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President Trump’s Lies
the Definitive List




Mother of all "Fake News" .. This not the "Definitive List" :lol: :lol:


MP, you have the mike.


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.



President Trump’s Lies
the Definitive List




Mother of all "Fake News" .. This not the "Definitive List" :lol: :lol:


MP, you have the mike.


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Hmmmm..... hidden behind a pay wall rather than a free PSA. Something going on at NYT.

NYT only interested in saving their rich subscribers!!! That's RACIST!

What a disaster! How did this happen to our beloved America HP? How? :P
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Simple Minded wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.



President Trump’s Lies
the Definitive List




Mother of all "Fake News" .. This not the "Definitive List" :lol: :lol:


MP, you have the mike.


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Hmmmm..... hidden behind a pay wall rather than a free PSA. Something going on at NYT.

NYT only interested in saving their rich subscribers !!! That's RACIST !

What a disaster! How did this happen to our beloved America HP? How? :P


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"rich subscribers" :lol:

I pay C$ 20 (U$ 13) a month for "digital subscription" (less than cost of 2 pack of Marlborough cigarettes) , use it on my cell phone, mini iPad and Apple Air.

CS has warned not to post the article .. but googling "T r u m p ’ s L i e s" should do the trick

Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

Worth reading


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.



President Trump’s Lies
the Definitive List




Mother of all "Fake News" .. This not the "Definitive List" :lol: :lol:


MP, you have the mike.
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Where is their list about Clinton, obama
Censorship isn't necessary
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.



President Trump’s Lies
the Definitive List




Mother of all "Fake News" .. This not the "Definitive List" :lol: :lol:


MP, you have the mike.
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Where is their list about Clinton, obama
they never compiled either. Afraid of losing HP's subscription.....

after all according to the experts......
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.



President Trump’s Lies
the Definitive List




Mother of all "Fake News" .. This not the "Definitive List" :lol: :lol:


MP, you have the mike.

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Where is their list about Clinton, obama


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Valid (and true) point

Ayatollahs saying since long long time American lies, say our beloved Persia should not believe America


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They also should no longer call for death to America.
Censorship isn't necessary
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Mr. Perfect wrote:They also should no longer call for death to America.
Iranians call for death to anything that ticks them off. It is the Farsi equivalent of up yours. They call for death to traffc lights fcol.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:.
Mr. Perfect wrote:.

They also should no longer call for death to America.

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Iranians call for death to anything that ticks them off. It is the Farsi equivalent of up yours. They call for death to traffc lights fcol.

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True

In farsi "Marg bar" means "down with" (although "Marg" means "death") .. Farsi language not like German language "exact", that is why Iranians must have an "expert" explain them what "Rumi" means saying what he saying .. same word can mean many things depending in what context, or sentencing or in combination of other word it is used ... "Marg bar America" means "down with America" .. in farsi, at present political context, it means "non of your business calling for "regime change" in our beloved Persia.

Persia no ZuLu republic that any power can call for a "regime change" .. as explained here many times, Iranians consider themselves much more a "superior civilization" than West let alone America.

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Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:They also should no longer call for death to America.
Iranians call for death to anything that ticks them off. It is the Farsi equivalent of up yours. They call for death to traffc lights fcol.
It might be time for them to rethink that.
Censorship isn't necessary
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:.

They also should no longer call for death to America.

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Iranians call for death to anything that ticks them off. It is the Farsi equivalent of up yours. They call for death to traffc lights fcol.
It might be time for them to rethink that.

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fact on the ground do not support that :lol:

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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:They also should no longer call for death to America.
Iranians call for death to anything that ticks them off. It is the Farsi equivalent of up yours. They call for death to traffc lights fcol.
It might be time for them to rethink that.
Right-e-o. Like rethinking the US usage of BS or MF because of descriptive inaccuracy.
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Foreign minister Javad Zarif Twitter account : @JZarif

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.



President Trump’s Lies
the Definitive List




Mother of all "Fake News" .. This not the "Definitive List" :lol: :lol:


MP, you have the mike.


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Hmmmm..... hidden behind a pay wall rather than a free PSA. Something going on at NYT.

NYT only interested in saving their rich subscribers !!! That's RACIST !

What a disaster! How did this happen to our beloved America HP? How? :P


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"rich subscribers" :lol:

I pay C$ 20 (U$ 13) a month for "digital subscription" (less than cost of 2 pack of Marlborough cigarettes) , use it on my cell phone, mini iPad and Apple Air.

CS has warned not to post the article .. but googling "T r u m p ’ s L i e s" should do the trick

Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

Worth reading


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HP,
Coast2coastam.com is great news source also. Many stories msm afraid to cover.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:.
Mr. Perfect wrote:.

They also should no longer call for death to America.

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Iranians call for death to anything that ticks them off. It is the Farsi equivalent of up yours. They call for death to traffc lights fcol.

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True

In farsi "Marg bar" means "down with" (although "Marg" means "death") .. Farsi language not like German language "exact", that is why Iranians must have an "expert" explain them what "Rumi" means saying what he saying .. same word can mean many things depending in what context, or sentencing or in combination of other word it is used ... "Marg bar America" means "down with America" .. in farsi, at present political context, it means "non of your business calling for "regime change" in our beloved Persia.

Persia no ZuLu republic that any power can call for a "regime change" .. as explained here many times, Iranians consider themselves much more a "superior civilization" than West let alone America.

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HP,

Agree. View from mountain top in Iran or Appalachia is the same. Poor flat landers! Don't know what they are missing!
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:They also should no longer call for death to America.
Iranians call for death to anything that ticks them off. It is the Farsi equivalent of up yours. They call for death to traffc lights fcol.
It might be time for them to rethink that.
Right-e-o. Like rethinking the US usage of BS or MF because of descriptive inaccuracy.
It's either that or we hit them with nuclear weapons.
Censorship isn't necessary
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Canada’s Secret to Resisting the West’s Populist Wave


Identity works differently in Canada. Both whites and nonwhites see Canadian identity as something that not only can accommodate outsiders, but is enhanced by the inclusion of many different kinds of people.

Canada is a mosaic rather than a melting pot, several people told me — a place that celebrates different backgrounds rather than demanding assimilation.

“Lots of immigrants, they come with their culture, and Canadians like that,” said Ilya Bolotine, an information technology worker from Russia, whom I met at a large park on the Lake Ontario waterfront. “They like variety. They like diversity.”

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Even as politicians engineered a pro-diversity consensus, immigrant and minority groups have organized, unapologetic about asserting their interests.

In Canada, because all parties compete for all ethnic blocs, minorities do not tend to polarize into just one party. That leaves little incentive for tribalism, even as minority groups feel empowered to champion their ethnic or religious identity.

“We say, ‘Look, where do you stand on particular issues of importance to us?’” said Kulvir Singh Gill, a member of Toronto’s powerful Sikh community. “And on the basis of that, we’ll be selective in our support.”

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But although Canada’s high immigration rates have transformed the country in just a few decades, the public has mostly been calm and accepting.

One reason may be Canada’s unusual immigration policies. A sponsorship system, in which Canadian families host newcomers, allows communities to feel they are a part of the country’s refugee resettlement program.

And a points system, which favors migrants who are thought to contribute economically, makes immigration feel like something that benefits everyone.

As a result, immigration is broadly accepted as positive, closing off a major avenue of populist mobilization.

Ahmed Hussen, the federal immigration minister, said “the luck of geography” had also helped make immigration feel less threatening.

Virtually every immigrant to Canada is brought here deliberately. Research suggests that uncontrolled immigration, for example the mass arrival of refugees in Europe, can trigger a populist backlash, regardless of whether those arrivals pose a threat.

“We have the luxury of being surrounded by oceans on three sides, and then by the U.S. border,” Mr. Hussen said. “Which, relative to your southern border, doesn’t have the same amount of irregular migration.”

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Must read for SM, Doc, NH and CS ..

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Canada’s Secret to Resisting the West’s Populist Wave


Must read for SM, Doc, NH and CS ..

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:lol: :lol:

HP,

This should have been posted under the Trumps Wins over NYT author thread.

You and the NYT really crack me up. The existence of very restrictive immigration laws in Canada is definitely one way to resist right wing populism which calls for the creation of more restrictive immigration laws.

NYT thinking at its finest. The US adopting immigration laws as restrictive as Canada, would be a dream come true for both xenophobes and rational thinkers in the US. Which is of course evidence that Canada is less right wing populist than the US in the mind of an NYT author. :roll:

My prescription for you remains the same dude, unplug from the internet and NYT, and rent a car. You need to get out more! ;)
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Simple Minded wrote:

Must read for SM, Doc, NH and CS ..



:lol: :lol:


HP,

This should have been posted under the Trumps Wins over NYT author thread.

You and the NYT really crack me up. The existence of very restrictive immigration laws in Canada is definitely one way to resist right wing populism which calls for the creation of more restrictive immigration laws.

NYT thinking at its finest. The US adopting immigration laws as restrictive as Canada, would be a dream come true for both xenophobes and rational thinkers in the US. Which is of course evidence that Canada is less right wing populist than the US in the mind of an NYT author. :roll:

My prescription for you remains the same dude, unplug from the internet and NYT, and rent a car. You need to get out more! ;)


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SM , the devil is in the "fine print".


True , Canada has (very) restrictive immigration, and, US (2B polite) "right wing" wants "restrictive" immigration.

But , Iranians and Syrians and and have "priority" for immigration to Canada .. Vancouver has now (is said) 150,000 Iranians, plane load of Iranians come every day to Canada, Canada needs 300,000 to 500,000 immigrants a year .. Canada (already) no WHITE , but multi culture multi ethnic wonderful country ..

Please read the article ( in Canadian national paper) , please read it

The "white Canadians" want the immigrants, in Vancouver Canadians loooove Iranians .. nobody shooting turban sikhs shouting leave my country .. @least 30% off all Vancouver is Chinese.

You should read the article and learn from it .. and tell what you don't like

Pls comment on what the article argues .. this most important for Americans if they real patriot, argue con and pro of the article.

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American Middle Class Is No Longer the World’s Richest
Canada Passes U.S. for World’s Richest Middle Class



After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada — substantially behind in 2000 — now appear to be higher than in the United States.

The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

Crooks fly by private Jet, and, the white middle class fooled by blaming Mexicans and Iranians .. MP, somebody eatin your lunch, it ain't Mexicans nor mad mullahs.

Pfui, SM, pfui :lol:


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


American Middle Class Is No Longer the World’s Richest
Canada Passes U.S. for World’s Richest Middle Class



After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada — substantially behind in 2000 — now appear to be higher than in the United States.

The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

Crooks fly by private Jet, and, the white middle class fooled by blaming Mexicans and Iranians .. MP, somebody eatin your lunch, it ain't Mexicans nor mad mullahs.

Pfui, SM, pfui :lol:

Same advice HP, unplug and drive.


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:

Must read for SM, Doc, NH and CS ..



:lol: :lol:


HP,

This should have been posted under the Trumps Wins over NYT author thread.

You and the NYT really crack me up. The existence of very restrictive immigration laws in Canada is definitely one way to resist right wing populism which calls for the creation of more restrictive immigration laws.

NYT thinking at its finest. The US adopting immigration laws as restrictive as Canada, would be a dream come true for both xenophobes and rational thinkers in the US. Which is of course evidence that Canada is less right wing populist than the US in the mind of an NYT author. :roll:

My prescription for you remains the same dude, unplug from the internet and NYT, and rent a car. You need to get out more! ;)


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SM , the devil is in the "fine print".


True , Canada has (very) restrictive immigration, and, US (2B polite) "right wing" wants "restrictive" immigration.

But , Iranians and Syrians and and have "priority" for immigration to Canada .. Vancouver has now (is said) 150,000 Iranians, plane load of Iranians come every day to Canada, Canada needs 300,000 to 500,000 immigrants a year .. Canada (already) no WHITE , but multi culture multi ethnic wonderful country ..

Please read the article ( in Canadian national paper) , please read it

The "white Canadians" want the immigrants, in Vancouver Canadians loooove Iranians .. nobody shooting turban sikhs shouting leave my country .. @least 30% off all Vancouver is Chinese.

You should read the article and learn from it .. and tell what you don't like

Pls comment on what the article argues .. this most important for Americans if they real patriot, argue con and pro of the article.

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Same advice HP, unplug and drive! Canada different from US? Sure, which two individuals, or which two zip codes are you talking about?

You are addicted to stereotypes and MSM propaganda......
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Simple Minded wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Canada’s Secret to Resisting the West’s Populist Wave


Must read for SM, Doc, NH and CS ..

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:lol: :lol:

HP,

This should have been posted under the Trumps Wins over NYT author thread.

You and the NYT really crack me up. The existence of very restrictive immigration laws in Canada is definitely one way to resist right wing populism which calls for the creation of more restrictive immigration laws.

NYT thinking at its finest. The US adopting immigration laws as restrictive as Canada, would be a dream come true for both xenophobes and rational thinkers in the US. Which is of course evidence that Canada is less right wing populist than the US in the mind of an NYT author. :roll:

My prescription for you remains the same dude, unplug from the internet and NYT, and rent a car. You need to get out more! ;)
Canada does have rational and tough immigration laws, the kind that would give the regressive-progressive left in the US a case of the vapours.
They also excel in turning new arrivals into Canadians.

However, as some Canadian official observed in the article, they also do not have the southern US border and also benefit from the geographic situation of having the Atlantic and Pacific oceans along with the Arctic as their other borders.
Although the southern US border does not account for all US immigration issues.

If I was Canadian, I would not be pleased to receive so much attention from the NY Times.
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Simple Minded wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:

Must read for SM, Doc, NH and CS ..



:lol: :lol:


HP,

This should have been posted under the Trumps Wins over NYT author thread.

You and the NYT really crack me up. The existence of very restrictive immigration laws in Canada is definitely one way to resist right wing populism which calls for the creation of more restrictive immigration laws.

NYT thinking at its finest. The US adopting immigration laws as restrictive as Canada, would be a dream come true for both xenophobes and rational thinkers in the US. Which is of course evidence that Canada is less right wing populist than the US in the mind of an NYT author. :roll:

My prescription for you remains the same dude, unplug from the internet and NYT, and rent a car. You need to get out more! ;)


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SM , the devil is in the "fine print".


True , Canada has (very) restrictive immigration, and, US (2B polite) "right wing" wants "restrictive" immigration.

But , Iranians and Syrians and and have "priority" for immigration to Canada .. Vancouver has now (is said) 150,000 Iranians, plane load of Iranians come every day to Canada, Canada needs 300,000 to 500,000 immigrants a year .. Canada (already) no WHITE , but multi culture multi ethnic wonderful country ..

Please read the article ( in Canadian national paper) , please read it

The "white Canadians" want the immigrants, in Vancouver Canadians loooove Iranians .. nobody shooting turban sikhs shouting leave my country .. @least 30% off all Vancouver is Chinese.

You should read the article and learn from it .. and tell what you don't like

Pls comment on what the article argues .. this most important for Americans if they real patriot, argue con and pro of the article.

.

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Same advice HP, unplug and drive! Canada different from US? Sure, which two individuals, or which two zip codes are you talking about?

You are addicted to stereotypes and MSM propaganda......
Having sent courier mail to Canada, I think they use postal codes ;)

Canada did accept about 30,000 Syrian refugees, if memory serves, for humanitarian reasons.
However, being Canada, I read that they sent specialists into Syria to rigorously interview and vet candidates.
A rather different situation from the one in Europe.

As for Iranians, they are subject to the same immigration rules as everyone else, are they not?

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Typhoon wrote:.

As for Iranians, they are subject to the same immigration rules as everyone else, are they not?

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Canada has a "point" system for immigration

The more point the faster approval, and the more sought after is the immigrant

Young people with Children and higher collage education and some money (say C$ 100K) get preference .. in that order

In Vancouver, a lot of medical doctors, specialist, are UBC educated Iranian doctors, young Iranian doctors from UBC (University of British Colombia) medical faculty, most of them girls .. and , they top top doctors .. specialist in VGH (Vancouver General Hospital) are Iranians .. Vancouver has top top Iranian software engineers (costing 1/3 of SV rates) that is why many Silicon Valley giants have opened now campuses in Vancouver, Vancouver one of the main candidates that could compete with SV.

As said B4, Canadian government, legislation, mandated Immigration Canada, of @least 300,000 but preferably 500,000 immigrants a year .. if Canada does not want to become Chinese or Sikh or Black, what is the best alternative ? ? Iranians .. they ARYIAN (as you say), Caucasian, educated and come with some money and responsible people and not crazy (have you seen a SINGLE Iranian in Jail for terrorism = NO) .. for many yrs, Iranians were on "fast track" approval.

True, Canada choses the immigrants .. they do not chose by nationality, by religion, by race .. but, by the above point system.

Iranians are specially sought after because Iranians easily add Canadian values to their Iranian culture, they add to Canada.

Americans, you guys , instead of attacking, ridiculing Canadian concept of immigration and NATION, should study and try to learn from it.

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