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Re: Baseball

Postby Simple Minded » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:52 pm

Nonc Hilaire wrote:Perhaps Harrison is forgetting to compensate for the rotation of the earth.


Maybe his batting coach was a Dao-ist.... and he misunderstood the lesson of "be the bat."
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Re: Baseball

Postby noddy » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:00 pm

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Josh Harrison of the Pittsburgh Pirates may have experienced something never before seen in major league baseball: in four consecutive at-bats, he was hit by a pitch.

Records for hit-by-pitches is a bit spotty when sussing out when they occurred in a game (or games as in this case), so it can't be said for certain; but it hasn't happened in the last 40 years and there is only one other recorded occurrence of a batter getting hit four times in the span of two games-- and that was in the mid 1920s and considering the first game was a rather wild extra-inning affair, the player's last at-bat was likely not when he got hit.

Getting hit by a pitching (and being rewarded first base) is a rarer occurrence than hitting a home run. But even so, some players, due to crowding the plate or diving into the strike zone, do get hit at higher clips. Brandon Guyer is the leading "hitman" among active players, he has been hit in 6.15% of his career at bats. That itself is unusual as it exponentially higher than the average which hovers under 1% of all at bats. But Guyer stands on the very border of the batter's box, straddling the line between uncomfortably close to the plate and technically (though seldom enforce) a violation of the rules. Harrison too stands rather close in, but his is more of dive "into&over" the plate that usually leaves him right on the line itself. Even then it has amounted to him getting hit in a little over 1% of his at-bats for his career.

So it was quite bit of random luck to be hit in 4 consecutive at bats; against two different teams, three different pitchers, all in the general spot of his lower left leg and none of it intentional.


its funny how peoples luck goes in bat and ball sports but this is one aspect of baseball that is completely different to cricket.

aiming at the body is encouraged because the main strike zone is behind the batsmans legs.

if you have enough skill and speed as a bowler to get away with it (and not get smashed out of the park) then aiming at their chest and head to scare them into making mistakes is a legitimate approach.

the only restriction is going for the head is limited to 2 out of every 6 deliveries.
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Re: Baseball

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:44 am

Simple Minded wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Perhaps Harrison is forgetting to compensate for the rotation of the earth.


Maybe his batting coach was a Dao-ist.... and he misunderstood the lesson of "be the bat."


Maybe because of the way he was teaching it- players aren't so clever, saying, "let yourself become one with the ball" is a recipe for disaster. ;)
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Re: Baseball

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Thu May 04, 2017 9:25 am

Yankees are off unexpectedly to a scorching 17-9 start with a +45 run differential. (For those of you following who are not bat&ball game enthusiasts; the run differential doesn't count towards the record but is a decent measure on true talent of a team and will generally comport to what the final win-loss record over the full 162 game season.)

They trail the National League Washington Nationals by 1/2 a game for best record in baseball and they have the best run differential over all.

It is likely they will be falling back to earth a bit-- the starting rotation is not that great and has been showing signs of correction with poorer starts through the last two times through the rotation-- and the hitters, even the good ones, aren't all twice as good as the league average.

Right now they have a handful of hitters who are <150 +WRC [where +100 WRC is average], a starting rotation keeping them in games, and a true talent shut-down bullpen.

They do not need to play out of their minds the whole season, but a few more weeks of this and they could cruise at a mediocre .500% pace the rest of the way and right into the playoffs.
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Re: Baseball

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:36 am

Yu Darvish & Masahario Tanaka's First MLB Meeting Was One for the Ages

It was quite a marvelous pitching match-up, though I'm not sure where it would rank on my own personal list.

This was only the 2nd game in a century where both starting pitchers allowed zero runs, held the opponents to under 3 hits and had over 9 strikeouts on the evening.

This was also the first time in Major League history where two Japanese starters squared up with neither allowing a run.

Both Darvish and Tanaka have not been the same top 20-world class type pitchers of years past. Both have suffered arm injuries and it has sapped them a bit; this year both have been inconsistent (Tanaka has been downright awful in several outings) but they seemed to pull it together for this game.

It was the fourth time in their careers that they have faced off but the first since moving to the Major Leagues.

In three games for the Nippon Professional League, Darvish won all three match-ups between the two by pitching ever so slightly better.

Neither guy lasted long enough to get the win in this one. Tanaka went one inning longer by going 8 innings to Darvish's 7, with all the runs scoring in the game starting in 9th inning.
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Re: Baseball

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:53 am

As for my personal favorite pitching matchup?

That's a real tough one to answer but two games come to mind, especially within their context.

The first in Game 5 of the 1996 World Series:

Andy Petite vs (now hall of famer) John Smoltz



It was one of the most tense games I've ever seen. World Series, improbably tied two apiece after the Yankees got off to an awful start and lost the first two games; the game was so critical to handing the series to the Yankees.

The game was 1-0 and tense to the very final out; with a hobbled Paul O'Neill (who had an injured hamstring) barely making the catch for the final out.

It's a game that is worth seeing, if you have the approx 2 hours and 40 mins (give or take) to watch it.
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Re: Baseball

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:05 am

But the game which really pops out is almost perfect

This is one of the best pitched games I have ever seen, with two pitchers at very different parts of their career putting on quite a show.

It is only enhanced by the Boston-New York rivalry and the fact that David Cone, nearing the very end of his career was a New York City guy- he was a star pitcher and ace for both the Yankees and Mets right before he lost his stuff and steeply declined.

So it was a last hurrah sort of deal for him. And if I remember correctly, he takes a no-hitter fairly deep into this game.

Meanwhile, on the mound for New York was an in-his-prime Mike Mussina who will be going into the hall of fame sooner or later. He is one of the most unappreciated pitchers who was that dominate on the pitcher's mound.

The knock on him was that he was always the also-ran, the "almost" guy. He almost won the Cy Young Award; he almost won 20 games several times [he would not actually accomplish it until his final season in the big leagues]; he almost was the best pitcher in the league but just behind Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez and Greg Maddux; he almost pitched his team to a championship several times....

...and he almost pitched a perfect game on several separate occasions; taking a few into the ninth- in this game, he actually took a perfect game right up to the very last strike.

It was so disappointing to see him not get it but it was such a beautifully pitched game, I appreciate seeing it.

So you had one pitcher pitching a perfect game and another pitching a no-hitter in the biggest rivalry in the sport on a nationally televised game.

...and it would almost be remembered as one of the greatest pitched games ever if not for the fact that it happened about 9 days before September 11th, 2001.

If you want to see a great baseball game and a masterclass in pitching- watch this game:

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Re: Baseball

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:14 am

John Smoltz was known as a big game pitcher

but interestedly, the two biggest "big games" of his career ended up in loses.

Though I wouldn't attribute the loss in either to him. Both times he was ever barely outpitched. In the 1996 game I posted above and the very very very famous 1991 World Series Game 7 between the Twins and Braves.

That game went tied into extra innings in a best of seven series, so the winner ended up winning the championship [with at least one of the starters pitching into those extra innings].

Jack Morris outpitched a rookie (or maybe his second year?) John Smoltz in a game [and series] which is usually ranked among the best ever.

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Re: Baseball

Postby noddy » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:59 pm

suddenly i want a collection of American League West caps.

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