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Lawmakers meet with foreign dignitaries all the time. It's their job. More fake news.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Lawmakers meet with foreign dignitaries all the time. It's their job.

Yes, true

but

What about Kushner ? ? :D


Mr Perfect, you not dealing with fools


Flynn and others were bringing messages from Trump to Russian (probably KGB) .. and .. Kuschner went to Russian Ambassador to "Validate" those messages and messangers, to tell Russia's KGB those messengers authentic, sent personally by Trump.

This will become bigger than Watergate .. this could be treason

Reagan did same .. and .. No-energy-Jeb (Bush) was "strategically" positioned in Florida ahead of time, pored the black vote into toilet to steal the presidency from Gore.

All this business as usual .


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It's the job of white house officials to meet with foreign contacts, not treason. You swallowing enough fake news to split wide open ;)
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Mr. Perfect wrote:.

It's the job of white house officials to meet with foreign contacts, not treason. You swallowing enough fake news to split wide open ;)

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Talk is BEFORE Trump was elected president .. during the election Trump (and his group) was private citizens .. at that time "White House" meant OBAMA administration .. Flynn and Kuschner were private citizens .. American law explicitly forbids this for American private citizens

Report today in media says, Obama administration was aware of this and has kept all the evidence secure so that nothing can be destroyed.

My guess is there is more shoes to drop

If so, Trump could be impeached

I have not dog in that race, except "american equity market" .. if talk of impeachment starts, market will correct 30% , at least.

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I'm sure you can't. However, this fake news cost you 1000 legislative seats. Joe had it. Will cost you 1000 more. Your party is finished.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Talk is BEFORE Trump was elected president .. during the election Trump (and his group) was private citizens .. at that time "White House" meant OBAMA administration .. Flynn and Kuschner were private citizens .. American law explicitly forbids this for American private citizens.
Lol. No it doesn't. I can talk to Russian official s today if I want. It's a free country.
Report today in media says, Obama administration was aware of this and has kept all the evidence secure so that nothing can be destroyed.

My guess is there is more shoes to drop
Lol, if they had anything they would have released it already.
If so, Trump could be impeached
You should bet a million dollars on that. Let me know what happens.
I have not dog in that race, except "american equity market" .. if talk of impeachment starts, market will correct 30% , at least.

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Should buy a million dollars in puts then.

However so far you are 0-18 on scandals so think it over.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:.
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

Talk is BEFORE Trump was elected president .. during the election Trump (and his group) was private citizens .. at that time "White House" meant OBAMA administration .. Flynn and Kuschner were private citizens .. American law explicitly forbids this for American private citizens.

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Lol. No it doesn't. I can talk to Russian official s today if I want. It's a free country.

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You foolin nobody, "impeachment" comin to the next theatre near you.


American private citizens can meet for private affaire any foreigners they want

But, Logan Act forbids American private citizens to "negotiate" political matters with Foreign powers, Russian Ambassador.

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.

Flynn & Logan Act


Federal Special prosecutor will put Kushner under ought and BANG


Trump was telling Russia to sabotage, hold back, with acting American President .. that is against the Logan Act law

Mr. Perfect wrote:
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Report today in media says, Obama administration was aware of this and has kept all the evidence secure so that nothing can be destroyed.

My guess is there is more shoes to drop

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Lol, if they had anything they would have released it already.


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They will table it in the impeachment process


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Lol everything you wrote is wrong.
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Folks , excellent news , we have now a "direct" communication channel with a famous high position Iranian official, he insider, pretty much represents IRGC.

Ahmadinejat now communicating with Donald via Twitter



-LGs7AJ5F3s


He can be a 2nd source for checking what all this Donald is all about :D


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Lol what happened to impeachment. Did you hear the story about the man who cried wolf.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Lol what happened to impeachment. Did you hear the story about the man who cried wolf.

Buchanan :

A Beltway Conspiracy to Break Trump
a loose but broad conspiracy to break, bring Trump down,
abort his populist agenda,
and overturn the results of the 2016 election.


At its heart is the “deep state” — agents of the intel community, their media collaborators, and their amen corner in a Democratic party whose control of our permanent government is all but total.

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The acting attorney general should instruct Director James Comey to run down, remove and recommend for prosecution any FBI or intel agent who has leaked the fruits of their investigation, or fake news, to the media. If Comey cannot find the source of the leaks, or lies, coming out of this investigation, a housecleaning may be needed at the bureau.

While President Obama may not have ordered any surveillance of Trump or his advisors, the real question is whether he or Attorney General Loretta Lynch were aware of or approved of any surveillance of Trump and his staff during the campaign.

Russian hacking of the DNC is a problem, not a scandal. The scandal is this: Who inside the government of the United States is trying to discredit, damage or destroy the President of the United States?

For these are the real subversives.

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“deep state” :lol: :lol:

Come on

Danger for Trump is, not the “deep state”, nor the democrat, neither our beloved Persia, danger for Trumpism is pendulum going too far to other side.

world can not be pushed back, America has not the power to do that .. so, America could fall into isolationism .. Isolationism is the biggest danger for America .. world acceleration galloping to forward, America only can become great of America beats others in that galloping, not turning back.

So, Trump probably will fail if he stays on the same path .. sign already he getting the message .. that new immigration order, even softer than what Obama had in place, Trump had to swallow.

Re surveillance of "Candidate" Trump during election, if it was done, it would be legitimate as Russian embassy is watched by FBI, "anybody" entering or exiting or meeting Russian ambassador or other Russian official is a legitimate "suspect" specially if it is a high US persone of interest as Kushner or Flynn .. presidents don't order such things, this are standard FBI procedure.

And .. the clash between US government officials and Trump close associates will hit America hard if it escalates.

All this Trump's fault .. he asked for names of official who participated environment conference and other stuff.

He should resign before ruins America.
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Lol no. Fact that you ask for resignation is sign of his success. Trump victory is ensured.
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isolationism didnt hurt China, Japan or South Korea

I can add that to the list of globalist dogma which doesnt add up in real world.
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noddy wrote:.

isolationism didn't hurt China, Japan or South Korea

I can add that to the list of globalist dogma which doesnt add up in real world.

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This "old wisdom" .. new wisdom is Isolationism, specially for an "highly advance" economy, is THE killer.


Share of world GDP throughout history


US GDP of world GDP : 1950 - 27% .. 1980 - 21% .. 2008 - 18%

Probably will be 2020 - 15%

Meaning , US losing on importance in world economy .. others taking over

The more advance an economy is, the more deadly is Isolationism.

In one generation, say 2050 , US economy could be behind China, India, Brazil, EU , japan, South Africa, Russia , maybe Iran


Trump and associate, they illiterate people, they should look at the # 1 genetic sequencing company in the world .. ILLUMINA

The guy who invented that technology, Stanford guy, Swedish academy of science guy Iranian Mostafa Ronaghi

Mostafa Ronaghi (born 1968) is an Iranian molecular biologist, specializing in DNA sequencing methodology. He earned his Ph.D. from the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden in 1998.

As of 2008, he is the Chief Technology Officer and Senior Vice President at Illumina.[1] Prior to this position, he was a principal investigator and Senior Research Associate at the Stanford Genome Technology Center at Stanford University, focusing on developing analytical techniques for molecular diagnostics.

He is principal investigator for several grants including grants from the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), part of the National Institutes of Health [2] for the development of array-based Pyrosequencing.

He is a co-inventor (with Pål Nyrén) of pyrosequencing technology and co-founded Pyrosequencing AB in 1997 (renamed to Biotage in 2003), and co-invented Molecular Inversion Probe assay and co-founded ParAllele BioScience to develop this multiplexed technology for genetic testing. ParAllele was acquired by Affymetrix in May 2005. In 2005, he co-founded NextBio, a search engine for life science data that was acquired by Illumina in 2013.[3] He also serves on the board of directors of IntegenX and Aurora Biofuels. In 2008 he co-founded Avantome, a DNA sequencing company acquired by Illumina July 2008.[4]

And .. now .. look at this


All this talent will leave america .. all Iranian community will leave America, they know now, they would be building their future on SAND

They will leave to Europe, to Canada, back to Iran and China and Australia and and

This no joke but very serious matter .. the new administration made of illiterate people, don't know and understand things ..

Jared Kushner, Ivanaka special adviser .. sitting at the table with Japan Abe :lol:

Am puzzled why "Lord" doing this to our beloved U.S of A.

Amen


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Good point. The isolation argument is s strawman anyway, but in point of fact it is a good idea on top of it all.
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Good point. Iranian should pack and leave this space, head pack to Iran where they are needed. Azari do you know any Iranians living in say Vancouver who could help out back home?
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Mr. Perfect wrote:.

Good point. Iranian should pack and leave this space, head pack to Iran where they are needed.

Azari do you know any Iranians living in say Vancouver who could help out back home ?

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CANADA :lol: :lol:


What you mean Iranian living in Vancouver who could help out back home ?

help what ?

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Lol. NYT. You still not learning.

Iran needs help to get out of poverty and terrorism.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:


Share of world GDP throughout history


US GDP of world GDP : 1950 - 27% .. 1980 - 21% .. 2008 - 18%

Probably will be 2020 - 15%

Meaning , US losing on importance in world economy .. others taking over

The more advance an economy is, the more deadly is Isolationism.

In one generation, say 2050 , US economy could be behind China, India, Brazil, EU , japan, South Africa, Russia , maybe Iran


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the graph contradicts your statements - China and Japan are dominant forces and are very closed to immigration, as is South Korea.

Also ignores the best high tech countries like Finland or Norway which are low immigration.

Also ignores the countries with the highest standards of living like New Zealand and Australia, stuff GDP, cheap housing, good food, low social problems is what makes a good country.

Noone has talked about stopping immigration anyway, just controlling it to a slower feed of higher quality immigrants, which is what Canada and Australia do.

I think too many people are getting confused about what they think Trump will do as opposed to what he actually does versus what the legal system will let him do.

relax.
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noddy wrote:.

relax.

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relaaaaxing :lol:


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Good news, folks US nationals can have bank accounts in the Islamic Republic. :lol:

Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) had recently clarified that Americans residing in Iran can have bank accounts in the country.

He emphasized that this was legally binding and enjoyed the support of the US administration.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

Good news, folks US nationals can have bank accounts in the Islamic Republic. :lol:

Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) had recently clarified that Americans residing in Iran can have bank accounts in the country.

He emphasized that this was legally binding and enjoyed the support of the US administration.
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FBI's James Comey
' There is no such thing as absolute privacy in America '


FBI director’s assessment deepens privacy concerns raised by the details of CIA tools to hack consumer electronics for espionage . .

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“All of us have a reasonable expectation of privacy in our homes, in our cars, and in our devices. But it also means with good reason, in court, government, through law enforcement, can invade our private spaces,” Comey said at the conference on Wednesday. “Even our memories aren’t private. Any of us can be compelled to say what we saw … In appropriate circumstances, a judge can compel any of us to testify in court on those private communications.”

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