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Doc wrote:
Zack Morris wrote:A number in isolation: meaningless. How about some context? Blacks are also vastly more likely to be poorer, more likely to be unemployed, less likely to have college degrees, and were even worse off at the turn of the 20th century, when slavery was still within living memory. You wouldn't be surprised that blacks suffer disproportionately from gun violence and police brutality given these circumstances. Given that unintended pregnancies are inversely correlated to socioeconomic status, why would you be surprised that blacks in troubled communities are overrepresented in abortion statistics?

You know where abortions are really frequent? China! For some girls there, the morning after pill is the preferred form of contraceptive. A eugenicist plot? Nope -- just lack of education and the same lack of desire for pumping out babies that everyone else has.
There are more poor white people in this country than there are black people. In China there is a one child per couple law plus forced abortions. In the US Abortion has been marketed to black people pretty consistently and Klanned Parenthood Abortion clinics seem to be centered in areas of higher black populations. Plus donations given to black churches.
So? There are proportionally fewer poor whites than poor blacks, and therefore a vastly larger support system for poor whites, who face fewer barriers to opportunity. Black communities in the US have always suffered far worse pathologies than white ones. For most of that time, this was only exacerbated by government-sanctioned terrorism against them and victimization of them at the hands of white communities. The marriage rate is but one example. Disproportionate incarceration is another. How do you expect black children to be raised when so many potential black fathers are locked away? What do you suppose young, single, poor, and pregnant black women will logically choose to do? I mean, DUH!

Sanger has been dead for how long now? What have your people done to help blacks so that they don't need to get so many abortions? Absolutely nothing. Abortion clinics are providing a legitimate service, not trying to carry out a genocide. But perversely, it's the people who claim it's a genocide and feign mock outrage that are secretly hoping it is. Shame, shame, shame on you!
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Doc wrote:
Zack Morris wrote:A number in isolation: meaningless. How about some context? Blacks are also vastly more likely to be poorer, more likely to be unemployed, less likely to have college degrees, and were even worse off at the turn of the 20th century, when slavery was still within living memory. You wouldn't be surprised that blacks suffer disproportionately from gun violence and police brutality given these circumstances. Given that unintended pregnancies are inversely correlated to socioeconomic status, why would you be surprised that blacks in troubled communities are overrepresented in abortion statistics?

You know where abortions are really frequent? China! For some girls there, the morning after pill is the preferred form of contraceptive. A eugenicist plot? Nope -- just lack of education and the same lack of desire for pumping out babies that everyone else has.
There are more poor white people in this country than there are black people. In China there is a one child per couple law plus forced abortions. In the US Abortion has been marketed to black people pretty consistently and Klanned Parenthood Abortion clinics seem to be centered in areas of higher black populations. Plus donations given to black churches.
So? There are proportionally fewer poor whites than poor blacks, and therefore a vastly larger support system for poor whites, who face fewer barriers to opportunity. Black communities in the US have always suffered far worse pathologies than white ones. For most of that time, this was only exacerbated by government-sanctioned terrorism against them and victimization of them at the hands of white communities. The marriage rate is but one example. Disproportionate incarceration is another. How do you expect black children to be raised when so many potential black fathers are locked away? What do you suppose young, single, poor, and pregnant black women will logically choose to do? I mean, DUH!

Sanger has been dead for how long now? What have your people done to help blacks so that they don't need to get so many abortions? Absolutely nothing. Abortion clinics are providing a legitimate service, not trying to carry out a genocide. But perversely, it's the people who claim it's a genocide and feign mock outrage that are secretly hoping it is. Shame, shame, shame on you!
Why are you so resistant to help being given? Thus far yu have refused to even acknowledge the problem.

BTW I only have to go a couple hundred yards from where I am sitting to find families that live in old and small camping trailers. they are petty much exclusively white So please don't lecture about how only black people are poor.
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CNN "white washes" Oregon shooter's face.

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Doc wrote:CNN "white washes" Oregon shooter's face.

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and he was a Brit. Even the 3000 mile wide moat isn't working...
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YMix wrote:Image
It is called "the color of money" A very real effect.
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I was gonna post pictures of Michael Jackson & Rachael Dolezal, but then realized that I thought Michael was sexier when he was white and Rachael was sexier when she was black. :shock: :? :(

Maybe my gay pride self is racist, but my hetro self is not?

Thank God West Virginia is only a couple hours away.....
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Simple Minded wrote:I was gonna post pictures of Michael Jackson & Rachael Dolezal, but then realized that I thought Michael was sexier when he was white and Rachael was sexier when she was black. :shock: :? :(

Maybe my gay pride self is racist, but my hetro self is not?

Thank God West Virginia is only a couple hours away.....
All you have to do is have one leg shortened so you can walk along the hills properly

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YMix wrote:Image
Second "whiter" shot is not from the movie- quick googling says it from another movie, some say a porno.

When he's pretending to be "Prince Ali", he looks like this:

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which is pretty much how he looks earlier on in the movie.

There are scenes where he is shaded lighter, but they take place either in outdoor settings and try to mimic the effects of natural light on his skin; or when he finds the genie's lamp and is engulfed in a white light. From an artistic perspective, I guess you could argue they didn't capture the magical white light hitting his flesh so well. But then it becomes an argument about how to realistically draw magical white lights here.

Aladdin's tone changes also correspond roughly to the characters surrounding him, which could be a host of all the usual optical tricks.

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This was just stupid to bring up- Ymix just went full retarded on this one. Take it away RDJ:

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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:This was just stupid to bring up- Ymix just went full retarded on this one.
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YMix wrote:
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:This was just stupid to bring up- Ymix just went full retarded on this one.
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So... am I like Rambo I or Rambo II?
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YMix wrote:
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:This was just stupid to bring up- Ymix just went full retarded on this one.
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Wow! Not only was that very insensitive of napster, but he completely neglected to tell you how lucrative it can be to go full retarded in the right environment.

Of course you will have to fill out the proper paperwork, and since you're retarded, we have people who will do that for you!

Don't listen to him YMix! Let your inner retard shine! This is America! You have a right to be retarded! :D
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such a forgettable film, with such a great line/scene.

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i think the cut above misses the best bits.
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Doc wrote:CNN "white washes" Oregon shooter's face.

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It's on the Internet, so it must be true.
It's not real. CNN hasn't shown any images of gunman. Please consider the source of what you saw online.

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) | CNN | October 4, 2015
Snopes: False

Posters taking a moment to fact check, before rushing to post fake claims would be appreciated.

Confirmation bias is not an argument. Posters may strongly disagree, but let's do so intelligently and let other forums "go full retard" instead.
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Simple Minded wrote:Wow! Not only was that very insensitive of napster, but he completely neglected to tell you how lucrative it can be to go full retarded in the right environment.

Of course you will have to fill out the proper paperwork, and since you're retarded, we have people who will do that for you!

Don't listen to him YMix! Let your inner retard shine! This is America! You have a right to be retarded! :D
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......Confirmation bias is not an argument. Posters may strongly disagree, but let's do so intelligently and let other forums "go full retard" instead.
suddenly, I can identify with the oppression Endo experienced..... ;)
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YMix wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:Wow! Not only was that very insensitive of napster, but he completely neglected to tell you how lucrative it can be to go full retarded in the right environment.

Of course you will have to fill out the proper paperwork, and since you're retarded, we have people who will do that for you!

Don't listen to him YMix! Let your inner retard shine! This is America! You have a right to be retarded! :D
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Simple Minded wrote:
Typhoon wrote:
......Confirmation bias is not an argument. Posters may strongly disagree, but let's do so intelligently and let other forums "go full retard" instead.
suddenly, I can identify with the oppression Endo experienced..... ;)
Indeed.

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Typhoon wrote:
Doc wrote:CNN "white washes" Oregon shooter's face.

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It's on the Internet, so it must be true.
It's not real. CNN hasn't shown any images of gunman. Please consider the source of what you saw online.

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) | CNN | October 4, 2015
Snopes: False

Posters taking a moment to fact check, before rushing to post fake claims would be appreciated.

Confirmation bias is not an argument. Posters may strongly disagree, but let's do so intelligently and let other forums "go full retard" instead.
Ah Snopes actually exists on the internet.
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noddy wrote:such a forgettable film, with such a great line/scene.

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i think the cut above misses the best bits.
Dang I forgot all about that film. Thanks a lot of reminding me...
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Typhoon wrote:
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:lol: :lol: One of my favorite Monty Python clips. thank you.

Probably be easier to take Dennis seriously if he had a Portuguese accent, no?

Now tha ewv admitted your an oppressor, I thnk you may ave taken the firs step on the road to egalitarianism.... ;)
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... on-a-coon/
UPenn Professor Anthea Butler: Brain-Surgeon Ben Carson Deserves ‘Coon of the Year’ Award


by Jerome Hudson6 Oct 20150

Dr. Ben Carson deserves a “‘coon of the year’ award,” says a tweet from Anthea Butler, a University of Pennsylvania religious-studies professor and a frequent MSNBC guest.

Butler’s revealing invective was in response to a tweet from Daily Beast editor-at-large Goldie Taylor. That tweet highlighted a Sports Illustrated article in which Carson championed Americans’ right to fly flags — including the Confederate flag — that other Americans see as a symbol of hate.

Bulter, whose Twitter account is locked, apparently deleted the tweet attacking Dr. Carson. But not before someone captured a screen grab of it:

Anthea-Butler

The Urban Dictionary website defines “coon” as a “Insulting term for a black person.” The site treats the insult as similar to other words that are rarely published outside rap lyrics.

Prof. Justin McDaniel, chairman of the University of Pennsylvania’s religious-studies program, did not repond to Butler’s tweet but said she is a “valued colleague and faculty member.”

As for Dr. Carson, his spokeswoman, Deana Bass, told the Washington Examiner that Butler’s tweet “does not merit a response.”
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Doc wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... on-a-coon/
UPenn Professor Anthea Butler: Brain-Surgeon Ben Carson Deserves ‘Coon of the Year’ Award


by Jerome Hudson6 Oct 20150

Dr. Ben Carson deserves a “‘coon of the year’ award,” says a tweet from Anthea Butler, a University of Pennsylvania religious-studies professor and a frequent MSNBC guest.

Butler’s revealing invective was in response to a tweet from Daily Beast editor-at-large Goldie Taylor. That tweet highlighted a Sports Illustrated article in which Carson championed Americans’ right to fly flags — including the Confederate flag — that other Americans see as a symbol of hate.

Bulter, whose Twitter account is locked, apparently deleted the tweet attacking Dr. Carson. But not before someone captured a screen grab of it:

Anthea-Butler

The Urban Dictionary website defines “coon” as a “Insulting term for a black person.” The site treats the insult as similar to other words that are rarely published outside rap lyrics.

Prof. Justin McDaniel, chairman of the University of Pennsylvania’s religious-studies program, did not repond to Butler’s tweet but said she is a “valued colleague and faculty member.”

As for Dr. Carson, his spokeswoman, Deana Bass, told the Washington Examiner that Butler’s tweet “does not merit a response.”
No one on the left is condemning this In fact they are doing contortions trying to claim
We know you think you understand what you thought she said but we're not sure you realize that what you heard is not what she meant”
http://www.mediaite.com/online/ben-cars ... -the-year/
Ivy League Professor Didn’t Actually Call Ben Carson ‘Coon of the Year’
by Tommy Christopher | 4:05 pm, October 7th, 2015


The conservative media is in a lather because they think University of Pennsylvania Professor Anthea Butler called Dr. Ben Carson “Coon of the Year,” which obviously makes her racist. Last week, Butler responded to this (now-deleted) Goldie Taylor tweet:

goldie

The tweet linked to this article, about Ben Carson’s remarks on NASCAR fans flying the Confederate flag. This was Prof. Butler’s reply:

@antheabutler if only there was a coon of the year award



That reply caught the attention of conservative website Campus Reform, which contacted Prof. Butler for comment, at which time they claim she deleted the tweet. On Tuesday, the story broke big all over conservative media, with variations on the headline “Ivy League Prof. Calls Ben Carson a ‘Coon’.”

There are a few problems with this story, chief among them being that Professor Butler didn’t actually call Ben Carson anything, nor did she even recommend him for the titular award. Butler herself pointed this out before her Twitter account was locked, perhaps because conservatives decided to defend Ben Carson from her alleged racism by calling her everything from “Buckwheat” to “Jigaboo” to, yes, “coon” (here’s a sampling of those tweets).

Now, if you want to interpret Professor Butler’s tweet that way, you’re welcome to do so, but to state that interpretation as fact is just plain wrong. In fact, maybe you’re the racist for reading that tweet and assuming that she meant Ben Carson is a “coon.” There’s another much more relevant interpretation to be made.

Professor Butler’s tweet was in response to an article about Ben Carson’s remarks on NASCAR and the Confederate flag, which these conservative sites have characterized as a defense of private property. But Carson was specifically asked about Richard Petty‘s July comment that the debate over flying Confederate flags at NASCAR events was a “passing fancy,” and whether NASCAR fans should fly the flag:

He was cautious when asked to weigh in on Petty’s recent comments on the Confederate Flag, a symbol of slavery for many African-Americans and southern pride for whites. The flag is often flown prominently by NASCAR fans before and after races around the country. Petty this summer called the flag debate “a passing fancy.”

Carson told the AP that NASCAR fans should continue flying the flag “if it’s private property and that’s what they want to do.”

He also acknowledged the flag remains “a symbol of hate” for many black people and compared it to the Nazi swastika.

“Swastikas are a symbol of hate for some people, too. And yet they still exist in museums and places like that,” Carson said, describing the decision about flying the flag “a local issue.” ”If it’s a majority of people in that area who want it to fly, I certainly wouldn’t take it down.”

Despite the fact that NASCAR has long banned the Confederate flag from use in any official capacity, and has been trying to get fans not to display the flag at races since the tragic mass murder in Charleston, Carson says it’s okay with him. The sentence in Professor Butler’s tweet could have been completed in any number of ways, including “If only there was a ‘coon of the year’ award…Ben Carson could tell NASCAR to hold the ceremony, as long as it’s a majority of people in the area who want to give out the award, and it was on private property.”

Too many characters, but you get the idea.

As it turns out, the only official “Coon of the Year” award I could track down didn’t go to Ben Carson, it went to this cat, who was The International Cat Association’s 2014 Maine Coon of the Year. Unofficially, Carson’s name has been bandied about as a candidate for the fictional award, which brings me to another problem with the conservative outrage over this story.

In almost every story that conservatives have written about Professor Butler’s tweet, they have included a fairly consistent definition of the word “coon.” Here are some examples:

Campus Reform: The word “coon” is an offensive term to slander Africans, deriving from the Portuguese word “barracoos,” which is a hut-like dwelling used to store slaves during auctions, according to Online Etymology.

Breitbart: The Urban Dictionary website defines “coon” as a “Insulting term for a black person.” The site treats the insult as similar to other words that are rarely published outside rap lyrics.

Daily Caller: “Coon” is a common slur for blacks, though it’s worth noting Butler is black herself.

These definitions are all perfectly accurate as it relates to white people using the word, but among black people, it has a completely different, much more complex meaning. When a white person calls someone a “coon,” they are slurring all black people, but within the black community, the term is not a racial slur, and it’s not interchangeable with the multi-purpose n-word. It is a provocative (and yes, offensive) social and/or political critique that covers a wide range of behaviors. Here’s how the website Coonwatch defines the term:

In the historical racist context of the USA, the coon was/is portrayed as a lazy, easily frightened, chronically idle, inarticulate, buffoon whose sole purpose in life is too amuse those in the dominant society. The coon was/is labeled as a childish adult; albeit a good-for-little adult.

Eliminate that definition… because this website is for us and by us and we DO NOT SUPPORT THAT RACIST DEFINITION.
We will keep an eye on those whose actions (intentional or not) inflict harm on people of color. We want to watch those who live by the coon code of conduct.
So what can we do…

Identify them
Track their transgressions
Stop supporting them
Ignore what they say

Every person listed may or may not live their life by the coon code of conduct, however if they are non white and they have clearly demonstrated anti black actions they will be listed.

The definition of “coonery” is as subjective as it is broad. The Fox megahit Empire was singled out by professor and social commentator Boyce D. Watkins as an example of “coonery,” as have other forms of black entertainment, but so has the real-life affect of Cleveland kidnapping hero Charles Ramsey. On the latter point, the dissent over that label demonstrates the complexity of the word:

The message here is clear: Poor Blacks embarrass bourgeoisie Blacks. The evocation here is…Please, per Vice President Biden, only put the clean and perfectly coiffed Blacks on TV.

If the man who rescued these women had resembled Denzel Washington or Will Smith, all of Ramsey’s critics would be bursting with race pride. But bourgeois black folk don’t abide the unwashed horde of poor black folk, and that’s actually nothing new.

The term can also apply to those who reinforce stereotypes, rather than enacting them, by practicing “respectability politics,” or who support policies that are viewed as harmful to black people, or who are seen as giving cover to racists by validating racist behavior. The common thread is a result that ingratiates the subject to white people, while harming the interests of black people. The term doesn’t have universal currency within the black community, but it is universally understood. It’s intended to be provocative, offensive, and even insulting, but it’s not a racist term.

None of that should really matter, though, to the conservatives who are hyperventilating about this, especially those who support Ben Carson. Why, just the other day, he was rejecting political correctness even as he smeared the victims of the Oregon mass shooting as complicit in their own slaughter. This effort by the conservative media is nothing if not an attempt to police black language, a practice they supposedly reject with every fiber of their being.

It’a free country, though, so if you want to be offended by what Professor Butler said, go ahead. Just be offended by what she actually said, not what you imagine she said, and just know that no matter how many times she tweets the word “coon,” it’s still racist when white people say it.
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Doc wrote:
Typhoon wrote:
Doc wrote:CNN "white washes" Oregon shooter's face.

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It's on the Internet, so it must be true.
It's not real. CNN hasn't shown any images of gunman. Please consider the source of what you saw online.

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) | CNN | October 4, 2015
Snopes: False

Posters taking a moment to fact check, before rushing to post fake claims would be appreciated.

Confirmation bias is not an argument. Posters may strongly disagree, but let's do so intelligently and let other forums "go full retard" instead.
Ah Snopes actually exists on the internet.
Indeed. And they provide an essential service.
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