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Doc wrote:.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-sends-m ... 15620.html
Iran sends a message with missile strike in Syria
Message: "We have little missiles"

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From above link :

" Riyadh must know that all of its oil regions are within the range of Iranian missiles," he said.

Would hate now being "short Oil" .. Brent @ $ 45.


Mr. Perfect, you in "option" business, maybe time to buy some "calls"

Sheikhs already with one foot out of the door. :lol:

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Like Rome,
America Ripe for Tyranny



:lol: :lol: .. folks, a good reading


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Like Rome,
America Ripe for Tyranny



:lol: :lol: .. folks, a good reading


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For a potential tyrant, Trump is certainly having trouble implementing his agenda either by legislation or executive decree.

If there is one thing that America appears ripe for then it is political gridlock.
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Typhoon wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Like Rome,
America Ripe for Tyranny



:lol: :lol: .. folks, a good reading


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For a potential tyrant, Trump is certainly having trouble implementing his agenda either by legislation or executive decree.

If there is one thing that America appears ripe for then it is political gridlock.
Sweet and delicious gridlock..... :) Anytime one party gains the upper hand, they either fall prey to infighting, or they implement their agenda and rapidly get voted back into a minority party. Merikans love underdogs!

Repubs may have finally found the secret to permanent majority status.

By making their case against (HAHAHA) govt control of the health care industry so poorly since 2008, I suspect they will be tarred and feathered with the health care disaster brush for many years.
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As long as the filibuster and other antique parliamentary routines continue, only the permanent government gets a majority.

Any work falling under the usually risible "bi-partisan" jargon is just shorthand for "making sure to spread the blame for the swindle". :)
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Typhoon wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Like Rome,
America Ripe for Tyranny



:lol: :lol: .. folks, a good reading


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For a potential tyrant, Trump is certainly having trouble implementing his agenda either by legislation or executive decree.

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Most nasty "Tyranny" is the creeping one .. takes time .. bit by bit the safeguards are "dismantled", other-thinkers pushed out .. things become "redefined" .. leading to changing of mindset, ethics and and .. bad things become the "norm"

Already happening

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The Week | Senate Democrats voted overwhelmingly last Thursday for new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea, days after their House counterparts had also done so.

Remarkable how some in the US are so eager to become involved in the Muddled East's sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
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Typhoon wrote:The Week | Senate Democrats voted overwhelmingly last Thursday for new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea, days after their House counterparts had also done so.

Remarkable how some in the US are so eager to become involved in the Muddled East's sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
The AIPAC/SA alliance peeks out again.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Typhoon wrote:The Week | Senate Democrats voted overwhelmingly last Thursday for new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea, days after their House counterparts had also done so.

Remarkable how some in the US are so eager to become involved in the Muddled East's sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
The AIPAC/SA alliance peeks out again.
In that case, the alliance has cost the US trillions of dollars and the lives of many soldiers without any tangible benefit for the US.
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Typhoon wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Typhoon wrote:The Week | Senate Democrats voted overwhelmingly last Thursday for new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea, days after their House counterparts had also done so.

Remarkable how some in the US are so eager to become involved in the Muddled East's sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
The AIPAC/SA alliance peeks out again.
In that case, the alliance has cost the US trillions of dollars and the lives of many soldiers without any tangible benefit for the US.
being in control of the oil market, the money market and making trillions of dollars in millitary contracts is probably considered the tangible benefit - its truly hard to quantify what is costs and what is investment in all that money.

some also like to argue that the known-known of saudi sponsored terrorism is a less of a worry than what comes after its collapse.
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Typhoon wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Typhoon wrote:The Week | Senate Democrats voted overwhelmingly last Thursday for new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea, days after their House counterparts had also done so.

Remarkable how some in the US are so eager to become involved in the Muddled East's sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
The AIPAC/SA alliance peeks out again.
In that case, the alliance has cost the US trillions of dollars and the lives of many soldiers without any tangible benefit for the US.
The petrodollar was a tangible world-class benefit. Probably the best benefit ever. Now that it is mortally wounded and SA is running out of oil the various factions in the ME are starting to appear.

The Russian sanctions will expose EU factions, and the Iran/NK sanctions will reveal something about China ( no idea what). Not even a hint from Britain and how they figure into everything.
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Pat Buchanan
Trump’s Russia Policy Being Hijacked


In crafting the platform in Cleveland on which Donald Trump would run, America Firsters inflicted a major defeat on the War Party.

The platform committee rejected a plank to pull us deeper into Ukraine, by successfully opposing new U.S. arms transfers to Kiev.

Improved relations with Russia were what candidate Trump had promised, and what Americans would vote for in November.

Yet, this week, The Wall Street Journal reports:

“The U.S. Pentagon and State Department have devised plans to supply Ukraine with antitank missiles and other weaponry and are seeking White House approval … as Kiev battles Russia-backed separatists … Defense Secretary Mattis has endorsed the plan.”

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noddy wrote:
Typhoon wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Typhoon wrote:The Week | Senate Democrats voted overwhelmingly last Thursday for new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea, days after their House counterparts had also done so.

Remarkable how some in the US are so eager to become involved in the Muddled East's sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
The AIPAC/SA alliance peeks out again.
In that case, the alliance has cost the US trillions of dollars and the lives of many soldiers without any tangible benefit for the US.
being in control of the oil market, the money market and making trillions of dollars in millitary contracts is probably considered the tangible benefit - its truly hard to quantify what is costs and what is investment in all that money.

some also like to argue that the known-known of saudi sponsored terrorism is a less of a worry than what comes after its collapse.
I'm a bit skeptical.

US Weapons Exports End 2016 at $33.6 Billion

Not quite trillions compared to the costs of the Iraq war and ongoing Afghan war.

The war in Afghanistan has so far cost $33,000 per citizen. And will not end well.

The Afghan War Doesn't Need to Be Privatized—It Needs to Be Ended
The cost would be $10 billion a year rather than the $40 billion we pay annually now.
By comparison, the underwear gnomes business plan is a work of genius.

The US today is self sufficient in fossil fuels.

As for Saudi Arabia, hard to imagine how the situation in the Muddled East could get worse with the regime's collapse.
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