The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby YMix » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:36 pm

“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Doc » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:33 pm

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With Ca-nada's inherent racism against people from California (A state with a bigger population than Ca-nada) it will never happen.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby YMix » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:35 am

It’s too damn ironic.

The flamboyant founder of the Rent Is Too Damn High Party has endorsed moneybags landlord Donald Trump for president.

Jimmy McMillan made the stunning announcement Friday.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Typhoon » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:11 pm

YMix wrote:


Brilliant.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Doc » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:58 pm

Typhoon wrote:
YMix wrote:


Brilliant.


Coming from a country where "None of the above" is a legal candidate.... :D
Candidate's legal name change puts 'none of the above' on ballot in Canada
Published January 30, 2016 FoxNews.com

The ballot to fill a legislative seat in Canada next month includes none of the above—and it’s a real person.

Sheldon Bergson, 46, had his name legally changed to Above Znoneofthe and is now a candidate for the Ontario legislature, the CBC reports. The election is Feb. 11.

The ballot lists candidates in alphabetical order by surname so his name will be the 10th of the 10 candidates as Znoneofthe Above, according to CBC.

“I’m aiming for all of the people who don’t normally vote,” Znoneofthe said. “I thought one of these days we should get ‘none of the above’ on the ballot.

The bank customer service rep has run for public office before as a National Party and independent candidate without success.

Znoneofthe vows to keep his new name if he is elected.

One of his opponents is running on the line of the None of The Above Party.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01/30 ... anada.html
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Doc » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:01 pm

YMix wrote:
It’s too damn ironic.

The flamboyant founder of the Rent Is Too Damn High Party has endorsed moneybags landlord Donald Trump for president.

Jimmy McMillan made the stunning announcement Friday.


Not ironic at all given that progressives made the rent to damn high through rent controls limiting the number of available apartments.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Typhoon » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:53 am

Doc wrote:
YMix wrote:


With Ca-nada's inherent racism against people from California (A state with a bigger population than Ca-nada) it will never happen.


Took me a while, but I got it.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Typhoon » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:55 am

So there is an event, the Iowa Caucuses, going on now.

Going by memory, this is an event where the candidates have delegates to the conventions selected?
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:02 am

Typhoon wrote:So there is an event, the Iowa Caucuses, going on now.

Going by memory, this is an event where the candidates have delegates to the conventions selected?

Yup. Iowa is the first one but is not a bellwhether or particularly important. The dowdy girl who shows up at the dance early and helps make the punch.

I'm hoping Sanders or Trump labels one of these strip club money blasters 'Goldman Sachs' and unloads on H at a debate.

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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:35 am

So now we get to spend the next several days going over how 'important' Iowa is, until the next primary, where we forget about the results and move on.

I curse those Iowans who have resurrected Marco Rubio.

Why are we addicted to these first term Senators? We really got to stop with that.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:20 am

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The real revolution in Iowa was "Sanders" .. Hillary pretty much lost

But .. Sanders "central argument", political campaign financing overhaul, a non starter

Congress and Senate must change that law, they ain't (no matter what) .. president has nothing to do with that

Congress and Senate "representing" the SPECIAL INTEREST .. they no represent Joe .. this pretty much accepted (and in US constitution)

There is "ZERO" chance American lawmakers (Senate and Congress) be (really) elected by Joe .. Zero chance

This definition of "Capitalism" .. Capitalism means people with money decide things .. Joe in reality (politically) nobody .. if Joe does not play ball, big boys bring in recession (if needed, depression) till Joe cries uncle .. understood and agreed by both sides.

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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:00 am

I was actually worked up about it. Very interesting results. Both Cruz and Rubio are up over Clinton in RCP. If the choices are now between Rubio/Cruz/Trump that is a good thing for me.

I'm very pleased that Democrats are deadlocked between a Socialist and a career Criminal. I can't think of anything better to represent the Democrat Party.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:05 am

Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

The real revolution in Iowa was "Sanders" .. Hillary pretty much lost

No. Democrats do not practice democracy. In Democrats, they have "Superdelegates" (pls google) so if Sanders wins majority of votes Hillary will still win. HIllary should be nominee.

But .. Sanders "central argument", political campaign financing overhaul, a non starter

Trump best candidate for that.

Congress and Senate must change that law, they ain't (no matter what) .. president has nothing to do with that

Not really, if people outside system start winning big and making change, no reason to give money more. It's in the hands of the people, always has been.

Congress and Senate "representing" the SPECIAL INTEREST .. they no represent Joe .. this pretty much accepted (and in US constitution)

Where is it in the Constitution.

There is "ZERO" chance American lawmakers (Senate and Congress) be (really) elected by Joe .. Zero chance

Who is doing the voting, do you think.

This definition of "Capitalism" .. Capitalism means people with money decide things ..

:D :D :D

No, this called "human condition", been going on long before anybody said the word "capitalism". Capitalism about private property rights and free market prices, etc. Rich having power goes back, all the way, everywhere you look.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:08 am

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:So now we get to spend the next several days going over how 'important' Iowa is, until the next primary, where we forget about the results and move on.

I curse those Iowans who have resurrected Marco Rubio.

Why are we addicted to these first term Senators? We really got to stop with that.

This is what is important about Iowa.

1) Trump is not inevitable, and we may winnowed down to 3 finally.

2) HRC is going to move left, damaging her in the general

That's about it.

Why don't you tell us who you endorse.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:47 am

3 of the top 4 GOP are ethnic minorities while the Democrats are lily white.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:52 pm

Fascinating election. A lot of rules being broken, but not the ones anyone was expecting.

The GOP picture is far more complex than the Democrat one, but the most interesting theory I have heard regarding the whole night is that Trump and Clinton underperformed because Iowa voters didn't want a coronation, that is if either had won outright the nomination would have been effectively over at that point.

I think HRC is still the likely nominee, the GOP side is totally up in the air. I'm glad though that 2 of the 3 GOP guys are already ahead of Clinton at RCP averages.

Trump vs Clinton could easily end up with Trump winning. Clinton has more bombs ahead for her, a failing economy and emails at the top of the list, and if Trump is on his game he can end her candidacy at the first debate.

I endorsed Rubio, he is probably a lock in the general, but my heart is with Trump. The greatest potential is with Trump.
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Typhoon » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:08 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:I was actually worked up about it. Very interesting results. Both Cruz and Rubio are up over Clinton in RCP. If the choices are now between Rubio/Cruz/Trump that is a good thing for me.


How Panglossian. :lol:
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Alexis » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:48 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:3 of the top 4 GOP are ethnic minorities while the Democrats are lily white.


Huh?

Having two parents from Cuba (Rubio), or even just a Cuban father (Cruz) is enough to be from an "ethnic minority"? :?
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Typhoon » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:46 pm

Alexis wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:3 of the top 4 GOP are ethnic minorities while the Democrats are lily white.


Huh?

Having two parents from Cuba (Rubio), or even just a Cuban father (Cruz) is enough to be from an "ethnic minority"? :?


No. It's the born in Canada bit. :wink:
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:17 pm

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Rubio is Neoconservatives and business-class Republicans hope


. . Rubio’s organization is not only his campaign but the Republican establishment and conservative movement as well. He can even count on the organized power of the mainstream media aiding him, for while the old media may dislike Republicans in general, they particularly loathe right-wing populist Republicans like Cruz and Trump.



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BTW, where was JEB ? ? ? .. has he quit ?


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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:27 pm

Heracleum Persicum wrote:BTW, where was JEB ? ? ? .. has he quit ?

His boyfriend Goldman Sachs dumped him last week.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-0 ... ailed-bush
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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:04 pm

Nonc Hilaire wrote:.

Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

BTW, where was JEB ? ? ? .. has he quit ?

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His boyfriend Goldman Sachs dumped him last week.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-0 ... ailed-bush

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Hmmm .. interesting

Seems, Wall Street crooks and Neocons thought better put all chips on Rubio

Sanders, Gooooooooo


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Re: The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:41 pm

Alexis wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:3 of the top 4 GOP are ethnic minorities while the Democrats are lily white.


Huh?

Having two parents from Cuba (Rubio), or even just a Cuban father (Cruz) is enough to be from an "ethnic minority"? :?

Yes. They are both Hispanic. Carson is black.
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