The attempted coup d'état against Trump continues

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So Representative Nunes flaked out at the last minute. What the heck is going on in Washington?
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:So Representative Nunes flaked out at the last minute. What the heck is going on in Washington?
Intra-government civil war.
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as nap mentioned eariler, the outcome of both sides of government proving t to the population that the other side is completely corrupt is going to be a ripper.
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Trump spent half of what Hillary did. The answer is pretty clear.
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Zack Morris wrote:Lol. This isn't remotely what Trump accused Obama of. OBAMA wasn't listening in on Trump or Trump Tower. Trump lied and Hannity makes Brazile look like Cronkite.
He listens in on everyone. You included. He tapped Merkel, Netahyaho, some gal from Brazil, the CIA spied on the Senate, obama spies on journalists.
Obama did not order a wiretapping of Donald Trump. The NSA listens to everyone and has been since the 60's. Trump accused Obama in very personal terms and could not be clearer about what he meant with his Watergate comparison: that Obama ordered a wiretapping of the Trump campaign to use that information against him. All completely false. Trump is a pathological liar. He has lost all credibility with everyone and won't be able to negotiate his way out of the paper bag his McDonald's lunch came in when the inevitable international crisis strikes.
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Lol no. Lying would be what you guys did in Benghazi. That was a lie.

The truth is obama floored the pedal on the criminal state and is directly accountable for the actions of the NSA and CIA which did surveill Trump and Clinton. The CIA and NSA operate under the instructions of the President of the United States.

You are dead morally wrong again, and Trump is a fountain of truth again.
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noddy wrote:as nap mentioned eariler, the outcome of both sides of government proving t to the population that the other side is completely corrupt is going to be a ripper.
the god of triangulation works in mysterious ways..... much safer to lose elections and claim you are more competent than the incumbent.....

"We're not as a bad a bunch of f**K-ups as you guys!" is a common battle cry, but it does get old.
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Zack Morris wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Zack Morris wrote:Lol. This isn't remotely what Trump accused Obama of. OBAMA wasn't listening in on Trump or Trump Tower. Trump lied and Hannity makes Brazile look like Cronkite.
He listens in on everyone. You included. He tapped Merkel, Netahyaho, some gal from Brazil, the CIA spied on the Senate, obama spies on journalists.
Obama did not order a wiretapping of Donald Trump. The NSA listens to everyone and has been since the 60's. Trump accused Obama in very personal terms and could not be clearer about what he meant with his Watergate comparison: that Obama ordered a wiretapping of the Trump campaign to use that information against him. All completely false. Trump is a pathological liar. He has lost all credibility with everyone and won't be able to negotiate his way out of the paper bag his McDonald's lunch came in when the inevitable international crisis strikes.
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Minus 17% :lol:
Trump’s Job Approval Rating Reaches New Low


President Trump’s job approval has been the lowest of any chief executive since Gallup began tracking the initial months of a president’s term in 1953.

Mr. Trump’s record-low approval rating is because of high disapproval among Democrats and independents, but masks the considerable satisfaction Republicans feel with his presidency so far.

MP, Doc, Donald should declare victory and resign .. the whole thing now a Tragicomedy .. How can America swallow this rubbish, our beloved America run now by Ivanka and (chief ME negotiator) Jared Kushner :lol: :lol:

Come on, come on

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

Minus 17% :lol:
Trump’s Job Approval Rating Reaches New Low


President Trump’s job approval has been the lowest of any chief executive since Gallup began tracking the initial months of a president’s term in 1953.

Mr. Trump’s record-low approval rating is because of high disapproval among Democrats and independents, but masks the considerable satisfaction Republicans feel with his presidency so far.


MP, Doc, Donald should declare victory and resign .. the whole thing now a Tragicomedy .. How can America swallow this rubbish, our beloved America run now by Ivanka and (chief ME negotiator) Jared Kushner :lol: :lol:

Come on, come on

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The same polls said Trump would lose the election . Maybe the polls should declare victory and resign. Maybe the pollsters could sell used cars or used bridges or something. Theny you could buy one off of them AZ !!!
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Psychologist Analyzes Trump’s Election And The Progressive Left
Sifting through the tumultuous aftermath of President Donald Trump’s election, a former clinical psychologist steeped in understanding cultural Marxism, shares his observations on how Democrats are working to distract and delegitimatize Trump.

According to Tim Daughtry, author of “Waking the Sleeping Giant,” our elections since 2010 demonstrate citizens want Washington to stop governing against the will of the people as it drives the nation towards liberal progressive socialism. The clear 2016 ballot box message, he says, was “change course, secure our borders, get rid of Obamacare, put in some free market reforms, get our economy going again” with this man, who has never held elective office.

Daughtry says America is clearly facing a crisis over the “consent of the governed” as citizens demand a responsive national government, just as the British turned from globalism of the European Union in their surprising Brexit vote last June. Trump’s inaugural address echoed this very theme as, to cheers, he promised to transfer power back to the citizen, from a small Washington elite.

“The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of the country. Their victories have not been your victories,” Trump said, echoing his defense of the “forgotten man and woman” who elected him.

If Washington’s swamp-like behavior continues, Daughtry predicts “conditioned helplessness,” apathy and the surrender of America being founded on the core principle of the “consent of the governed” as elections will demonstrate to have no consequences.

Daughtry reveals three political warfare tactics of the left being used in our culture and politics to distract and delegitimize President Trump – a “pig-pen strategy,” vilification campaigns and gaslighting.

The “pig-pen strategy,” from the old “Peanuts” cartoons, comes from the efforts to throw a cloud of innuendo, doubt and even the impression of corruption around Trump.

The rise of vilification campaigns, as taught by Saul Alinsky, is reducing our civility as Democrats try to destroy, not debate, those who disagree with them, Daughtry explains.

Gaslighting is on display as arguments like the “Russians hacked the election” or “Putin is controlling President Trump” attempt to manipulate public opinion. Reality dislocation techniques can erode Trump’s approval ratings so as to slow the bold Trump mandates.
More at the link

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/01/psych ... ium=Social
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All the former president's patsies


http://circa.com/politics/barack-obama- ... -be-shared
Obama's rule changes opened door for NSA intercepts of Americans to reach political handsby John Solomon and Sara Carter
Politics
March 29, 2017

As his presidency drew to a close, Barack Obama’s top aides routinely reviewed intelligence reports gleaned from the National Security Agency’s incidental intercepts of Americans abroad, taking advantage of rules their boss relaxed starting in 2011 to help the government better fight terrorism, espionage by foreign enemies and hacking threats, Circa has learned.

Dozens of times in 2016, those intelligence reports identified Americans who were directly intercepted talking to foreign sources or were the subject of conversations between two or more monitored foreign figures. Sometimes the Americans’ names were officially unmasked; other times they were so specifically described in the reports that their identities were readily discernible. Among those cleared to request and consume unmasked NSA-based intelligence reports about U.S. citizens were Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice, his CIA Director John Brennan and then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
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You know what the biggest tragedy is ? ? ? Le Pin going to Moscow to get approval and not Washington .. that pretty much wraps up how things will be run in the future, "all roads pass through Moscow".


Marine Le Pen of France Meets With Vladimir Putin in Moscow .. when at the same time Hotel occupancy falling in US (those tourists not coming are not Iranians, but Europeans and from all the world .. Trump pissed them off)


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Russian television broadcast images of Ms. Le Pen, gesticulating energetically across the table from a disengaged-looking Mr. Putin. Earlier, she called for “developing relations” with Russia and “cooperation” in antiterrorism. Both were nods to her presidential campaign platform, which advocates closer ties with Mr. Putin, friendliness toward President Trump and rejection of the European Union.

The meeting highlighted the potential for a general realignment of relations with Russia, even at a time when it has been accused of meddling in Western elections through computer hacking and the promotion of fake news, sowing alarm on both sides of the Atlantic.

The Trump administration has shown itself sympathetic to Moscow, to the extent that pre-election contacts between the two sides are being investigated in the United States. In a crucial election year in Europe, campaigns are now peppered with parties and candidates that could sharply redirect ties with Moscow.

If Le Pin is next French President, She did not come to US but went to Putin to get her approval.

Putin now leading things in Europe ..

Just recently somebody here (I think it was CS) was saying Putin a murderer and thug and KGB agent .. :lol: .. that is a compliment to KGB agents (to have people like Putin as their agent), Bush was a CIA head and president (who failed America miserably).


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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-0 ... susan-rice
Cernovich Explains How He Learned About Susan Rice
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Ever since Mike Cernovich dropped the bombshell report over the weekend outing Obama's National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, as the person behind the unmasking of the identity of various members of Trump's team who were 'incidentally' surveilled during the 2016 campaign (see "Confirmed: Susan Rice "Unmasked" Trump Team"), a report which was subsequently confirmed by Eli Lake of Bloomberg earlier this morning, everyone has been wondering who within the Trump White House or the intelligence community supplied him with such a massive scoop.

But, as it turns out, Cernovich didn't need a 'deep throat' within the NSA or CIA for his blockbuster scoop, all he needed was some well-placed sources inside of a couple of America's corrupt mainstream media outlets. As Cernovich explains below, his sources for the Susan Rice story were actually folks working at Bloomberg and the New York Times who revealed that both Eli Lake (Bloomberg) and Maggie Haberman (NYT) were sitting on the Susan Rice story in order to protect the Obama administration.

"Maggie Haberman had it. She will not run any articles that are critical of the Obama administration."

"Eli Lake had it. He didn't want to run it and Bloomberg didn't want to run it because it vindicates Trump's claim that he had been spied upon. And Eli Lake is a 'never Trumper.' Bloomberg was a 'never Trump' publication."



"I'm showing you the politics of 'real journalism'. 'Real journalism' is that Bloomberg had it and the New York Times had it but they wouldn't run it because they don't want to run any stories that would make Obama look bad or that will vindicate Trump. They only want to run stories that make Trump look bad so that's why they sat on it."



"So where did I get the story? I didn't get it from the intelligence community
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The deep state begins to break ranks
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Oh what a tangled web we weave when we set out to deceive

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Doc wrote:Oh what a tangled web we weave when we set out to deceive

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The Real Surveillance Problem
Many innocent Americans are subject to the “incidental collection” of private information by the government.


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.. Under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), countless Americans are subject to the same incidental collection that President Trump now thinks is a serious problem, and the rules for accessing and using those communications are far more lax than the Susan Rice process, and totally unrelated to foreign intelligence and national security. This law is set to expire at the end of 2017, giving civil libertarians on both sides of the aisle to enact reasonable reforms just as they did in banning PATRIOT Act bulk collection in 2015.

The controversy of the day—Susan Rice requesting the unmasking of information—is a legal and regular procedure for the national-security adviser. In this case, reports Rice received involved agents of foreign powers (they, not any Americans, were the targets of surveillance) talking about and occasionally to Americans. Sometimes the identity of “masked” (meaning anonymized) Americans is totally unnecessary to understanding the foreign intelligence of these reports, but on other occasions—for example, if foreign agents are discussing how to influence or blackmail a U.S. government official—it can be critical. In such cases, the national-security adviser will request the identity to be unmasked, not to target an American, but rather to evaluate and understand the foreign intelligence. And the process to request such unmasking is far from lax, requiring NSA’s confirmation that unmasking is required to understand foreign intelligence.

By comparison, Section 702 of FISA involves the monitoring of Americans with no connection to foreign intelligence and can be used for reasons totally disconnected from the national-security objectives of FISA. This law is the surveillance issue that Republicans, Democrats, and all Americans should be focused on right now.

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Doc wrote:Oh what a tangled web we weave when we set out to deceive

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The Real Surveillance Problem
Many innocent Americans are subject to the “incidental collection” of private information by the government.


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.. Under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), countless Americans are subject to the same incidental collection that President Trump now thinks is a serious problem, and the rules for accessing and using those communications are far more lax than the Susan Rice process, and totally unrelated to foreign intelligence and national security. This law is set to expire at the end of 2017, giving civil libertarians on both sides of the aisle to enact reasonable reforms just as they did in banning PATRIOT Act bulk collection in 2015.

The controversy of the day—Susan Rice requesting the unmasking of information—is a legal and regular procedure for the national-security adviser. In this case, reports Rice received involved agents of foreign powers (they, not any Americans, were the targets of surveillance) talking about and occasionally to Americans. Sometimes the identity of “masked” (meaning anonymized) Americans is totally unnecessary to understanding the foreign intelligence of these reports, but on other occasions—for example, if foreign agents are discussing how to influence or blackmail a U.S. government official—it can be critical. In such cases, the national-security adviser will request the identity to be unmasked, not to target an American, but rather to evaluate and understand the foreign intelligence. And the process to request such unmasking is far from lax, requiring NSA’s confirmation that unmasking is required to understand foreign intelligence.

By comparison, Section 702 of FISA involves the monitoring of Americans with no connection to foreign intelligence and can be used for reasons totally disconnected from the national-security objectives of FISA. This law is the surveillance issue that Republicans, Democrats, and all Americans should be focused on right now.

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Bingo !!

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Section 702 of FISA involves the monitoring of Americans with no connection to foreign intelligence and can be used for reasons totally disconnected from the national-security objectives of FISA.

This law is the surveillance issue that Republicans, Democrats, and all Americans should be focused on right now.

:lol:


Come on, come on

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
Section 702 of FISA involves the monitoring of Americans with no connection to foreign intelligence and can be used for reasons totally disconnected from the national-security objectives of FISA.

This law is the surveillance issue that Republicans, Democrats, and all Americans should be focused on right now.

:lol:


Come on, come on

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You already posted this once AZ Do you imagine people here didn't know how to read the first time you posted it?
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
Section 702 of FISA involves the monitoring of Americans with no connection to foreign intelligence and can be used for reasons totally disconnected from the national-security objectives of FISA.

This law is the surveillance issue that Republicans, Democrats, and all Americans should be focused on right now.

:lol:


Come on, come on

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You already posted this once AZ Do you imagine people here didn't know how to read the first time you posted it ?


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As Henry Ford saids .. "I don't know, but for sure feels that way" :lol:


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The government is demanding to know who this Trump critic is.
Twitter is suing to keep it a secret.


Twitter filed a lawsuit Thursday against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, asking the court to prevent the department from taking steps to unmask the user behind an account critical of the Trump administration.

The tech company said that allowing DHS access to that information would produce a “grave chilling effect on the speech of that account,” as well as other accounts critical of the U.S. government. The case sets up a potential showdown over free speech between Silicon Valley and Washington.
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C.I.A. Had Evidence of Russian Effort to Help Trump Earlier Than Believed


The briefings indicate that intelligence officials had evidence of Russia’s intentions to help Mr. Trump much earlier in the presidential campaign than previously thought. The briefings also reveal a critical split last summer between the C.I.A. and counterparts at the F.B.I., where a number of senior officials continued to believe through last fall that Russia’s cyberattacks were aimed primarily at disrupting America’s political system, and not at getting Mr. Trump elected, according to interviews.

The former officials said that in late August — 10 weeks before the election — John O. Brennan, then the C.I.A. director, was so concerned about increasing evidence of Russia’s election meddling that he began a series of urgent, individual briefings for eight top members of Congress, some of them on secure phone lines while they were on their summer break.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Doc wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
Section 702 of FISA involves the monitoring of Americans with no connection to foreign intelligence and can be used for reasons totally disconnected from the national-security objectives of FISA.

This law is the surveillance issue that Republicans, Democrats, and all Americans should be focused on right now.

:lol:


Come on, come on

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You already posted this once AZ Do you imagine people here didn't know how to read the first time you posted it ?


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As Henry Ford saids .. "I don't know, but for sure feels that way" :lol:


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SInce that is the case I guess I will stop feeding the troll Bye bye
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SInce that is the case I guess I will stop feeding the troll Bye bye

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Come on, Doc

Just wanted to make the point you not answered key element of that post.

You participation is highly valued by HP, Doc

What's your comment re Trump .. they saying he failing everywhere

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