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Heracleum Persicum wrote:But the danger lies in it attempting something like Britain’s during the Suez crisis of 1956, when it forgot for a moment that the imperial era had ended – and overreached. It will be extremely difficult for Trump to swallow the humiliation as Anthony Eden (who resigned as British prime minister) did in such circumstances.
There is scant risk of such a thing happening to the US anytime soon.

When France and Britain acted to protect their rights in Egypt 1956, the USA and USSR collided to block the Europeans: Washington attacked the British pound creating a severe threat to British economy while Moscow got the full way of threatening to nuke Paris and London if the two countries did not pull out their troops. Which they obviously had to do: France had no nukes at the time, Britain didn't have a real secure deterrent.

But who is now in a position to force the USA to retract from a military intervention against a non-nuclear country? Nobody, obviously:
- The US has what neither Britain nor France had in 1956: well enough of a nuclear deterrent to shrug off any threat to nuke New York, an obvious bluff except if US forces were attacking a nuclear country - which they obviously won't do
- No conceivable economic pressure could collapse the US dollar, at least for now. Beijing selling of its T-Bonds would trigger the Fed to just create new dollars to buy them off, maintaining their interest rate as low as desired
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:But the danger lies in it attempting something like Britain’s during the Suez crisis of 1956, when it forgot for a moment that the imperial era had ended – and overreached. It will be extremely difficult for Trump to swallow the humiliation as Anthony Eden (who resigned as British prime minister) did in such circumstances.

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When France and Britain acted to protect their rights in Egypt 1956 . .

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What, which "rights" :lol:


Was visiting Nice when French Generals (leading mutineer was Maurice Challe) tried to pull a Coup d'état against our beloved General Charles de Gaulle, saw the military trucks on Promenade des Anglais.

Issue now with UN vote not military confrontation with US .. but .. US now on notice world does not consider US anymore leading, Even Germany who stays "neutral" and never votes against Israel related issues, voted against US.


Changing the subject :


‘Not the world’s gendarme’ :
Putin says Russia will scale down military spending


Moscow will not engage in an exhausting arms race, and the country’s military spending will gradually decrease as Russia does not seek a role as the “world gendarme,” President Vladimir Putin said.
Moscow is not seeking to get involved in a “pointless” new arms race, and will stick to “smart decisions” to strengthen its defensive capabilities, Putin said on Friday during an annual extended meeting of the Defense Ministry board.

“Intelligence, brains, discipline and organization” must be the cornerstones of the country’s military doctrine, the Russian leader said.

The last thing that Russia needs is an arms race that would “drain” its economy, and Moscow sure does not want that “in any scenario,” Putin pointed out.

“There is something else that we take into consideration – and I am speaking without irony – we rely on our peaceful foreign policy. That’s crucial, since we don’t need countless bases all over the world, we are not seeking to play the role of the world gendarme – we do not need that,” Putin stated.

Russia is set to scale down its military budget after the surge it experienced back in 2016. “Next year it will be some 2.8 percent of GDP. It will even slowly decrease further,” Putin explained.

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:

Changing the subject :


‘Not the world’s gendarme’ :
Putin says Russia will scale down military spending


Moscow will not engage in an exhausting arms race, and the country’s military spending will gradually decrease as Russia does not seek a role as the “world gendarme,” President Vladimir Putin said.
Moscow is not seeking to get involved in a “pointless” new arms race, and will stick to “smart decisions” to strengthen its defensive capabilities, Putin said on Friday during an annual extended meeting of the Defense Ministry board.

“Intelligence, brains, discipline and organization” must be the cornerstones of the country’s military doctrine, the Russian leader said.

The last thing that Russia needs is an arms race that would “drain” its economy, and Moscow sure does not want that “in any scenario,” Putin pointed out.

“There is something else that we take into consideration – and I am speaking without irony – we rely on our peaceful foreign policy. That’s crucial, since we don’t need countless bases all over the world, we are not seeking to play the role of the world gendarme – we do not need that,” Putin stated.

Russia is set to scale down its military budget after the surge it experienced back in 2016. “Next year it will be some 2.8 percent of GDP. It will even slowly decrease further,” Putin explained.

Smart guy

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smart enough to sink the smartest woman in the world's presidential boat.....
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where's the stagecraft?

Way too understated to be credible. This "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" stuff only works on people who feel vulnerable.

c'mon, even for bureaucrats, this is lame sh1t.

I'll get interested when the moving vans taking the last UN desk out of the building in NYC pull away headed for JFK.
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Simple Minded wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:

Changing the subject :


‘Not the world’s gendarme’ :
Putin says Russia will scale down military spending


Moscow will not engage in an exhausting arms race, and the country’s military spending will gradually decrease as Russia does not seek a role as the “world gendarme,” President Vladimir Putin said.
Moscow is not seeking to get involved in a “pointless” new arms race, and will stick to “smart decisions” to strengthen its defensive capabilities, Putin said on Friday during an annual extended meeting of the Defense Ministry board.

“Intelligence, brains, discipline and organization” must be the cornerstones of the country’s military doctrine, the Russian leader said.

The last thing that Russia needs is an arms race that would “drain” its economy, and Moscow sure does not want that “in any scenario,” Putin pointed out.

“There is something else that we take into consideration – and I am speaking without irony – we rely on our peaceful foreign policy. That’s crucial, since we don’t need countless bases all over the world, we are not seeking to play the role of the world gendarme – we do not need that,” Putin stated.

Russia is set to scale down its military budget after the surge it experienced back in 2016. “Next year it will be some 2.8 percent of GDP. It will even slowly decrease further,” Putin explained.

Smart guy


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smart enough to sink the smartest woman in the world's presidential boat ....

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Hillary should have sensed the changes and let Biden or Sanders step forward, BS takes you only so far.

Bill was not liked, she was his extension.

She knew all this, but her ego would not let go.

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The 6 Billion Dollar man


I think this excuse .. MBS scared of Alwaleed, wants to keep him arrested, brake him

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Jimmy Dore believes some international journalist tells the truth about Syria. But it just illustrates that the average American, even the smarter commentators from the center-not entirely regressed left like Jimmy Dore, are easily being duped into believing narratives that are equally thin and biased as the ones they purport to expose.

WisDjl6g6rk

The woman just doesn't like the US+Israel calling shots and prefers Russia, Iran and Assad calling the shots. She considers Russia and Iran forces for stability and prefers Assad staying in power.

I think she is right, and there is a majority consensus also in the West now, that it is probably better to not interfere with internal power struggles within other countries because chance is big that things will only get worse. She however does not apply this wisdom to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and supports, or at least favors Iran and Assad's Syria who commit continuously the sins she accuses that US of: meddling with a conflict, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, that is not theirs and supporting militant groups that not even feel ashamed using gory terror as a means to achieve their goals: Hizbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas. With Russia as the big sponsor and hammer in the background.

The solution of course would be if everybody stops meddling around in the meddle east, and meddle eastern countries stop meddling with their own neighboring countries as well and aim at becoming civilized neighbors. But meddle eastern countries will not do that any time soon, "even" if the USA and Russia stay out of it as of tomorrow.
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Parodite wrote:.

Jimmy Dore believes some international journalist tells the truth about Syria. But it just illustrates that the average American, even the smarter commentators from the center-not entirely regressed left like Jimmy Dore, are easily being duped into believing narratives that are equally thin and biased as the ones they purport to expose.

WisDjl6g6rk

The woman just doesn't like the US+Israel calling shots and prefers Russia, Iran and Assad calling the shots. She considers Russia and Iran forces for stability and prefers Assad staying in power.

I think she is right, and there is a majority consensus also in the West now, that it is probably better to not interfere with internal power struggles within other countries because chance is big that things will only get worse. She however does not apply this wisdom to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and supports, or at least favors Iran and Assad's Syria who commit continuously the sins she accuses that US of: meddling with a conflict, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, that is not theirs and supporting militant groups that not even feel ashamed using gory terror as a means to achieve their goals: Hizbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas. With Russia as the big sponsor and hammer in the background.

The solution of course would be if everybody stops meddling around in the meddle east, and meddle eastern countries stop meddling with their own neighbouring countries as well and aim at becoming civilized neighbours. But meddle eastern countries will not do that any time soon, "even" if the USA and Russia stay out of it as of tomorrow.

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She must be an Iranian agent :D


Was Syria a paradise till few yrs ago when Iran entered the picture ?

Last many years, Israel and America were calling shots .. and we see the result, death and destruction.

Neocon, Bolton & friends have a lot of Middle Eastern blood on their hands .. World has to be tankful to Iran to wipe out those terrorists who behead on TV Americans and burned alive Jordanian F-16 pilot.

Persian Empire ruled that space uninterrupted for 1000 yrs .. in peace and prosperity .. even Israel, it's "Golden Age" was when within Empire.


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Parodite wrote:Jimmy Dore believes some international journalist tells the truth about Syria. But it just illustrates that the average American, even the smarter commentators from the center-not entirely regressed left like Jimmy Dore, are easily being duped into believing narratives that are equally thin and biased as the ones they purport to expose.

WisDjl6g6rk

The woman just doesn't like the US+Israel calling shots and prefers Russia, Iran and Assad calling the shots. She considers Russia and Iran forces for stability and prefers Assad staying in power.

I think she is right, and there is a majority consensus also in the West now, that it is probably better to not interfere with internal power struggles within other countries because chance is big that things will only get worse. She however does not apply this wisdom to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and supports, or at least favors Iran and Assad's Syria who commit continuously the sins she accuses that US of: meddling with a conflict, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, that is not theirs and supporting militant groups that not even feel ashamed using gory terror as a means to achieve their goals: Hizbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas. With Russia as the big sponsor and hammer in the background.

The solution of course would be if everybody stops meddling around in the meddle east, and meddle eastern countries stop meddling with their own neighboring countries as well and aim at becoming civilized neighbors. But meddle eastern countries will not do that any time soon, "even" if the USA and Russia stay out of it as of tomorrow.
To a certain degree meddling by the west is revenge for 911. I used to post in a very liberal forum. At one point there was a Muslim Cleric/former jihadist that decided he was wrong and apologized for his previous behavior. The unified response in that forum was close to "TOO DAMN LATE!!!" which kind of took me aback.

Benghazi was covered up becausee arms were being bought in Libya then being transferred to Syria and given to AL Qaeda.

A large percentage of Middle easterners are very hard headed unforgiving people that aren't particularly interested in living peacefully if that means tolerating people of even slightly different cultures.
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Hp, flying carpet again. Delusion and denial, dreaming old empire that not comes back. Remnants of soft Persian Islam, secular modern Iranians now under yoke of Islamofascist dictatorship and gunta who also meddle around not good for same reason US meddling wrong. Persia is dead and won't restore ever other than in libraries with nice poetry and literature. Place for good Iranians is in West. Meddle East no future for good people. What a disaster for old dreams. Islamo-fascism destroyed Persia helped by West in the past. West in retreat = good. Now shut up and kick out Islamo-fascists occupying Iran and pushing it to brink. Be brave and go back to Iran to save your people. Whining about US and Israel wont help. Do like Zionists and reclaim what was lost. ;)
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Doc wrote:
To a certain degree meddling by the west is revenge for 911. I used to post in a very liberal forum. At one point there was a Muslim Cleric/former jihadist that decided he was wrong and apologized for his previous behavior. The unified response in that forum was close to "TOO DAMN LATE!!!" which kind of took me aback.

Benghazi was covered up becausee arms were being bought in Libya then being transferred to Syria and given to AL Qaeda.
Could be that arming al-qaeda in Syria was some deliberate and meant as a smart move. It's like re-directing a mad dog that attacked you to another enemy in the hope they remain at each other's throat instead of yours. Could be a strategy behind it, to just keep destabilizing the med-east and have it self-destruct.
A large percentage of Middle easterners are very hard headed unforgiving people that aren't particularly interested in living peacefully if that means tolerating people of even slightly different cultures.
Indeed. When democracy is absent and compromise a dangerous thing (you can't trust somebody who doesn't trust you to trust him; loopadapoop) living peacefully is not really an option, at least not for most people. Any real or imagined significant difference poses a threat. I don't think people are not interested in peace, it just a nearly impossible under such circumstances. Then only rests the dictator to keep the lid on everything with an iron fist.
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Parodite wrote:.

Hp, flying carpet again. Delusion and denial, dreaming old empire that not comes back. Remnants of soft Persian Islam, secular modern Iranians now under yoke of Islamofascist dictatorship and gunta who also meddle around not good for same reason US meddling wrong. Persia is dead and won't restore ever other than in libraries with nice poetry and literature. Place for good Iranians is in West. Meddle East no future for good people. What a disaster for old dreams. Islamo-fascism destroyed Persia helped by West in the past. West in retreat = good. Now shut up and kick out Islamo-fascists occupying Iran and pushing it to brink. Be brave and go back to Iran to save your people. Whining about US and Israel wont help. Do like Zionists and reclaim what was lost. ;)

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:lol: :lol: :D

"Parodite" .. please step back and look @ the big picture.

Down the road, generation or two or three, who has the intellectual, civilization, cultural capacity, "proven" background, know how, toughness and much more to take all that space under it's umbrella ? ?

Arabs ? ? ? Turks ? ? ?

Look @ Times Magazine "historical Atlas" .. Arabia is "blanc, uncharted" .. Turkey in reality in Asian Steps, Mesopotamia
Persian-Helenic-Byzantine playground for 1000s of yrs.

Nobody, absolutely nobody has that capacity except Persia.

That is why West so afraid of Iran .. Last 40 yrs Iran in sausage making, but West would not let it happen, throwing sand in Iranian gear by any opportunity .. European sausage making was much more bloody, "Dreißigjähriger Krieg", aDolf and the rest.

Iran following China model, later will follow "Adenauer-Charles de Gaulle" model, built a "Middle Eastern union", under Iranian leadership.

Brits were ridiculing when Adenauer/De Gaulle EWG .. and look now

Re Zionist, that for another time, don't want hurt feelings :) .. for a change, they should pay .. Shah gave Israel a lot of "free" Oil

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Parodite wrote:
Doc wrote:
To a certain degree meddling by the west is revenge for 911. I used to post in a very liberal forum. At one point there was a Muslim Cleric/former jihadist that decided he was wrong and apologized for his previous behavior. The unified response in that forum was close to "TOO DAMN LATE!!!" which kind of took me aback.

Benghazi was covered up becausee arms were being bought in Libya then being transferred to Syria and given to AL Qaeda.
Could be that arming al-qaeda in Syria was some deliberate and meant as a smart move. It's like re-directing a mad dog that attacked you to another enemy in the hope they remain at each other's throat instead of yours. Could be a strategy behind it, to just keep destabilizing the med-east and have it self-destruct.
A large percentage of Middle easterners are very hard headed unforgiving people that aren't particularly interested in living peacefully if that means tolerating people of even slightly different cultures.
Indeed. When democracy is absent and compromise a dangerous thing (you can't trust somebody who doesn't trust you to trust him; loopadapoop) living peacefully is not really an option, at least not for most people. Any real or imagined significant difference poses a threat. I don't think people are not interested in peace, it just a nearly impossible under such circumstances. Then only rests the dictator to keep the lid on everything with an iron fist.
True in a lot of places Look at Yugoslavia.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: :lol: :lol: :D

"Parodite" .. please step back and look @ the big picture.

Down the road, generation or two or three, who has the intellectual, civilization, cultural capacity, "proven" background, know how, toughness and much more to take all that space under it's umbrella ? ?

Arabs ? ? ? Turks ? ? ?

Look @ Times Magazine "historical Atlas" .. Arabia is "blanc, uncharted" .. Turkey in reality in Asian Steps, Mesopotamia
Persian-Helenic-Byzantine playground for 1000s of yrs.

Nobody, absolutely nobody has that capacity except Persia.

That is why West so afraid of Iran .. Last 40 yrs Iran in sausage making, but West would not let it happen, throwing sand in Iranian gear by any opportunity .. European sausage making was much more bloody, "Dreißigjähriger Krieg", aDolf and the rest.

Iran following China model, later will follow "Adenauer-Charles de Gaulle" model, built a "Middle Eastern union", under Iranian leadership.

Brits were ridiculing when Adenauer/De Gaulle EWG .. and look now

Re Zionist, that for another time, don't want hurt feelings :) .. for a change, they should pay .. Shah gave Israel a lot of "free" Oil

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Flying carpet almost size Persia!! :D

Capacity Iran now is capacity of Islamofascists who destroyed Persia. They will not let go. Self-destruct Iran. When, and what after that? No guarantees. Many old empires never to return. But you can dream on, is free of charge.
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Flying carpet almost size Persia!! :D

Capacity Iran now is capacity of Islamofascists who destroyed Persia. They will not let go. Self-destruct Iran. When, and what after that? No guarantees. Many old empires never to return. But you can dream on, is free of charge.
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You gotta give HP at least a little credit here.
a. He lives in the West rather than Persia
b. He readily admits that Persia will not return to it's former glory in his (and probably our) lifetime.

So he sounds more like the guy wearing the billboard sign that says "Jesus is watching you!" rather than the guy wearing the billboard that says "Jesus is coming back next Tuesday at 11 am!"

Did the Ice Age predictors give up when their predictions turned to crap? Did the Global Warm-ongers give up? No they morphed into Climate Changers! The Far East might be the new Persia!

"My culture was the greatest culture of the past! All modern cultures borrow from past cultures. Any future great culture must descend from my past great culture. The science is settled...... by definition!"

In scientific, psychological terms, this mental trait is known as "The Flux Capacity!" Which is what links the future to the past.

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Parodite wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote: :lol: :lol: :D

"Parodite" .. please step back and look @ the big picture.

Down the road, generation or two or three, who has the intellectual, civilization, cultural capacity, "proven" background, know how, toughness and much more to take all that space under it's umbrella ? ?

Arabs ? ? ? Turks ? ? ?

Look @ Times Magazine "historical Atlas" .. Arabia is "blanc, uncharted" .. Turkey in reality in Asian Steps, Mesopotamia
Persian-Helenic-Byzantine playground for 1000s of yrs.

Nobody, absolutely nobody has that capacity except Persia.

That is why West so afraid of Iran .. Last 40 yrs Iran in sausage making, but West would not let it happen, throwing sand in Iranian gear by any opportunity .. European sausage making was much more bloody, "Dreißigjähriger Krieg", aDolf and the rest.

Iran following China model, later will follow "Adenauer-Charles de Gaulle" model, built a "Middle Eastern union", under Iranian leadership.

Brits were ridiculing when Adenauer/De Gaulle EWG .. and look now

Re Zionist, that for another time, don't want hurt feelings :) .. for a change, they should pay .. Shah gave Israel a lot of "free" Oil

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Flying carpet almost size Persia!! :D

Capacity Iran now is capacity of Islamofascists who destroyed Persia. They will not let go. Self-destruct Iran. When, and what after that? No guarantees. Many old empires never to return. But you can dream on, is free of charge.


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TheNation
These Are the Real Causes of the Iran Protests



Could not explain it better

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Austerity measures :
MBS arrests 11 princes


The princes, who gathered in the historical Palace of Government area in the capital Riyadh on Saturday, were demonstrating against a government decision to suspend payment of their utility bills, Sabq said.

Upon arrest, they were reportedly sent to Ha'ir prison, a maximum-security facility south of Riyadh.

:lol: .. the bum (MBS) just spent $ 500m on Yacht, $ 500m on a villa in France, $ 500m for a fake painting .. and the Ayatollahs are the corrupt ones.

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:TheNation
These Are the Real Causes of the Iran Protests


Could not explain it better.
The man has no clue, it is garbage. His 2009 friends don't know what's really going on. How much of the protest is driven by economics and against gvt mismanagement, how much an expression of protest in general against the theocratic gang.

That the protests dwindle away, how much of that is caused by effective repression, threat and violence by the police (people do remember what they are capable of), or how much is caused by a lack of enthusiasm to protest more and harder.. is also hard to measure at this point.

But these are the real questions yet to be answered. The writer doesn't seem very eager to get these answers: he just decides it is better to sell the idea that Trump makes it only worse and that Iranians don't like him. They like him less than their own mullah gang ruling them? How many of the Iranians really love the mad mullahs and equally hate the US? How many would really love the mad mullahs to go to be replaced by a modern secular Iranian gvt that behaves more responsible and moderate in foreign affairs?

Again.. no statistics, no facts. He is just farting in the air, err.. in the face of Trump. Is he being payed by the Iranian gvt to say all this crap? Or he is just supposed to write what is a narrative that pays for his monthly bills and doesn't want to makes too many enemies.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01 ... -arrested/
Former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ARRESTED!
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Trump visit to London called off


Why need spend "$1bn embassy in Nine Elms, south-west London" .. $ 1 B a lot of money for an embassy in safe place like London.

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noddy wrote: . . azari is a mammonite


:lol: :lol: , that was a good one, noddy



And now this : Not coequal citizens.



Why Norwegians Aren't Moving to the U.S.
It wasn’t always this way.



In fiscal year 2016, 1.18 million people became legal permanent residents of the United States, according to data from the Department of Homeland Security. Of these, 362 were born in Norway. That status, which is also known as the “green card,” brings immigrants one step closer to becoming naturalized American citizens. That same year, 753,060 green-card holders became citizens. The number of Norwegians: 93. The number of Norwegians immigrants to the U.S. has steadily declined over the past five decades, according to data from the Migration Policy Institute, which studies global migration trends. In fact, there are fewer Norwegians living in the U.S. than any other major European country.

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Between 1825 and 1925, 800,000 Norwegians came to the U.S., mostly settling in the Midwest. The mid-19th century was an especially good time to leave Norway. Indeed, at the time, some might have called it “a shithole.” Unemployment was high, there was little social mobility, and there wasn’t enough land for farms. The United States had recently passed the Homestead Act (1862), which gave settlers free land as long as they stayed on it for at least five years. The allure proved so great that Norway is estimated to have lost a larger share of its population to the U.S. than any other country, save Ireland. That was until the passage of the 1924 Immigration Act, the law designed to keep out Southern and Eastern Europeans, and Asians. The law had one unintended consequence: It dramatically lowered immigration from northern European Norway.

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What changed ? Norway did.

The country discovered oil in the late 1960s, and, unlike other resource-rich countries that have succumbed to mismanagement and corruption in the face of sudden wealth, invested heavily in its people and its economy to become one of the world’s wealthiest places. Its per capita gross domestic product went from $1,441.80 in 1960 to $70,911.8 now, according to World Bank data. (The U.S. figure is $57,638.20.) Norway has higher life expectancy at birth than the U.S., lower rates of infant mortality, low unemployment, and access to the European Union’s labor market (though it’s not an EU member).

Additionally, Norway is the world’s happiest country (the U.S. ranks 14), the place with the most political freedom (the U.S. ranks 45), most press freedom (the U.S. ranks 43rd), and most prosperity (the U.S. ranks 18). Simply put, there’s little economic incentive for Norwegians to immigrate to the U.S.


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There a reason Angela took-in 1 million Syrian refugees .. they the best immigrant you can get.

Trump says Iranians and Syrians should not come .. An European takes as joke immigrating to US (they not even now coming as tourists) .. that leaves Trump with Haitian and African immigrants .. You Reap What You Sow

Norway itself takes a lot of immigrants .. Norway minister said Iranians are the best immigrants they get .

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Toronto Suddenly Has a New Craving :
Syrian Food
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Until recently, Syrian cuisine hardly existed in Toronto. With just a few hundred families, the Syrian population was too small to support a restaurant scene. But over the past two years, following the high-profile resettlement of more than 50,000 refugees in Canada, the Toronto area — where over 11,000 of them live — is experiencing the green shoots of a Syrian-food boom.

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What does this have to do with US foreign policy? There seems to be a correlation between your inability to stay on subject, pee and poo no matter where and when and your Greater Persia desires.
Deep down I'm very superficial
Simple Minded

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Parodite wrote:
What does this have to do with US foreign policy? There seems to be a correlation between your inability to stay on subject, pee and poo no matter where and when and your Greater Persia desires.
C'mon Parodite.... I can't believe you don't see the obvious chain of cause and effect here.

More Syrians move into Toronto. Syrians restaurants become more popular. Grater Persia re-emerges as the most stupendous culture the world have ever known.

A then B then C.

Is that really so hard to follow? ;). I'll admit, it could also be due to climate change......
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