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The Spec | Mueller’s grand jury could bring down Trump’s presidency
Donald Trump has a yuge problem in special prosecutor Robert Swan Mueller III. The American president’s anger at having this legal thorn in his administration’s side explains much of his recent erratic behaviour, as Daniel McCarthy explained in the magazine this week. Now we learn that Mueller is using a grand jury – a group that meets in secret and has the legal power to compel testimony – and that can only be an aggravation for Trump. He can keep saying it’s a ‘Witch Hunt’ – maybe it is – but a witch hunt could bring down his presidency, or at least make it impossible for his administration to function.
Speculation for now, but an interesting development.
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This should go in trump wins, grand juries are inevitable and leaks are they are investigating stuff that isn't illegal. The Russia thing is finished.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:This should go in trump wins, grand juries are inevitable and leaks are they are investigating stuff that isn't illegal. The Russia thing is finished.
Leaks are illegal.
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Typhoon wrote:The Spec | Mueller’s grand jury could bring down Trump’s presidency
Donald Trump has a yuge problem in special prosecutor Robert Swan Mueller III. The American president’s anger at having this legal thorn in his administration’s side explains much of his recent erratic behaviour, as Daniel McCarthy explained in the magazine this week. Now we learn that Mueller is using a grand jury – a group that meets in secret and has the legal power to compel testimony – and that can only be an aggravation for Trump. He can keep saying it’s a ‘Witch Hunt’ – maybe it is – but a witch hunt could bring down his presidency, or at least make it impossible for his administration to function.
Speculation for now, but an interesting development.
Grand juries are always seated. It is how prosecutors compel testimony by subpoena. Every knows there is nothing to the Russian Story Mueller's job is to cripple the Trump administration. He works for the DC establishment. That is where his loyalty resides. Just another day in the Coup D'etat that is going on. But a reminder. When gorbachev was removed from power it lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Something that the Soviet deep state never counted on..
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Doc wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:This should go in trump wins, grand juries are inevitable and leaks are they are investigating stuff that isn't illegal. The Russia thing is finished.
Leaks are illegal.
Lol true the only criminality going on is in the left wing criminal state.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:.
Doc wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:.

This should go in trump wins, grand juries are inevitable and leaks are they are investigating stuff that isn't illegal. The Russia thing is finished.

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Leaks are illegal.

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Lol true the only criminality going on is in the left wing criminal state.

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The system in America does not work .. As the Media is "for profit", it has become an "accomplice" to the "power holders", rulers .. Media not anymore FREE (to serve Joe) but a part of ruling elite and "stake holders", last it's legitimacy.

LEAKS play now the role of "Free Media"

Would it been bad idea if somebody in Democratic party headquarter had leaked bosses were sabotaging Sanders campaign and pushing Hillary when they had to be neutral ? that was the job of a real "free" Media.

Joe was fooled too long, he deserves to know the truth.

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Don’t fear the Deep State.
It may be America’s only hope


This week, it was revealed (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... mo/535725/) by U.S. journalist Rosie Gray that a staffer on Mr. Trump’s National Security Council, Rich Higgins, had written a memo arguing that “the formation of a counter-state” had taken place in the United States “at the upper levels of the bureaucracies” and that it functioned like a “Maoist insurgency” to destroy the country and was run by public employees who were “Globalists and Islamists” (terms that, in Mr. Higgins’s ideological circles, generally refer to Jews and Muslims).

Mr. Higgins’s colleague Derek Harvey had drawn up a list of officials he believed were disloyal and should be purged. The two men were fired by national security adviser H. R. McMaster, but their Deep State vision reportedly still holds favour with Mr. Trump’s chief strategist Steve Bannon and others in the administration, including, it would appear, the President himself.

The idea that the public sector is a hostile enemy has support well beyond far-right conspiracy theorists. The respectable version of the Deep State concept emerged in the 1990s as an outgrowth of the influential economic school known as public-choice theory. In this view, public employees are a special-interest group driven by economic motives of self-interest to expand their numbers and to seize resources and privileges from the general public. They are not working for the public or the government, but for their own gain.

Canada’s most famous proponent of this view was Stephen Harper, who used it as the basis of his 1991 masters dissertation and spent his years in opposition passing around books and articles that characterized the public sector as a malevolent force. Maxime Bernier, the Conservative MP and some-time leadership candidate, likes to refer to his often-reprinted speech in which he uses public-choice theory to warn against “government tyranny” from an out-of-control public sector – a Deep State theory by another name.

Belief in the Deep State might start out as healthy distrust – especially in countries where coups really do take place – but once you start viewing the public sector as an enemy, it rarely ends well. Look what happened in Turkey: under Prime Minister (and then president) Recep Tayyip Ergogan, belief in the Deep State spiralled into a feverish conspiracy theory. At this point, virtually any public employee, from schoolteacher to military general, is suspected of being a stealth member of the Gulenists, the shadowy Islamist organization that Mr. Erdogan believes has organized the entire bureaucracy in a plot against him. In response, he has now purged tens of thousands of public employees, jailed thousands and wrecked much of his country’s education system, justice system and independent public administration.

That’s the problem with the Deep State vision: If you see the public sector as a partisan political entity, then the inevitable end result is that you will turn it into one. That is, unless somebody – a judge, a general, a senior official or some other public employee – has the moral and professional strength to stop you.
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Lol, fakest of news.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Lol, fakest of news.
No, opinions may differ but this is not fake news like the Trump-Russia fiction.
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Ergogan is a great example of "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you." And "never let a good crisis go to waste," as well.

I thought it was one of those open secrets that the Gulenists were pushing hard to march through the institutions, the schools and police at first and then aiming for the military.

All of it with some sort of backing of the United States, at least policy wise, since Gulen and his high counsel are living happy and healthy in the Poconos running test prep centers from here in Turkey.
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What was fake is that the deep state is the moral savior. They are fascists actively undermining democracy itself. The deep state has been dedicated to removing trump since his election. They will fail.
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Secretive search for man behind Trump dossier

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Two US congressional staffers who travelled to London in July and tried to contact former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele were sent by a longstanding aide to Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House intelligence committee and a close ally of the White House.

The trip has brought back to the surface a continuing struggle for control of the committee’s investigation into Moscow’s role in the 2016 US election. The reliability of a dossier compiled by Steele, containing explosive allegations of extensive secret collusion between Trump and the Kremlin, is a key part of that investigation.

The two staffers turned up unannounced at Steele’s lawyers’ offices while the former MI6 officer was in the building, according to a report by Politico on Friday. But the committee’s leading Democrat, Adam Schiff, said on Sunday neither he nor his Republican counterpart had been informed about the staffers’ London trip.

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Look , all that stuff (compiled by Steel) true

But

So what ?

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Ashley Judd FULL Speech at "Women's March" In Washington DC
.. chews up Donald



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She right, how come no sales tax on Viagra but Tax on Tampon ? :lol:


:lol: .. loooove it .. what a lovely tiger, what a lovely tiger


Well, must admit, HP feminist as Ted Kennedy was one :lol:

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Core part of Saudi foreign policy
weaponization of Islam



And, "Trump & Company" say our beloved Iran is the bad guy

Saudi Arabia, and to a lesser degree other Gulf nations, are engaged in a kind of cultural terraforming. Centuries of diverse and divergent religious traditions within Islam—in countries like Yemen, Somalia, Egypt, Syria, and Iraq—have been swept away by an influx of Saudi-educated clerics and Saudi-produced religious materials.

These Saudi-influenced imams and religious literature teach the radical brand of Islam that predominates in Saudi Arabia: Wahhabism.

Joe is lied again .. crooks highjacked America, ruining America

What a disaster, what a disaster

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Ashley Judd FULL Speech at "Women's March" In Washington DC
.. chews up Donald



VNXMOxBbt6g



She right, how come no sales tax on Viagra but Tax on Tampon ? :lol:


:lol: .. loooove it .. what a lovely tiger, what a lovely tiger


Well, must admit, HP feminist as Ted Kennedy was one :lol:

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No sales tax on Viagra an attempt to boost birth rate.

Ashley Judd speech is what happens when woman with PMS reaches for the Midol bottle and accidentally ends up takes Viagra instead!
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Simple Minded wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Ashley Judd FULL Speech at "Women's March" In Washington DC
.. chews up Donald



VNXMOxBbt6g



She right, how come no sales tax on Viagra but Tax on Tampon ? :lol:


:lol: .. loooove it .. what a lovely tiger, what a lovely tiger


Well, must admit, HP feminist as Ted Kennedy was one :lol:

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No sales tax on Viagra an attempt to boost birth rate.

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:lol: .. that's a good one

Simple Minded wrote:.

Ashley Judd speech is what happens when woman with PMS reaches for the Midol bottle and accidentally ends up takes Viagra instead!

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And .. you guys complain about "woman rights" in our beloved Persia .. mail chauvinism


Has a "PMS off" button :lol:

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


Ashley Judd FULL Speech at "Women's March" In Washington DC
.. chews up Donald



VNXMOxBbt6g



She right, how come no sales tax on Viagra but Tax on Tampon ? :lol:


:lol: .. loooove it .. what a lovely tiger, what a lovely tiger


Well, must admit, HP feminist as Ted Kennedy was one :lol:

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This was wide!y mocked as insane at the time. You are 9 months behind the times.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.



Ashley Judd FULL Speech at "Women's March" In Washington DC
.. chews up Donald



VNXMOxBbt6g



She right, how come no sales tax on Viagra but Tax on Tampon ? :lol:


:lol: .. loooove it .. what a lovely tiger, what a lovely tiger


Well, must admit, HP feminist as Ted Kennedy was one :lol:

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This was wide!y mocked as insane at the time. You are 9 months behind the times.

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Come on, MP, come on

Ashley Judd IS America .. she the best of the best of America .. She symbolizes America ... Looooooooove her


Double Jeopardy :lol:


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And now this



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Mr. Perfect .. watch what you hero (I like him too) Jimmy Dore says about Israel AND our beloved Iran .. :lol:

Jimmy Dore says Iran the good guys


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Lol Ashely Judd is crazy cat lady, social justice warrior. Laughing stock.

Israel already won regional hegemony. Nothing left but Arab/Persian tears for eternity.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Lol Ashely Judd is crazy cat lady, social justice warrior. Laughing stock.

Israel already won regional hegemony. Nothing left but Arab/Persian tears for eternity.


Jimmy Dore saying otherwise and he right


Iran controls now Syria and Lebanon and Iraq (and soon Yemen).

And you saying Israel won regional Hegemony :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pls watch the clip I posted, Jimmy Dore says Israel an "Appartheit regime" .. and .. very important .. Iran a "democracy" .. Jimmy Dore says and not Azari.

You said I should watch Jimmy Dore .. well .. you can not pick and chose .. here you have it , Jimmy Dore :D


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Lol, no Arab/Persian group controls another for very long. Facts are, Arab/Persian been screaming "DEATH TO YESRAEL!!!!!" for 50 years, Israel never had more peace prosperity security stability than today, thanks to both sides of aisle in Israel, mostly though bibi Netanyahu!!! PEace be upon him.

Jimmy Dore, LIBERAL left wing, wrong on many issues, but currently ONLY left wing outlet that publishes any real news. Everything else is wrong. But, Jimmy wrong on many issues, just when I need liberals to know at least a little real news I send them to Jimmy. When Jimmy goes off rails then I step in to straighten out.
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Lol, no Arab/Persian group controls another for very long. Facts are, Arab/Persian been screaming "DEATH TO YESRAEL!!!!!" for 50 years, Israel never had more peace prosperity security stability than today, thanks to both sides of aisle in Israel, mostly though bibi Netanyahu!!! PEace be upon him.

Jimmy Dore, LIBERAL left wing, wrong on many issues, but currently ONLY left wing outlet that publishes any real news. Everything else is wrong. But, Jimmy wrong on many issues, just when I need liberals to know at least a little real news I send them to Jimmy. When Jimmy goes off rails then I step in to straighten out.

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Whaaaat ! ! ! !

Come on .. Israel's golden age was only within Persian Empire .. and .. that will stay so :lol:

BiBi is a crook, Israel court saying so .. he was getting "kickbacks" from all submarine and other arms deals ..

FORMER NETANYAHU AIDE TURNS STATE WITNESS IN PM CORRUPTION PROBE
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Not really. Israel is a modern marvel, high tech wealthy safe and stable, despite 1 billion muslms seething with hatred. They been saying "death to yesrael!!!!" For 50 years, Jews enjoying record peace and prosperity. Israel future is bright.
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