The Donald....the newest savior.....

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manolo wrote:
Doc wrote:
The answer to the musical question "What if god were one of us?" Is already known with respect to lessor gods thanks to the religion of Socialism.

Enough Alex !
Doc,

You have put a great deal of work into your post about socialism; however I do not think that Bernie Sanders is likely to win the nomination or to become president.

So, back to the thread subject in hand, which is "The Donald.. the newest savior.... ". :o

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Alex.
Alex last week I had a death in my family. Sudden and shocking. I am not going to go into the details other to say it was death cause by loss of hope a sleazy socialist whose name start with "0" and likes to talk about "hope" I am very upset about this. It should not have happened. But such things are what socialists do
"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros
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Doc wrote: Alex last week I had a death in my family. Sudden and shocking. I am not going to go into the details other to say it was death cause by loss of hope a sleazy socialist whose name start with "0" and likes to talk about "hope" I am very upset about this. It should not have happened. But such things are what socialists do
Doc,

A personal tragedy overrides the current discussion and I extend sincere condolences to you and your family.

Alex.
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manolo wrote:
Doc wrote: Alex last week I had a death in my family. Sudden and shocking. I am not going to go into the details other to say it was death cause by loss of hope <Caused in part by>a sleazy socialist whose name start with "0" and likes to talk about "hope" I am very upset about this. It should not have happened. But such things are what socialists do
Doc,

A personal tragedy overrides the current discussion and I extend sincere condolences to you and your family.

Alex.
Thank you Alex. I said that in case it seemed I was going over the top to you. I do enjoy talking to you a great deal.
"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros
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Doc wrote:.

Alex last week I had a death in my family. Sudden and shocking. I am not going to go into the details other to say it was death cause by loss of hope a sleazy socialist whose name start with "0" and likes to talk about "hope" I am very upset about this. It should not have happened. But such things are what socialists do

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Doc, just saw this .. very sorry hearing that.

Please accept my sincere condolences to you and your family.
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Doc wrote:
manolo wrote:
Doc wrote: .. I imagine he must terrify you Alex.
Doc,

You are not the first poster to play the 'fear' card in relation to the current topic.

It is a fair point. People of many political persuasions are concerned about the current situation. I have long held the view that ethics are normative, guided by a moral majority in most societies. However, normative ethics are not written in stone, and history shows us that there can be exceptional periods of a kind of mass madness, when established norms are suddenly overturned for a time. At its peak, the rule of law can be threatened.

Democracy, described by Churchill as the least worst political option, does have a particular weakness where this is concerned. This weakness is on display at the present time, and we will have the chance to see whether a majority of decent people will put the matter right in November, or whether we are in for trouble.

On balance, I think it is an 'interesting' time, as the Chinese say, but that good will prevail. We shall see. 8-)

Alex.
I have spent a lot of time studying such times of madness. What Churchill said about the return of Fascism is quite true. Particularly that fascism is a mostly left wing ideology. IE "COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD"

Germans gave up their individuality for the "Common Good" The word "Good" in English being derived from the word "God" Socialism is nothing more than a religion. Instead of faith in a "Common God' it is about faith in leadership doing the work of the "Common Good" To the point in some societies that the leadership is god.

The Nazis 25 points were not the words of just the Nazi Party They were the words of Hitler himself. The prophet of the Nationalist Socialist party's "Common Good" Anyone with the least bit objective judgement can see that these 25 point are left wing in nature. Even if more nationalistic and race based than most Socialists care for. Though one should remember that even Marx felt that the weak should die in the "revolutionary holocaust". That even Lenin killed 5 million people. That Stalin killed 7 million Ukrainians because they were Ukrainians

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/r ... points.htm
The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.
Now Yesterday it turns out (Again) that your UK labour party has a Nazi problem.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... wide-votes
Nazi Controversy Engulfs Labour Days Before U.K.-Wide Votes
Or as a believer in Fabian Socialism, the ideological under pinning of the UK labour party, once said (as I often like to quote)

hQvsf2MUKRQ

Socialism murdered at least 170 million people in the last century.
ps.jpg
Far more than any other reason for Mass Murder.

Socialism is an evil religion that holds up men as gods. Murder in the name of the humanist religion known as Socialism.

The answer to the musical question "What if god were one of us?" Is already known with respect to lessor gods thanks to the religion of Socialism.

Enough Alex !


.

Socialism, communism, Kapitalism

Nobody talking about "Humanism"

Typical

As said many times, all Western Philosophers, from Plato to Hegel .. non .. have "Humanism" in their "vocabulary"

All is about "Materialism" .. as if having more, GDP growth, brings happiness and is even moral

Nobody wants to hear about "Morality", Humanity, good and bad, evil.

Persian philosophers (many were scientist at the same time) talk is all about Humanity, Morality, Ethics, Good and Evil .. HEKMAT

That is why, Western culture and civilization, where it is

When a Jewish Czech refugee now US "Secretary of State", Madeleine Albright, on TV says it was worth killing half a million Iraqi children, it shows west has lost it.


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Doc wrote:
manolo wrote:
Doc wrote: .. I imagine he must terrify you Alex.
Doc,

You are not the first poster to play the 'fear' card in relation to the current topic.

It is a fair point. People of many political persuasions are concerned about the current situation. I have long held the view that ethics are normative, guided by a moral majority in most societies. However, normative ethics are not written in stone, and history shows us that there can be exceptional periods of a kind of mass madness, when established norms are suddenly overturned for a time. At its peak, the rule of law can be threatened.

Democracy, described by Churchill as the least worst political option, does have a particular weakness where this is concerned. This weakness is on display at the present time, and we will have the chance to see whether a majority of decent people will put the matter right in November, or whether we are in for trouble.

On balance, I think it is an 'interesting' time, as the Chinese say, but that good will prevail. We shall see. 8-)

Alex.
I have spent a lot of time studying such times of madness. What Churchill said about the return of Fascism is quite true. Particularly that fascism is a mostly left wing ideology. IE "COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD"

Germans gave up their individuality for the "Common Good" The word "Good" in English being derived from the word "God" Socialism is nothing more than a religion. Instead of faith in a "Common God' it is about faith in leadership doing the work of the "Common Good" To the point in some societies that the leadership is god.

The Nazis 25 points were not the words of just the Nazi Party They were the words of Hitler himself. The prophet of the Nationalist Socialist party's "Common Good" Anyone with the least bit objective judgement can see that these 25 point are left wing in nature. Even if more nationalistic and race based than most Socialists care for. Though one should remember that even Marx felt that the weak should die in the "revolutionary holocaust". That even Lenin killed 5 million people. That Stalin killed 7 million Ukrainians because they were Ukrainians

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/r ... points.htm
The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.
Now Yesterday it turns out (Again) that your UK labour party has a Nazi problem.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... wide-votes
Nazi Controversy Engulfs Labour Days Before U.K.-Wide Votes
Or as a believer in Fabian Socialism, the ideological under pinning of the UK labour party, once said (as I often like to quote)

hQvsf2MUKRQ

Socialism murdered at least 170 million people in the last century.
ps.jpg
Far more than any other reason for Mass Murder.

Socialism is an evil religion that holds up men as gods. Murder in the name of the humanist religion known as Socialism.

The answer to the musical question "What if god were one of us?" Is already known with respect to lessor gods thanks to the religion of Socialism.

Enough Alex !


.

Socialism, communism, Kapitalism

Nobody talking about "Humanism"

Typical

As said many times, all Western Philosophers, from Plato to Hegel .. non .. have "Humanism" in their "vocabulary"

All is about "Materialism" .. as if having more, GDP growth, brings happiness and is even moral

Nobody wants to hear about "Morality", Humanity, good and bad, evil.

Persian philosophers (many were scientist at the same time) talk is all about Humanity, Morality, Ethics, Good and Evil .. HEKMAT

That is why, Western culture and civilization, where it is

When a Jewish Czech refugee now US "Secretary of State", Madeleine Albright, on TV says it was worth killing half a million Iraqi children, it shows west has lost it.


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AZ I would dispute that humanism and morality in not in their vocabulary "All that it takes for evil to prevail is for men of good will to do nothing."

But it is also said "Its the economy stupid"
"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros
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Doc wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Doc wrote:
manolo wrote:
Doc wrote: .. I imagine he must terrify you Alex.
Doc,

You are not the first poster to play the 'fear' card in relation to the current topic.

It is a fair point. People of many political persuasions are concerned about the current situation. I have long held the view that ethics are normative, guided by a moral majority in most societies. However, normative ethics are not written in stone, and history shows us that there can be exceptional periods of a kind of mass madness, when established norms are suddenly overturned for a time. At its peak, the rule of law can be threatened.

Democracy, described by Churchill as the least worst political option, does have a particular weakness where this is concerned. This weakness is on display at the present time, and we will have the chance to see whether a majority of decent people will put the matter right in November, or whether we are in for trouble.

On balance, I think it is an 'interesting' time, as the Chinese say, but that good will prevail. We shall see. 8-)

Alex.
I have spent a lot of time studying such times of madness. What Churchill said about the return of Fascism is quite true. Particularly that fascism is a mostly left wing ideology. IE "COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD"

Germans gave up their individuality for the "Common Good" The word "Good" in English being derived from the word "God" Socialism is nothing more than a religion. Instead of faith in a "Common God' it is about faith in leadership doing the work of the "Common Good" To the point in some societies that the leadership is god.

The Nazis 25 points were not the words of just the Nazi Party They were the words of Hitler himself. The prophet of the Nationalist Socialist party's "Common Good" Anyone with the least bit objective judgement can see that these 25 point are left wing in nature. Even if more nationalistic and race based than most Socialists care for. Though one should remember that even Marx felt that the weak should die in the "revolutionary holocaust". That even Lenin killed 5 million people. That Stalin killed 7 million Ukrainians because they were Ukrainians

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/r ... points.htm
The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.
Now Yesterday it turns out (Again) that your UK labour party has a Nazi problem.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... wide-votes
Nazi Controversy Engulfs Labour Days Before U.K.-Wide Votes
Or as a believer in Fabian Socialism, the ideological under pinning of the UK labour party, once said (as I often like to quote)

hQvsf2MUKRQ

Socialism murdered at least 170 million people in the last century.
ps.jpg
Far more than any other reason for Mass Murder.

Socialism is an evil religion that holds up men as gods. Murder in the name of the humanist religion known as Socialism.

The answer to the musical question "What if god were one of us?" Is already known with respect to lessor gods thanks to the religion of Socialism.

Enough Alex !


.

Socialism, communism, Kapitalism

Nobody talking about "Humanism"

Typical

As said many times, all Western Philosophers, from Plato to Hegel .. non .. have "Humanism" in their "vocabulary"

All is about "Materialism" .. as if having more, GDP growth, brings happiness and is even moral

Nobody wants to hear about "Morality", Humanity, good and bad, evil.

Persian philosophers (many were scientist at the same time) talk is all about Humanity, Morality, Ethics, Good and Evil .. HEKMAT

That is why, Western culture and civilization, where it is

When a Jewish Czech refugee now US "Secretary of State", Madeleine Albright, on TV says it was worth killing half a million Iraqi children, it shows west has lost it.


.

AZ I would dispute that humanism and morality in not in their vocabulary "All that it takes for evil to prevail is for men of good will to do nothing."

But it is also said "Its the economy stupid"

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If so, maybe in the "FootNote".

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Trump the first GOP presidential contender to notice that
Reaganism dead long ago


Mr. Trump’s candidacy has showed that the cadre of genuine social conservatives is smaller than long assumed, that grass-roots Republican support for large military commitments in the Middle East has withered, and that the business community is politically homeless.

So it has come to this: A mercantilist isolationist is the odds-on favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination. Whether or not he goes on to win the general election, the Republican Party cannot return to what it once was. The Reagan era has ended, and what comes next is anyone’s guess.

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Trump the first GOP presidential contender to notice that
Reaganism dead long ago


Mr. Trump’s candidacy has showed that the cadre of genuine social conservatives is smaller than long assumed, that grass-roots Republican support for large military commitments in the Middle East has withered, and that the business community is politically homeless.

So it has come to this: A mercantilist isolationist is the odds-on favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination. Whether or not he goes on to win the general election, the Republican Party cannot return to what it once was. The Reagan era has ended, and what comes next is anyone’s guess.
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Excellent Article AZ which links to an even more interesting article

http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/7501
The Party of Sam's Club
Isn't it time the Republicans did something for their voters?

Nov 14, 2005 | By Ross Douthat and Reihan Salam
Funny how the editor of the weekly standard doesn't seem to read articles on his own eRag.
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[...]

Want to know why Obamacare is fully funded? Why the meager spending caps enacted in 2011 were busted? Why the debt limit was suspended so Washington could zoom past its $18 trillion credit line? Why Obama’s lawless executive order granting de facto amnesty to illegal aliens is proceeding apace? Why Obama is emptying Guantanamo Bay and planning to transfer detainees into the United States? Why the EPA continues to implement Obama’s climate-change agenda despite a Supreme Court stay of its anti-coal regulation? Why no official was impeached and no funding was slashed when the IRS was used as a political weapon against conservative groups? Why the Justice Department has a $27 billion budget that pays for its paralyzing investigations of the nation’s police departments while the attorney general threatens new legal action against climate-change “deniers” and “anti-Muslim” speech?

Thank John Boehner. To fight Obama on these and other progressive priorities would have required exploiting Congress’s constitutional authority, particularly the power of the purse. Boehner and other GOP leaders were given this power because voters believed their promises to fight. Empty promises.

While Boehner was surrendering, Donald Trump was backing him to the hilt: a staggering $100,000 contribution to the Congressional Leadership Fund — Boehner’s super PAC, formed largely to fend off conservative primary challenges against GOP establishment loyalists. It should be easy to remember that number, $100,000. It is the same amount Trump gave to the Clinton Foundation. That’s even more than the $60,000 Trump gave to Kentuckians for Strong Leadership, the super PAC of Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (along with a $5,200 contribution to McConnell’s reelection campaign). It was McConnell, of course, who handled the Senate end of the budget surrender that Obama praised for reflecting “our values” — meaning two years of his values, paid in full by the GOP-controlled Congress.

Remarkably, Trump has managed to separate himself from the political establishment that he has been underwriting for years by rhetorically attacking Washington’s infatuation with illegal aliens.

[...]
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ment-media
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Doc wrote:Alex last week I had a death in my family. Sudden and shocking. I am not going to go into the details other to say it was death cause by loss of hope a sleazy socialist whose name start with "0" and likes to talk about "hope" I am very upset about this. It should not have happened. But such things are what socialists do
Please accept my condolences, Doc.

I hope fond memories of the deceased person will help give you solace, in time.
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Trump has been accused of rudeness and vulgarity, sometimes rightly I'm afraid. On that occasion however, I think his reaction was the right one, or more precisely it was actually too gentle.

No matter what one thinks of those two men, this much is sure: one is candidate to election in a democratic country, the other is a tyrant.
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Doc wrote:Alex last week I had a death in my family. Sudden and shocking. I am not going to go into the details other to say it was death cause by loss of hope a sleazy socialist whose name start with "0" and likes to talk about "hope" I am very upset about this. It should not have happened. But such things are what socialists do
Please accept my condolences, Doc.

I hope fond memories of the deceased person will help give you solace, in time.
Thanks Alexis. Just getting over the shock here.
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[...]

Want to know why Obamacare is fully funded? Why the meager spending caps enacted in 2011 were busted? Why the debt limit was suspended so Washington could zoom past its $18 trillion credit line? Why Obama’s lawless executive order granting de facto amnesty to illegal aliens is proceeding apace? Why Obama is emptying Guantanamo Bay and planning to transfer detainees into the United States? Why the EPA continues to implement Obama’s climate-change agenda despite a Supreme Court stay of its anti-coal regulation? Why no official was impeached and no funding was slashed when the IRS was used as a political weapon against conservative groups? Why the Justice Department has a $27 billion budget that pays for its paralyzing investigations of the nation’s police departments while the attorney general threatens new legal action against climate-change “deniers” and “anti-Muslim” speech?

Thank John Boehner. To fight Obama on these and other progressive priorities would have required exploiting Congress’s constitutional authority, particularly the power of the purse. Boehner and other GOP leaders were given this power because voters believed their promises to fight. Empty promises.

While Boehner was surrendering, Donald Trump was backing him to the hilt: a staggering $100,000 contribution to the Congressional Leadership Fund — Boehner’s super PAC, formed largely to fend off conservative primary challenges against GOP establishment loyalists. It should be easy to remember that number, $100,000. It is the same amount Trump gave to the Clinton Foundation. That’s even more than the $60,000 Trump gave to Kentuckians for Strong Leadership, the super PAC of Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (along with a $5,200 contribution to McConnell’s reelection campaign). It was McConnell, of course, who handled the Senate end of the budget surrender that Obama praised for reflecting “our values” — meaning two years of his values, paid in full by the GOP-controlled Congress.

Remarkably, Trump has managed to separate himself from the political establishment that he has been underwriting for years by rhetorically attacking Washington’s infatuation with illegal aliens.

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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ment-media
National Review is as guilty as anyone they point to. And DT has been very open to why he bribes politicians. Because he can. Don't hate the playa hate the game.

Funny stuff as usual Ymix.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Socialism, communism, Kapitalism

Nobody talking about "Humanism"
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"Humanists" always end up working for socialist/communist.
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I didn't expect to see Trump finish this strong. Impressive.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:National Review is as guilty as anyone they point to. And DT has been very open to why he bribes politicians. Because he can. Don't hate the playa hate the game.
Then you should stop criticizing Clinton and Obama. After all, they are just players, like everyone else in Washington. Trump puts money on the table, they grab it. It's the game.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:I didn't expect to see Trump finish this strong. Impressive.
Why not? The man is a honey badger- he just keeps going.

Hillary is in trouble. She can't keep up with his mouth; she can't keep up with her own.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:National Review is as guilty as anyone they point to. And DT has been very open to why he bribes politicians. Because he can. Don't hate the playa hate the game.
Then you should stop criticizing Clinton and Obama. After all, they are just players, like everyone else in Washington. Trump puts money on the table, they grab it. It's the game.
Find one instance where I critized them for taking money.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:I didn't expect to see Trump finish this strong. Impressive.
Why not? The man is a honey badger- he just keeps going.

Hillary is in trouble. She can't keep up with his mouth; she can't keep up with her own.
Trump will lose.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:I didn't expect to see Trump finish this strong. Impressive.
Why not? The man is a honey badger- he just keeps going.

Hillary is in trouble. She can't keep up with his mouth; she can't keep up with her own.
Trump will lose.
It's going to be a lot closer than you think.

Your prognostication powers have not been so good. I think there may something wrong with your antennae.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Find one instance where I critized them for taking money.
But taking money is part of the whole rotten deal. They take money from the likes of Trump for their own benefit and to screw the public. After all, you did say:
HiIlary Clinton will be the next President. The donor class will reach levels they never before dreamed.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:I didn't expect to see Trump finish this strong. Impressive.
Why not? The man is a honey badger- he just keeps going.

Hillary is in trouble. She can't keep up with his mouth; she can't keep up with her own.
Trump will lose.
It's going to be a lot closer than you think.

Your prognostication powers have not been so good. I think there may something wrong with your antennae.
Trump may lose if Obama decides to indict Hillary before the Dem Convention. Either way Hillary is toast.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Find one instance where I critized them for taking money.
But taking money is part of the whole rotten deal. They take money from the likes of Trump for their own benefit and to screw the public. After all, you did say:
HiIlary Clinton will be the next President. The donor class will reach levels they never before dreamed.
There is a difference between criticism and publicizing.
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