US-North Korea Conflict
US-North Korea Conflict
Trump on North Korea in 1999
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North Korea is hardly a threat to the US. The last thing Kim and his generals want is to die. They simply want to exercise their natural right to national sovereignty, counter military pressure from the US and the South, and end up with a big bargaining chip to negotiate some breathing room for their economy.
Even a dummy should be able to understand this. Too bad we've got worse in the White House.
Now, proliferation *is* a problem for two reasons: this encourages other countries to develop their own weapons as deterrents, and North Korea may end up selling its missile tech to other nations.
If one wants to make a stand against proliferation, Korea is a terrible place to do it. It's unacceptable and dishonorable to put South Korean civilians at risk simply because our "patience" is running out and we don't want to incur the most hypothetical of casualties on US soil.
Where are the adults in the room? Perhaps I should run for office and work my way up to President. I'd be the greatest leader the US ever had. Except maybe Lincoln. But quite possibly better than him, even.
Even a dummy should be able to understand this. Too bad we've got worse in the White House.
Now, proliferation *is* a problem for two reasons: this encourages other countries to develop their own weapons as deterrents, and North Korea may end up selling its missile tech to other nations.
If one wants to make a stand against proliferation, Korea is a terrible place to do it. It's unacceptable and dishonorable to put South Korean civilians at risk simply because our "patience" is running out and we don't want to incur the most hypothetical of casualties on US soil.
Where are the adults in the room? Perhaps I should run for office and work my way up to President. I'd be the greatest leader the US ever had. Except maybe Lincoln. But quite possibly better than him, even.
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Bill Clinton gave the North koreans Nuclear reactors Fuel for them for 10 years and $ 5 billion in exchange for a promise that North Korea would be good. Let's see where have I heard that before? Oh yeah...
AND ANOTHER THING
North Korea went from primitive liquid fueled missiles to advanced solid fuel mobile ICBMs in a very few years. They did this because China gave them the technology(And built the trucks to carry them)
China got its ICBM technology from Benedict Bill Clinton
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/world ... china.html
There is no statue of limitations for TREASON.
The only questions left to ask is where did North Korea get the technology to suddenly miniaturize their nukes to fit on those missiles?
And why did North Korea say that it was only going to attack the US and no one else? Perhaps because China told them not to attack anyone but the US?
BTW This is the equivalent weight of the Uranium that exploded in the Hiroshima bomb
AND ANOTHER THING
North Korea went from primitive liquid fueled missiles to advanced solid fuel mobile ICBMs in a very few years. They did this because China gave them the technology(And built the trucks to carry them)
China got its ICBM technology from Benedict Bill Clinton
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/world ... china.html
There is no statue of limitations for TREASON.
The only questions left to ask is where did North Korea get the technology to suddenly miniaturize their nukes to fit on those missiles?
And why did North Korea say that it was only going to attack the US and no one else? Perhaps because China told them not to attack anyone but the US?
BTW This is the equivalent weight of the Uranium that exploded in the Hiroshima bomb
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Zack Morris wrote:
Where are the adults in the room? Perhaps I should run for office and work my way up to President. I'd be the greatest leader the US ever had. Except maybe Lincoln. But quite possibly better than him, even.
I say GO FOR IT ZACK! I'm in for 50 bucks already. Same for Tinker and Mr. Perfect!
Three way debates would be epic.
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This is bullsh*t. Bill Clinton didn't give them any nuclear material. The Agreed Framework was handicapped almost immediately by the GOP and the North Koreans rightly accused the US of reneging on the agreement. The reactors were never built and would have been financed largely by South Korea, Japan, and Germany, indicating the degree of regional and international support the agreement had. Even had they been completed, the whole point was to replace the Yongbyon reactor and make it more difficult to produce weapons-grade uranium and plutonium.Doc wrote:Bill Clinton gave the North koreans Nuclear reactors Fuel for them for 10 years and $ 5 billion in exchange for a promise that North Korea would be good. Let's see where have I heard that before? Oh yeah...
More bullsh*t. Do you even understand what you post? From the article:North Korea went from primitive liquid fueled missiles to advanced solid fuel mobile ICBMs in a very few years. They did this because China gave them the technology(And built the trucks to carry them)
China got its ICBM technology from Benedict Bill Clinton
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/world ... china.html
Launching an American telecom satellite aboard a Chinese-made rocket lead to North Korea obtaining solid-fuel rocket technology? Huh?The Clinton Administration notified Congress today that it had approved the export of technology to China to permit the launching of a communications satellite aboard a Chinese rocket next month.
That puts Donald Trumpsky on noticeThere is no statue of limitations for TREASON.
Or maybe because the US is the dominant military power on the Korean peninsula?And why did North Korea say that it was only going to attack the US and no one else? Perhaps because China told them not to attack anyone but the US?
Now we've got a dummy in the White House emulating Kim Jong-un's childish rhetoric. The US is completely unprepared diplomatically thanks to the narcoleptic, bumbling Tillerson and North Korea has already called Lyin' Don's empty bluff by threatening a specific US target. The US does not have the means to effectively fight a new Korean war.
Seems that the new US foreign policy posture under Trump is to speak loudly and wag a tiny finger.
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Fixed.Zack Morris wrote:Osama Bin Laden is hardly a threat to the US. The last thing Bin Laden and his generals want is to die.
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NK is there to scare Japan into sticking with the west. Not other relevance whatsoever.
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Bin Laden was a geurilla warrior whose objective was to employ terror attacks to boot infidels out of Muslim lands and re-establish a caliphate.
North Korea is a nation state whose leaders want a steady supply of bulgogi and beer.
If you can't tell the difference, you've no business commenting on foreign policy. Why are Americans so witless about the world?
North Korea is a nation state whose leaders want a steady supply of bulgogi and beer.
If you can't tell the difference, you've no business commenting on foreign policy. Why are Americans so witless about the world?
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Nice Al Gore impersonation ZackZack Morris wrote:This is bullsh*t. Bill Clinton didn't give them any nuclear material. The Agreed Framework was handicapped almost immediately by the GOP and the North Koreans rightly accused the US of reneging on the agreement. The reactors were never built and would have been financed largely by South Korea, Japan, and Germany, indicating the degree of regional and international support the agreement had. Even had they been completed, the whole point was to replace the Yongbyon reactor and make it more difficult to produce weapons-grade uranium and plutonium.Doc wrote:Bill Clinton gave the North koreans Nuclear reactors Fuel for them for 10 years and $ 5 billion in exchange for a promise that North Korea would be good. Let's see where have I heard that before? Oh yeah...
More bullsh*t. Do you even understand what you post? From the article:North Korea went from primitive liquid fueled missiles to advanced solid fuel mobile ICBMs in a very few years. They did this because China gave them the technology(And built the trucks to carry them)
China got its ICBM technology from Benedict Bill Clinton
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/world ... china.html
Launching an American telecom satellite aboard a Chinese-made rocket lead to North Korea obtaining solid-fuel rocket technology? Huh?The Clinton Administration notified Congress today that it had approved the export of technology to China to permit the launching of a communications satellite aboard a Chinese rocket next month.
That puts Donald Trumpsky on noticeThere is no statue of limitations for TREASON.
Or maybe because the US is the dominant military power on the Korean peninsula?And why did North Korea say that it was only going to attack the US and no one else? Perhaps because China told them not to attack anyone but the US?
Now we've got a dummy in the White House emulating Kim Jong-un's childish rhetoric. The US is completely unprepared diplomatically thanks to the narcoleptic, bumbling Tillerson and North Korea has already called Lyin' Don's empty bluff by threatening a specific US target. The US does not have the means to effectively fight a new Korean war.
Seems that the new US foreign policy posture under Trump is to speak loudly and wag a tiny finger.
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The Endless Errors in U.S. Korea Policy That Has Brought Us to the Brink of Nuclear War
By Michael Rubin On 8/10/17 at 5:45 AM
As the Ford administration wound down, North Korea struck at Americans in the DMZ. As American Cpt. Arthur Bonifas supervised a work crew trimming a tree, some 20 North Koreans soldiers knocked Bonifas and Lt. Mark Barrett to the ground and hacked them to death with axes. The brutality shocked even North Korea’s traditional allies.
In response, the United States launched Operation Paul Bunyan, deploying fighter-jets, B-52s, and the USS Midway to support the tree-trimming exercise. Credible force worked. Not only did North Korea stand down, but Kim Il Sung offered regrets.
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No. The reason NK exists is that China does not want US troops on its border.Nonc Hilaire wrote:NK is there to scare Japan into sticking with the west. Not other relevance whatsoever.
This was made clear during the Korean War.
Korean War
The American strategic mistake goes back WWII; to the Yanks agreeing that Soviet-Russia should invade Korea and liberate up to the 38th parallel. Of course, the concept of liberation was interpreted in a rather different manner by Soviet-Russia and PR China.
This set the stage for the Korean War.
As was the case with Soviet-Russian so-called liberation in Europe; Baltic states and the Warsaw Pact nations.
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All 17 of Obama Admin Intel agencies agreed that North Korea had no nukes to put on ICBMs http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/ ... nukes.html
Obama administration knew about North Korea's miniaturized nukes
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“ They that sow the wind, shall reap the Whirlwind ”
Look, guys, threatening others with Nuclear Weapon leads "others" to develop their own nuclear weapons .. you end up where you now @ with North Korea .. so .. why the complain ? ?
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“ They that sow the wind, shall reap the Whirlwind ”
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It is a little understood reality that it was the United States that first introduced nuclear weapons into the Korean Peninsula and, by including South Korea and Japan in its strategic nuclear umbrella, has made nuclear weapons an ever-present reality of any foreign policy or national security discussion on North Korea.
The decision by the United States in 1957 to abrogate paragraph 13(d) of the Korean armistice agreement prohibiting the introduction of new weapons into the Korean peninsula was seen as an economy of force measure by then-President Eisenhower, who believed that the deployment of nuclear weapons to South Korea would allow the United States to withdraw its large conventional military presence there.
For North Korea, it was seen as a direct threat to its existence, given the fact that the American policy at that time was, and continues to be, one that seeks regime change through containment and destabilization.
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Look, guys, threatening others with Nuclear Weapon leads "others" to develop their own nuclear weapons .. you end up where you now @ with North Korea .. so .. why the complain ? ?
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Lol. From the guy that turned Libya into a terrorist state for no particular reason and created Isis for fun.Zack Morris wrote:Bin Laden was a geurilla warrior whose objective was to employ terror attacks to boot infidels out of Muslim lands and re-establish a caliphate.
North Korea is a nation state whose leaders want a steady supply of bulgogi and beer.
If you can't tell the difference, you've no business commenting on foreign policy. Why are Americans so witless about the world?
The American people saw your comments on foreign policy and removed you from power completely. You have no access to government power because of your actions and comments.
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-w ... le/2631144
How would the US retaliate if North Korea attacked Guam?
by Tom Rogan | Aug 10, 2017, 11:18 AM
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They didn't. But under Trump, now they do Trump enabled this. Maybe had he spent less time at the golf course he could have put a stop to it. We'll never know, I guess.Doc wrote:All 17 of Obama Admin Intel agencies agreed that North Korea had no nukes to put on ICBMs http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/ ... nukes.htmlObama administration knew about North Korea's miniaturized nukes
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I like the last line of this article:Doc wrote:http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-w ... le/2631144
How would the US retaliate if North Korea attacked Guam?
by Tom Rogan | Aug 10, 2017, 11:18 AM
The grown ups that the world looks to are no longer in Washington.Let us hope China wakes up and the diplomats succeed.
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Looks like Trump is 10 steps ahead of you again.
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All 17 of Obama's intel agencies said they didn't But the DIA report says they did and Obama covered it up.Zack Morris wrote:They didn't. But under Trump, now they do Trump enabled this. Maybe had he spent less time at the golf course he could have put a stop to it. We'll never know, I guess.Doc wrote:All 17 of Obama Admin Intel agencies agreed that North Korea had no nukes to put on ICBMs http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/ ... nukes.htmlObama administration knew about North Korea's miniaturized nukes
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Trump knows words. He has the best words. Sort of.Tues: "Fire and fury"
Wed: "More powerful than ever before"
Thur: "Maybe 'fire and fury' wasn't tough enough"
Fri: "Locked and loaded"
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True, Trump 10 steps ahead of all
Question only, ahead to where .. ruining our beloved America, that's where he headed and he ahead, you right MP
Why Donald buggin our beloved Persia ? ?
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Looks like Trump is 10 steps ahead of you again.
True, Trump 10 steps ahead of all
Question only, ahead to where .. ruining our beloved America, that's where he headed and he ahead, you right MP
Why Donald buggin our beloved Persia ? ?
Pfui
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“When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight,” Samuel Johnson observed, “it concentrates his mind wonderfully.”
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Kim’s credible threat to one day be able to nuke a U.S. city is going to concentrate American minds wonderfully.
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If Kim Un Jong decides to launch missiles to hit off the coast of Guam coastal waters, filled with American fish, and kills just one of them dies there needs to be hell to pay.
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Lol you crawled out of your hole in the ground to cry about this? Thanks for making my President more popular.YMix wrote:Trump knows words. He has the best words. Sort of.Tues: "Fire and fury"
Wed: "More powerful than ever before"
Thur: "Maybe 'fire and fury' wasn't tough enough"
Fri: "Locked and loaded"
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