noddy wrote:they would take forever, it would be over long before they arrived but it doesnt effect the debate because its so rare - my area is quite violent and on the edge of the middle class belt, i might get a home invasion, without guns and i might end up beaten up on the floor - it happens.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:What is the cop reach per square foot like there? How long would you wait for some kind of emergency service to get from Point A to the Point You're At?noddy wrote:that argument only makes sense in murkia.
in my country we just dont have the same levels of violence to make it work - our criminals nearly always only kill other criminals and when they cockup and kill joe pulbic the police swat teams swat them
not freedom (tm) and yes, if we had a megalomaniac takeover it might be of concern, however we havent had one of those, so its not.
im not convinced me owning a gun would make that big a difference and im also not convinced i couldnt get one if and when i felt like i actually needed/wanted one.
the other argument americans like is if guns are banned only criminals have guns, well, thats true, and megalomaniac takeover makes criminals of us all.
'Round here, it would take an half and hour to 45 minutes for an ambulance to arrive. It'd probably take the police about an hour to get here.
How much does that effect the gun debate?
i also have a big meat cleaver (aka battle axe) and cast iron frypan (aka war hammer) hanging in the kitchen, for when im not liking whats knocking at the door.
the murder rate is very low and once you get rid of the crimes of passion and the criminal upon criminal stats, its almost irrelevant.
how does your country count homicides statistically?
What I mean by that is: is every charge of homicide counted in the stats or do they simply count those attached to a guilty conviction in a court of law?