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Postby admin » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:34 pm

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Postby Marcus » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:13 pm

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Off-topic . . belongs in Levitas . . :(
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Re: Your Paganism

Postby YMix » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:21 pm

Probably, but I figure I should be more relaxed about moderating such off-topics or I'll get myself in trouble again.
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Postby Marcus » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:28 pm

YMix wrote:Probably, but I figure I should be more relaxed about moderating such off-topics or I'll get myself in trouble again.

You do a good job as moderator, YMix, and you're safe on this one. The Colonel's slip is showing . . again . . ;)
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Re: Complaints

Postby Typhoon » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:01 pm

1/ Topical humour regarding a preceding post is fine. This forum does not cater to the easily offended.

2/ I have full confidence in YMix as a mod.
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Re: Complaints

Postby Marcus » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:26 pm

Typhoon wrote:1/ Topical humour regarding a preceding post is fine. This forum does not cater to the easily offended.

2/ I have full confidence in YMix as a mod.


1) I'm not easily offended, nor am I offended at all in this instance. Your post was simply off-topic however you care to rationalize it. Your call, the topic will survive.

2) Seconded . . I too have full confidence in YMix as a moderator.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Marcus » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:15 pm

Typhoon wrote:This thread was flagged for review.
The start post
http://onthenatureofthings.net/forum/vi ... 31361links to an external site which in turn quotes excerpts from the author of
Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative
Unless the above, self-published, book is a forgery, then it presumably reflects the views of it's author and thus the thread passes review.


First, the OP is but a disingenuous attempt to smear Republicans with what Ib considers to be an offensive point of view.

Second, Ib lies about what the article says. What the guy actually asked was whether a life of slavery was any more cruel than a life in Africa during that time.

Third, if anyone thinks the views expressed in that article are "Republican" views, well . . they're just plain stupid. I lived for 15 years in Red River County, Texas, a county that had not voted Republican since the Civil War, and I cannot tell you how many times I heard Democrats voice the opinions expressed in that article and much, much worse.

The entire thread doesn't even belong in Hell, the thread and its intent belong in a septic tank.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Parodite » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:16 pm

It is in the opening statement of Ibrahim:

I'm not saying this guy us indicative of the entire party..... but he's close.


This means he is stereotyping an entire community of people as "close" to being rotten. It also is in the subject title, suggestive of same.

It is one thing to link to an article or book and let the reader form his own opinion, but another to use that link to support the stereotyping smear you start with: the republican party nearly only consists of nearly complete rotten individuals.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Marcus » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:18 pm

Parodite wrote:It is in the opening statement of Ibrahim:
I'm not saying this guy us indicative of the entire party..... but he's close.
This means he is stereotyping an entire community of people as "close" to being rotten. It also is in the subject title, suggestive of same.

It is one thing to link to an article or book and let the reader form his own opinion, but another to use that link to support the stereotyping smear you start with: the republican party nearly only consists of nearly complete rotten individuals.


Bingo! A bigot is a bigot is a bigot . . we look for in others what we find in ourselves!
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Typhoon » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:44 pm

Both Republicrats and Demopublicans have been unfairly. and often outrageously, smeared in posts in the US section.

It appears to be a popular national pastime, so the thin-skinned should learn to deal with it.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Marcus » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:46 pm

Typhoon wrote:Both Republicrats and Demopublicans have been unfairly. and often outrageously, smeared in posts in the US section.

It appears to be a popular national pastime, so the thin-skinned should learn to deal with it.


Nothing "thin-skinned" about thinking trash-talk belongs in Hell . . :lol:

There was nothing whatever substantive in the OP . . just another bigoted attempt to smear the opposition. It's one thing to legitimately disagree in principle, quite another to descend into bigotry and prejudice in order to accuse others of bigotry and prejudice.

If hoping for something of substance in the Current Events forum is being "thin-skinned," then count me gulty-as-charged . . ;)
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Parodite » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:14 pm

Typhoon wrote:Both Republicrats and Demopublicans have been unfairly. and often outrageously, smeared in posts in the US section.

It appears to be a popular national pastime, so the thin-skinned should learn to deal with it.


This suggests it should be possible on this forum to unfairly and outrageously smear Islam and Muslims (as real or perceived)... without the thread ending up in Hell? That'll be the day.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Marcus » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:53 pm

Typhoon wrote:Finally a poster pointed out the obvious fallacy in this line of argument - a standard misuse and misapplication of mathematical induction - generalizing from n = 1 to an entire group.

As for shamelessness, the view from abroad is that both conservatives and liberals are equally shameless in their smears.


Skin Job spelled it out, but it has been patently obvious from the get-go that Ib's OP is sleazy attempt to smear Republicans and Conservatism with racism by quoting what Ib considers a racist and then applying his interpretation to an entire category of people. Nothing new there . . same ol' . . Liberals and Conservatives are not unique to the United States; Liberal and Conservative are transnational categories. A Liberal in, say, Canada finds Conservatives offensive wherever they're encountered.

Moreover, if anyone is naive enough to believe the views expressed in that article are Republican or Conservative views, well . . they are sadly misinformed. I lived for 15 years in Red River County, Texas, a county that had not voted Republican since before the Civil War, and I cannot tell you how many times I heard Democrats voice the opinions expressed in Ib's cited article and much, much worse.

In retrospect, the OP would best have been moved to Hell or, lacking that, perhaps to Levitas. Current Events should be reserved for more substantive topics.
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Re: Complaints

Postby Typhoon » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:32 pm

Please do not post complaints in a thread, but use the appropriate section - this one.

Historically, both the US and ME subsections were created as mud pens with a cordon sanitaire - quarantine boundaries - to contain the uncivil and dirty mudslinging that both topics inevitably seem to give rise to.

The general Current Events section is held to a higher standard of more substantial topics.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Typhoon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:26 pm

Skin Job wrote:And yet, Gore's ideology, if enacted, would have caused far more damage than any of the right-wing wackos portrayed in this thread.


There is an entire long thread devoted to debunking Goreian global warming ideology.

As this thread is about [fringe] Republicrats, that's what posted.

Skin Job wrote:So, how do you like your crazies, as repulsive yet harmless fringe elements, or slick, persuasive mainstream hucksters with supremely dangerous plans?


Don't care for either. What extremists at both end of the spectrum have in common is a hate for humanity.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Skin Job » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:39 pm

I dispute the notion that the OP, or the moderators for that matter, have the authority to define what sort of ideologue the phrase "these guys" encompasses.

Q: Why are these guys always Republicans?

A: They're not. Misanthropy knows no party lines.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby YMix » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:21 pm

Skin Job wrote:I dispute the notion that the OP, or the moderators for that matter, have the authority to define what sort of ideologue the phrase "these guys" encompasses.


Either I don't understand you correctly or you don't understand how a forum works.
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Skin Job » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:23 pm

YMix wrote:
Skin Job wrote:I dispute the notion that the OP, or the moderators for that matter, have the authority to define what sort of ideologue the phrase "these guys" encompasses.


Either I don't understand you correctly or you don't understand how a forum works.


Oh, I understand. You have the authority to move, delete, or ban, but you don't get to decide what words mean to us. Sorry to impugn your presumed omnipotence, sir.
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Re: Complaints

Postby Skin Job » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:29 pm

Well, you sure showed me!
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Typhoon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:29 pm

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YMix wrote:
Skin Job wrote:I dispute the notion that the OP, or the moderators for that matter, have the authority to define what sort of ideologue the phrase "these guys" encompasses.


Either I don't understand you correctly or you don't understand how a forum works.


Oh, I understand. You have the authority to move, delete, or ban, but you don't get to decide what words mean to us. Sorry to impugn your presumed omnipotence, sir.


If there was only "Republicrats are naughty" or "Demopublicans are nasty" threads and posts in the US section, then you might have a valid argument.

However, this is clearly not the case, there is plenty of both to go around, so what exactly is your issue?
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Re: Why are these guys always Republicans?

Postby Farcus » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:31 pm

Skin Job wrote:
YMix wrote:
Skin Job wrote:I dispute the notion that the OP, or the moderators for that matter, have the authority to define what sort of ideologue the phrase "these guys" encompasses.


Either I don't understand you correctly or you don't understand how a forum works.


Oh, I understand. You have the authority to move, delete, or ban, but you don't get to decide what words mean to us. Sorry to impugn your presumed omnipotence, sir.


Well, you sure showed me!


I'll remind you to keep a civil tone when you address the staff. You don't pay them to take your guff.
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Re: Complaints

Postby Skin Job » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:38 pm

I apologise for my ingratitude, and appreciate the opportunity to freely express selected opinions here on the forum.
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Re: Complaints

Postby Typhoon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:41 pm

Skin Job wrote:I apologise for my ingratitude, and appreciate the opportunity to freely express selected opinions here on the forum.


Do you actually also behave in such a manner in person?
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Re: Complaints

Postby Marcus » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:45 pm

Farcus wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Skin Job wrote:. . The truly great are almost universally humble, while pretenders need to strut and swagger.

A nice point, Skin Job, and nicely taken.
"Ye shall know them by their hubris" . . . :?:
Works for me . . should be the motto of these fora . . . :oops:

People who have conversations with their sock puppets are pathetic.


I went back and clicked on "Display this post" in order to find out what generated the subsequent exchange that was moved to Hell. No problem with that.'

But why wasn't F's bullshit post (above) that started the whole thing not moved to Hell as well? It's plainly ad hominem abuse of me/Skin Job.
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Re: Complaints

Postby Skin Job » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:49 pm

Typhoon wrote:
Skin Job wrote:I apologise for my ingratitude, and appreciate the opportunity to freely express selected opinions here on the forum.


Do you actually also behave in such a manner in person?


I am sincere in my gratitude for being allowed to post. Forgive me for the rest, please, I am not accustomed to being "moderated" in this fashion, and I was a bit upset.
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