The eternal US elections - 2016 edition

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400,000 Afghan students in Iranian schools

TEHRAN, Dec. 20 (MNA) – Minister of education said 400 thousand Afghan students are studying in Iran in the current Iranian educational year.

Iran’s Minister of Education Ali Asghar Fani stressed that $670 are spent on the education of each student during one school year; “in the current academic year, nearly 800 million dollars have been dedicated to the education of foreign students in Iranian schools,” he noted.

The education minister further asserted that “for the current academic year around 48 thousand Afghan students have enrolled in Iranian schools and the figure has become greater compared to last year.”

The managing director of Association for Protection of Refugee Women and Children (HAMI) had said earlier that the ministry’s figures on education costs of Afghan students are ambiguous and only 10 per cent of illegal Afghan children have managed to enroll in schools. “Everyone is responsible for their words and we are not accountable for what they others’ comments,” Fani reacted to the comments.

Based on an order by Leader of the Islamic Revolution ayatollah Khamenei, Afghan students enjoy free education the same way Iranian students do.

:lol: :lol: :lol: .. and you complaining about Mexican children coming to US.

Come, on, Mr. Perfect, (and Doc and Monster) come on

For Children, there should be no legal or illegal immigrant .. take them all in, and take care of them.

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Oddly enough, those who are constantly splitting people into specific herds in order to win elections (gain power & retain power) seem to really suck at uniting people in common causes.

Strange.....
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:(Afghans in Iran)
Fact checking, Level 1 - 5 minutes total.

Afghans in Iran
According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), there are 950,000 registered Afghan citizens living in Iran. However, Iran's Ministry of Interior estimates that the total number of Afghans in Iran is around 3 million. The ones designated refugees are under the care of the UNHCR, and provided legal status by the Government of Iran. They cannot obtain Iranian citizenship or permanent residency, and live in Iran under time-limited condition of stay.

Iran opened its border gates to Afghans escaping from the Soviet war in Afghanistan and the subsequent civil war but they are now asked to leave the country. Many face forceful deportation every year, which began in 2006 when about 146,387 undocumented Afghans were deported.

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Since early 2002, more than 5 million Afghans have been repatriated through the UNHCR from both Pakistan and Iran back to their native country, Afghanistan. 935,600 were still remaining according to the UNHCR. Between 2010 and 2011, a total of 24,000 Afghan refugees left Iran and returned to Afghanistan. In 2012, around 173,000 Afghans were forcefully deported. By the end of 2013, over 103,086 more were deported. Many of the deportees complained of torture and other abuses by the Iranian police. As of 2014, there are 950,000 registered Afghan citizens living in Iran.

(...)

The Afghan refugees have come to Iran since the 1980s, which included children and adolescents. Many were born in Iran over the last 30 years but unable to gain citizenship due to the Iranian law on immigration.

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Some Afghan men married Iranian women during their residence in Iran; however, under Iranian nationality law, the children of such marriages are not recognised as Iranian citizens, and it is also more difficult for the men to gain Iranian citizenship than for Afghan women married to Iranian men.

Although Iranian authorities have made efforts to educate Afghan children, Human Rights Watch report that many undocumented Afghan children face bureaucratic obstacles that prevent their children from attending school, in violation of international law. Iranian law limits Afghans who have permission as refugees to work to a limited number of dangerous and poorly paid manual labor jobs, regardless of their education and skills.

The Iranian government has also failed to take necessary steps to protect its Afghan population from physical violence linked to rising anti-foreigner sentiment in Iran, or to hold those responsible accountable.

Laws governing status and rights of refugees and other immigrants in Iran are, how to put it politely, quite different from the laws prevalent in European countries or in the USA...
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Alexis wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:(Afghans in Iran)
Fact checking, Level 1 - 5 minutes total.

Afghans in Iran
According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), there are 950,000 registered Afghan citizens living in Iran. However, Iran's Ministry of Interior estimates that the total number of Afghans in Iran is around 3 million. The ones designated refugees are under the care of the UNHCR, and provided legal status by the Government of Iran. They cannot obtain Iranian citizenship or permanent residency, and live in Iran under time-limited condition of stay.

Iran opened its border gates to Afghans escaping from the Soviet war in Afghanistan and the subsequent civil war but they are now asked to leave the country. Many face forceful deportation every year, which began in 2006 when about 146,387 undocumented Afghans were deported.

(...)

Since early 2002, more than 5 million Afghans have been repatriated through the UNHCR from both Pakistan and Iran back to their native country, Afghanistan. 935,600 were still remaining according to the UNHCR. Between 2010 and 2011, a total of 24,000 Afghan refugees left Iran and returned to Afghanistan. In 2012, around 173,000 Afghans were forcefully deported. By the end of 2013, over 103,086 more were deported. Many of the deportees complained of torture and other abuses by the Iranian police. As of 2014, there are 950,000 registered Afghan citizens living in Iran.

(...)

The Afghan refugees have come to Iran since the 1980s, which included children and adolescents. Many were born in Iran over the last 30 years but unable to gain citizenship due to the Iranian law on immigration.

(...)

Some Afghan men married Iranian women during their residence in Iran; however, under Iranian nationality law, the children of such marriages are not recognised as Iranian citizens, and it is also more difficult for the men to gain Iranian citizenship than for Afghan women married to Iranian men.

Although Iranian authorities have made efforts to educate Afghan children, Human Rights Watch report that many undocumented Afghan children face bureaucratic obstacles that prevent their children from attending school, in violation of international law. Iranian law limits Afghans who have permission as refugees to work to a limited number of dangerous and poorly paid manual labor jobs, regardless of their education and skills.

The Iranian government has also failed to take necessary steps to protect its Afghan population from physical violence linked to rising anti-foreigner sentiment in Iran, or to hold those responsible accountable.

Laws governing status and rights of refugees and other immigrants in Iran are, how to put it politely, quite different from the laws prevalent in European countries or in the USA...

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YMix, WiKi can be edited .. pretty much all you read in Western controlled "private" stuff, like WiKi , is "Zionist doctored", Zionist edited .. to build a "evil" image of Iran.

Best to know whether Afghans in Iran are tortured or treated badly and all other stuff in this rispect, is, look what UN refugee agency says :


UNHCR Expert Praises Iran's Exceptional Hospitality to Foreign Refugees

UN Praises Iran's Refugee Aids, Policies

"My very deep appreciation and gratitude for what has always been a very generous refugee policy in Iran anchored in the best of Iranian hospitality and Islamic tradition," said Guterres.

UNHCR - Final Report

Head of the UN refugee agency (UNHCR) Sub Office in Kerman, Giusepppe Di Caro praised Iran’s performance in hosting and aiding foreign refugees, specially the Afghans and Iraqis.

UNHCR official: Iran’s supports for foreign refugees “Exemplary”


Last 35 yrs, since USSR invaded Afghanistan, Iran took millions of Afghan refugee, housed them, fed them, educated their children, probably More than 10 million Afghans were in Iran for yrs for some of those 35 yrs.

Now, there are 1 million Afghans in Iran as refugee, but, probably more than 3 million more as illegal.

Anybody born in Iran, according to Iranian law (same as in US), is Iranian citizen, no matter Afghan or Japanese .. many Japanese staff in Iran (stationed in Iran with their Japanese family), when they had children, the children got Iranian passport too :lol:


All the above means, all Afghan elite, the technocrats, the engineers, teachers, government employee, military personal .. all .. have been educated in Iran

YMix, when anything about Iran, check different sources .. that is what I do


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Alexis wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:(Afghans in Iran)
Fact checking, Level 1 - 5 minutes total.

Afghans in Iran

YMix, WiKi can be edited .. pretty much all you read in Western controlled "private" stuff, like WiKi , is "Zionist doctored", Zionist edited .. to build a "evil" image of Iran.
So it's Je... Zionists who have invented all these informations.

I see.
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Alexis wrote:
So it's Je... Zionists who have invented all these informations.

I see.
It's about damn time. It's not like this has not been pointed out to all of us before.

One can either splain things well, or often. Often is easier........

Things will be better when the Joos install a new POTUS....
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Simple Minded wrote:One can either splain things well, or often. Often is easier........

Things will be better when the Joos install a new POTUS....
Jews... or Hairdressers? :mrgreen:
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Alexis wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Alexis wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:(Afghans in Iran)
Fact checking, Level 1 - 5 minutes total.

Afghans in Iran

YMix, WiKi can be edited .. pretty much all you read in Western controlled "private" stuff, like WiKi , is "Zionist doctored", Zionist edited .. to build a "evil" image of Iran.
So it's Je... Zionists who have invented all these informations.

I see.

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Everybody edits everything to their own liking .. reading historical stuff in WiKi, things that I am intimately familiar with, I can easily say which "special interest" edited it, from the spin given to the content.

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a) it was never ever an iranian that did it.
b) if it was an iranian it wasnt a real one, it was one of those `stan types who live in iran
c) case b is usually setup by the juice.
d) see c

if you re-read wiki with these rules then reality becomes much clearer.
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Was watching last Democratic TV debate

Real funny this guy, Bernie Sanders

He sayin Americans can't meet ends, rich becoming richer, poor becoming poorer, but, Trump saying he has the solution .. Trump solution is Mexicans are rapers and criminals (kick them out) and Muslims are terrorists (stop them entering US) and in the meantime cut taxes for the rich :lol: :lol:


A real Zoooooo


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trump and bernie are the best representatives of current culture, their is nothing crazy about it.

bernie speaks to the naive socialists who want to hear sugar coated lies about how government will look after them beacuse they are special snowflakes.

trump speaks to the naive whites who liked america as it was and want to hear sugar coated lies about how government will stop the world turning america into a shithole like mexico or the middle east.
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Alexis wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:One can either splain things well, or often. Often is easier........

Things will be better when the Joos install a new POTUS....
Jews... or Hairdressers? :mrgreen:
Everybody know Joose control Big Hair industry. come on, come on.

What a disaster.
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noddy wrote:a) it was never ever an iranian that did it.
b) if it was an iranian it wasnt a real one, it was one of those `stan types who live in iran
c) case b is usually setup by the juice.
d) see c

if you re-read wiki with these rules then reality becomes much clearer.
Joos are only doing what the Reptilians tell them to do. Just like Iranians, Aussies, and Merikans. Cut them some slack.
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Simple Minded wrote:
Alexis wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:One can either splain things well, or often. Often is easier........

Things will be better when the Joos install a new POTUS....
Jews... or Hairdressers? :mrgreen:
Everybody know Joose control Big Hair industry. come on, come on.

What a disaster.
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Reason | Admit It. You Just Want Your Own Dictator
This incessant clamoring by voters and punditry for better "leaders" and more "leadership" is one of the most unsavory, dangerous and un-American tendencies in political discourse.
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Typhoon wrote:Reason | Admit It. You Just Want Your Own Dictator
This incessant clamoring by voters and punditry for better "leaders" and more "leadership" is one of the most unsavory, dangerous and un-American tendencies in political discourse.
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In contemporary American parlance—and maybe it's always been this way—a "leader" typically describes someone who will aggressively push your preferred policies. How much do Americans really care about what this aggressiveness entails?
That's what I told Mr. Perfect. The problem with Obama is not that he doesn't kill people, since Mr. Perfect himself took the trouble to point out drone killings and various wars. The problem is Obama doesn't go on TV every week to say: "I ordered people killed and it feels great! Woooooo!"
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Typhoon wrote:Reason | Admit It. You Just Want Your Own Dictator
This incessant clamoring by voters and punditry for better "leaders" and more "leadership" is one of the most unsavory, dangerous and un-American tendencies in political discourse.
Thank You VERY Much for your post, Typhoon

And for the link.

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I think Americans now realize the government is not credible and is actively working against their interests, but most are not able to come to terms with it. A national Stockholm syndrome working its way out with play therapy using Republican and Democratic action figures.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:I think Americans now realize the government is not credible and is actively working against their interests, but most are not able to come to terms with it. A national Stockholm syndrome working its way out with play therapy using Republican and Democratic action figures.
bingo.

DC vs. America is very similar to Brussels vs. Europe. Republican or Democrat, left or right, little difference. Representation vs. accumulation of power. Old adversarial game.

I think for many Americans, it is difficult to feel any connection to either party in DC, since both are so very unimportant in one's day to day life, unless one is on the receiving end of Federal money. Unless one is voting for a personal paycheck or a meal ticket, what difference does it make whether brand D or brand R are in power?

Couple that with each person votes only for POTUS, one Representative, and two Senators. 4/536 isn't a very big fraction. Not hard at all to see why DC appears to be a foreign nation to many.
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Typhoon wrote:Reason | Admit It. You Just Want Your Own Dictator
This incessant clamoring by voters and punditry for better "leaders" and more "leadership" is one of the most unsavory, dangerous and un-American tendencies in political discourse.
Thanks for posting Typhoon. I was wondering when I would encounter a publication that noted the similarities between Trump worship and Obama worship, or any past POTUS candidate as savior worship.

As many have pointed out, lots of Americans don't vote for POTUS, they vote for deity, pope, magician, Midas, Mommy & Daddy, free lunch, square circles, etc.

The "Throw me in chains but feed me!" mentality that desires "saving" is always present.

Those who wish to assume adult responsibility, and to be treated as adults, with all the inherent risks of personal reward and personal loss........ are labeled racist, sexist, Nazi, etc. Children always view hardship as unearned, and any bad day as the worst day in history.

The only "bad parents" are the ones who don't protect you from the results of your own actions. The upcoming teenage years will be difficult for much of the West.
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