South Asia" subforum
This one is debatable, but I don't think it fair to lump together more than half of humankind, countries as diverse as India, Japan, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Taiwan or Burma, and attribute them one single subforum. So I don't recommend having one single "Asia" subforum.
South Asia would include all countries from Pakistan & Afghanistan to Burma. Extend it to Central Asia up north till Kazakhstan
6. Add "Africa" subforum
Egypt would be in Middle East, as an exception. Morocco and all the other White African countries would be in "Africa"
7. Add "South America" subforum
Not including Mexico obviously

The "Current events" folder would be devoted only to global topics / or transverse topics not particular to a single part of the World.
We could get topics followed through.
We would be inclined to develop more discussions about parts of the World just as important than USA or Middle-East

In a word, reflect Multi-Polarity in the structure of the forum itself

:?: What do you think?
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby YMix » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:57 pm

I see existence of these two sub-fora as a distant consequence of 9/11 and recent US wars: these have put the focus on America and the Middle East, yes.


Actually, the two sub-fora are the result of Mr. Perfect and Azari Sativus Loves Crocus Persicum. In order to prevent the Current Events forum from being overrun with "Democrats are evil!" and "Islam rules, Persians are best!" threads, Typhoon decided to continue Tinker's system and give these prolific posters two sub-fora.
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Crocus sativus » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:19 pm

Alexis wrote:I'm wondering about the fact that within "Current events" are only 2 sub-fora, one about "American" other about "Muslim / ME" topics.

Speaking about World affairs, shouldn't one be equally interested in each of the World's major regions. :)
- USA obviously deserve their own subforum (or maybe even better "Northern America", with Canada & Mexico)
- Middle-East also deserves a subforum
:arrow: But what about Far East: China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam... are they countries of no significance? :shock:
:arrow: What about Europe & Russia?
:arrow: What about South Asia?
:arrow: South America?
:arrow: Africa?

We presently have long & bulky & unconvenient threads for "Europe", "China", "Japan" & such:
- No way to get a distinct topic discussed seriously at different points in time. How e.g. can one follow through such distinct topics as European sovereign debt crisis / European demographics / Innovation in Europe / European militaries / Russian politics / British relation to the EU / and so on and so forth... when they are all mixed up in a single monstrous size thread? :shock: Same argument for East Asian topics, and all other World's regions
- Focus is put on two regions which obviously are important... but at the expense of all others: the very fact that those two sub-fora exist make us discuss more what is of concern to these two regions. Why? Are Far East, or Europe, less important? And others?

I see existence of these two sub-fora as a distant consequence of 9/11 and recent US wars: these have put the focus on America and the Middle East, yes.
:!: However, is it not time to move on?
Is our time revolving, will the whole darn 21st century revolve entirely around America & Middle-East?

My suggestion is to keep the two existing sub-fora. However:
1. Change name of the American subforum to "Northern America"
Move there Canada and Mexico threads
2. Clarify name of other subforum to "Middle-East"
This subforum should be about a region of the World. Muslim is the name of a religion, not a region. Neither Indonesians nor Moroccans are Middle-Easterners
3. Add "Far East" subforum
Move there the threads about China, Japan, etc.
4. Add "Europe / Russia" subforum
All European and Russian threads goes there
As a side remark, in its former acception, the word "Europe" was understood to include Russia, which has 3/4 of its population west to the Urals. The usage changed during the Cold War... but Cold War has been over for 20 years. :mrgreen:
5. Add "South Asia" subforum
This one is debatable, but I don't think it fair to lump together more than half of humankind, countries as diverse as India, Japan, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Taiwan or Burma, and attribute them one single subforum. So I don't recommend having one single "Asia" subforum.
South Asia would include all countries from Pakistan & Afghanistan to Burma. Extend it to Central Asia up north till Kazakhstan
6. Add "Africa" subforum
Egypt would be in Middle East, as an exception. Morocco and all the other White African countries would be in "Africa"
7. Add "South America" subforum
Not including Mexico obviously

The "Current events" folder would be devoted only to global topics / or transverse topics not particular to a single part of the World.
We could get topics followed through.
We would be inclined to develop more discussions about parts of the World just as important than USA or Middle-East

In a word, reflect Multi-Polarity in the structure of the forum itself

:?: What do you think?


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fully agree

discussing German economy and Berlesconi in Europe is meaningless

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Arabs have their own issues, so does Islam or Judaism or Christianity .. and Indonesia and China not same pot

yes, agree, a rethinking of threads and sub-threads a very good idea .. this will also eliminates the need for adding new thread daily

YMix wrote:
I see existence of these two sub-fora as a distant consequence of 9/11 and recent US wars: these have put the focus on America and the Middle East, yes.


Actually, the two sub-fora are the result of Mr. Perfect and Azari Sativus Loves Crocus Persicum. In order to prevent the Current Events forum from being overrun with "Democrats are evil!" and "Islam rules, Persians are best!" threads, Typhoon decided to continue Tinker's system and give these prolific posters two sub-fora.



come on , come on .. is poor Azari now the new Jooooo ? :lol:



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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Typhoon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:48 am

YMix wrote:
I see existence of these two sub-fora as a distant consequence of 9/11 and recent US wars: these have put the focus on America and the Middle East, yes.


Actually, the two sub-fora are the result of Mr. Perfect and Azari Sativus Loves Crocus Persicum. In order to prevent the Current Events forum from being overrun with "Democrats are evil!" and "Islam rules, Persians are best!" threads, Typhoon decided to continue Tinker's system and give these prolific posters two sub-fora.


YMix is quite right.

The current set-up of the sub-fora is mostly a product of board history.

I agree that it makes sense to have additional geographic sub-fora as threads such as China, Canada, etc that may not be active for a while drop far down the list and are a bit troublesome to find.

Will implement your [Alexis'] suggestions in some form when I have a moment.
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Typhoon » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:23 pm

This issue has now been addressed with the new "Current Events" sub-forums.
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:27 pm

Typhoon wrote:.

This issue has now been addressed with the new "Current Events" sub-forums.

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good idea

but

I find the division a bit confusing and awkward .. Muslim word does not mean anything, is there a Christian world ? ? is debating German economic issues with Guatemala economic issues in Christan world thread wise ?

Indonesia # 1 and India # 2 biggest Muslim nation, do they belong in Muslim world thread .. Iran no Arab but in same thread as Israel and Saudi Arabia and and

division should be either political or geographical or ethnicity .. or .. the good and the bad guys :lol:



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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Hoosiernorm » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:27 pm

I think it should be called Israel and it's enemies instead of The Muslim world. :mrgreen:
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:35 pm

Hoosiernorm wrote:.

I think it should be called Israel and it's enemies instead of The Muslim world. :mrgreen:

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confusing

Rhubarb not fleeing from Muslims, not looking for sanctuary from Muslims .. Rhubarb fleeing from you guys .. YOU the ones wanting "Vernichtung Jüdischen Volkes" .. Muslims have always given sanctuary to Rhubarb fleeing you guys

not yet MENSCH, instead, for you guys new Jews are the Muslims .. pfui


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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Hoosiernorm » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:55 pm

Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Hoosiernorm wrote:.

I think it should be called Israel and it's enemies instead of The Muslim world. :mrgreen:

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confusing

Rhubarb not fleeing from Muslims, not looking for sanctuary from Muslims .. Rhubarb fleeing from you guys .. YOU the ones wanting "Vernichtung Jüdischen Volkes" .. Muslims have always given sanctuary to Rhubarb fleeing you guys

not yet MENSCH, instead, for you guys new Jews are the Muslims .. pfui


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Try a Google search of what a Mr Green Emoticon is use for and re read it.

As for the rest of the post.............. standard Waxwing of Persia -esque
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Typhoon » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:40 pm

Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Typhoon wrote:.

This issue has now been addressed with the new "Current Events" sub-forums.

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good idea

but

I find the division a bit confusing and awkward .. Muslim word does not mean anything, is there a Christian world ? ? is debating German economic issues with Guatemala economic issues in Christan world thread wise ?

Indonesia # 1 and India # 2 biggest Muslim nation, do they belong in Muslim world thread .. Iran no Arab but in same thread as Israel and Saudi Arabia and and

division should be either political or geographical or ethnicity .. or .. the good and the bad guys :lol:

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It serves it's historical purpose of providing a single thread for all the intolerant types and other looney tunes.
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Hoosiernorm » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:34 pm

How about Heebies and Jeebies then
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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:51 pm

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We should have a main Thread (with sub threads) for Books, books of different category of subject, for book recommendation, book reviews, opinion of the subject of the books , etc



Going to Tehran: Why the United States Must Come to Terms with the Islamic Republic of Iran


Leveretts’ Forthcoming Book Excerpted in Harper’s




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Re: Why only "American" & "Muslim/ ME" sub-fora?

Postby YMix » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:03 pm

Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


We should have a main Thread (with sub threads) for Books, books of different category of subject, for book recommendation, book reviews, opinion of the subject of the books , etc



Going to Tehran: Why the United States Must Come to Terms with the Islamic Republic of Iran


Leveretts’ Forthcoming Book Excerpted in Harper’s




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Heebie, Jeebie & Milton the Poet & Monster.........

Postby monster_gardener » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:01 pm

Hoosiernorm wrote:How about Heebies and Jeebies then


Thank You VERY Much for your post, HoosierNorm

Since you asked ;) ............

http://www.cartoonscrapbook.com/01pics-L/milton_L02.jpg

Heebie wears the hat.........

Jeebie has the claws and can opener mouth.......

BTW Heebie is smarter than Jeebie......... ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_the_Monster

But my favorite is Milton the Poet and MONSTER........




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gJAm1BA6Fg




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUtfUO_G ... creen&NR=1
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