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So after scads of domestic left wing terrorist killings over the last several years, an apparent (as of this writing nothing is known of the perp) white nationalist killed some people.

For some reason, people are outraged at terrorism in this instance and were silent when the leftists were slaying. When Muslims.BLM/Bernie bros slaughter it's important to not fan any flames and above all we don't backlashes against muslims/blacks/democrats etc. But most importantly the actions of muslims/BLM/bernie bros that murder is not reflective on muslims/blm/democrats.

Now all of a sudden Donald Trump is personally responsible for what happened in VA. This is obviously perverse but that's not the subject for today.

The subject is the war has begun.

For generations Democrats have been cultivating race war. By dividing on race and creating groups like La Raza, BLM and the preceding organizations, Democrats went from the slave party to the segregation party to the race war party.

I know the people personally on all sides.

When you create law that gives advantage to one race over the other, the non advantaged races will revolt.
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So there is a large chunk of white Americans who have never done anything bad to a minority of any type, and they watch daily as they are accused of being racist oppressors when their daily reality is minding their own business. I have watched these types for decades get angrier and angrier as time goes by. I've watched them hiss under their breath when a TV show called "Blackness" gets green lit, when everyone well knows a show called "Whiteness" will never get air.

I've watched them hiss when white people are murdered by leftists/minorities and nobody thinks its a big deal. But if 1 black person is killed under certain circumstances cities burn to the ground.

The left no longer represents their interests.
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Part of politics is principle, part is interests. Politicking on interests can be a zero sum game. To attract one voter you have to alienate another voter if their interests conflict.

As we have seen over the last several years in the obama era, Democrats are deeply stupid people. They decided to purposely drive up the minority vote over the white vote, because they minority vote is the "future" (that never comes, lol). i can't count how many times I've been regaled with the genius of this strategy, the GOP was electorally doomed.

But the future happened and we are the largest we have ever been. Because Democrats are innumerate. White voters are 70% of the electorate. Democrats decided to piss off 70% of the electorate to pander to 30%. Enjoy your suicide.
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In US prisons the population instantly segregates to black white and hispanic. Over the last 12 years the pattern has developed in the voting.

The Democrat strategy is to pit the races against each other. The result is Muslim Democrats murdering Americans, BLM members murdering cops, Bernie bros mass shooting of congressional Republicans, while groups like Antifa riot assault and threaten up to and including the murder of Donald Trump.

There are white nationalists that see this as a threat to them individually. When you can openly murder white Americans of traditional morality then you are essentially calling for open season. Well the group being hunted is going to fight back.

Today was the first day of return fire, if the assailant turns out to fit the profile. Interesting conspiracies on twitter.
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So the war is on. The Democrats made their beds, now they will sleep in them. They started a race war, now they have it.

Personally I reject all these people. There is no excuse to gun down congressional Republicans, run conservatives off campus or mow people down in cars. Unfortunately we are beyond that. Democrats have been baiting this for a generation, and finally somebody bit.

Democrats will howl like hyenas, and the underlings will keep murdering. But now the white people will be murdering back.

I'll give you 2 guesses as to who wins.

Enjoy your race war Democrats.
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This piece probably belongs somewhere else, but I'll put it here if only because this is the newest discussion.


I've been reading Steve Sailer on and off for years because he's a fine writer, provides plenty of laughs, and often has some good points, but I never quote him because anyone who does is sure to be called a racist.


But I've reached the point in my life where I don't care what anyone thinks of the authors I read.




The trillion dollar question - Steve Sailer, Taki's Magazine, 9 August 2017
http://takimag.com/article/the_trillion ... z4pYHyYn3a

... A few decades ago, you could waste some money on affirmative action hires, give them nice titles and offices, and often they’d happily let the real workers get back to work.

But today’s quota kids have been trained to sniff out microaggressions against their amour propre. If anybody like Damore objects, it’s proof of sexism, racism, or whatever else the government’s out to crush. The New Sensitivity is a perpetual motion machine for extracting payoffs that has evolved over decades of trial and error.

Yet for the longest time, Silicon Valley considered itself not subject to the civil rights bureaucracies and social pressures that pester the more uncool parts of the business world.

Why? Because it was high-tech and thus it was good. Disparate impact in hiring must be the result of old bad prejudices, so, obviously, futuristic tech companies shouldn’t have to worry about not hiring many women or blacks.

For decades, therefore, when Jesse Jackson intermittently tried to shake down Silicon Valley, he was routinely sent packing with a pittance and scoffing laughter. As recently as 2011, I pointed out that Silicon Valley largely ignored the diversity demands that intimidated the rest of corporate America.

Moreover, the first Obama administration was no more going to persecute Silicon Valley for not following its multiculturalism rules before the 2012 election than it would Hollywood or the universities. There were campaign contributions to collect.

Amusingly, the liberal elites who financed Obama’s reelection in 2012 had no idea that Obama’s turnout strategy of unifying his ungainly coalition of the fringes by ginning up hatred against cishet white males would rebound against them in the ensuing years.

Once the president was reelected, however, the real Obama could safely come out. Just as I had predicted in my 2008 book America’s Half-Blood Prince: Barack Obama’s “Story of Race and Inheritance” Obama’s first term was pretty sensible and his second term pretty…authentic.

The second Obama administration was free to point its resentful allies at the rich prizes in the tech industry, the entertainment industry, and academia.

Ironically, after decades of globalism, there isn’t much left to loot among Trump’s base, so now the lucrative blue-state institutions are in the crosshairs. All these highly Democratic industries have since been getting cannibalized by fellow Democrats in the ongoing meltdown of liberalism, what archaeologists might someday call the Late Obama Age Collapse. We are still watching progressives claw each other’s eyes out as they fail to peacefully divvy up the plunder. ...
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Early 1930's Germany. National Socialists (Nazis) and Antifa types (Communists) were violently fighting it out of the streets of Germany. Today National socialists and Antifa were fighting it out on the streets of America. If you look at teh crowds in Charlotte one thing is clear almost all the protesters were white. People need to wake up and realize they are being manipulated by ideological morons
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Doc wrote:Early 1930's Germany. National Socialists (Nazis) and Antifa types (Communists) were violently fighting it out of the streets of Germany. .
. . .
In the 1930's Germany also had the collapse of the Weimar Republic, the Great Depression, and hyperinflation.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:So the war is on. The Democrats made their beds, now they will sleep in them. They started a race war, now they have it.

Personally I reject all these people. There is no excuse to gun down congressional Republicans, run conservatives off campus or mow people down in cars. Unfortunately we are beyond that. Democrats have been baiting this for a generation, and finally somebody bit.

Democrats will howl like hyenas, and the underlings will keep murdering. But now the white people will be murdering back.

I'll give you 2 guesses as to who wins.

Enjoy your race war Democrats.
Is that you, Charles?

Two numbers that I have not seen reported are the KKK and Antifa turnouts.

While some with an overly developed sense of the dramatic may dream about a "race war",
I will guess that the turnout for this event was under 100 on both sides.

Of course, the US media on all sides can talk and write about little else.
Especially as some moran decided that vehicular manslaughter was a viable option.
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Apollonius wrote: . . .

The billion dollar question - Steve Sailer, Taki's Magazine, 9 August 2017
http://takimag.com/article/the_trillion ... z4pYHyYn3a

. . .
Always on the lookout for new English language sources of independent opinion.
However, Taki Mag falls rather short of the cut.
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Typhoon wrote:
Doc wrote:Early 1930's Germany. National Socialists (Nazis) and Antifa types (Communists) were violently fighting it out of the streets of Germany. .
. . .
In the 1930's Germany also had the collapse of the Weimar Republic, the Great Depression, and hyperinflation.
Of course they did. This kind of stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. US institutions are failing People are not happy Obama is to blame as much as anyone. Apparently the police were once against told to stand down as they were in Berkeley during the protests there and as they were in Chicago during that Trump rally last year. This is an intentional attempt to drive up the violence by the Democratic party.
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Typhoon wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:So the war is on. The Democrats made their beds, now they will sleep in them. They started a race war, now they have it.

Personally I reject all these people. There is no excuse to gun down congressional Republicans, run conservatives off campus or mow people down in cars. Unfortunately we are beyond that. Democrats have been baiting this for a generation, and finally somebody bit.

Democrats will howl like hyenas, and the underlings will keep murdering. But now the white people will be murdering back.

I'll give you 2 guesses as to who wins.

Enjoy your race war Democrats.
Is that you, Charles?

Two numbers that I have not seen reported are the KKK and Antifa turnouts.

While some with an overly developed sense of the dramatic may dream about a "race war",
I will guess that the turnout for this event was under 100 on both sides.

Of course, the US media on all sides can talk and write about little else.
Especially as some moran decided that vehicular manslaughter was a viable option.
The guy in the video I posted said about 50 old, poor KKK-ish people; most who didn't get out of their cars.

About 300 police officers

and about 2000 counter-protestors (not all anti-fa, of course)

...

His opinion of the hit&run was that it happened in panic with so many people roaming the streets. I don't think he was there for the actual incident but he saw the aftermath.

Otherwise, he didn't see a whole lot of violence but with lots of calls for medics. A lot of them likely are heat-related (he keeps complainin' about).

He was jostled a bit but nothing that worried him.
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Typhoon wrote: Is that you, Charles?

Two numbers that I have not seen reported are the KKK and Antifa turnouts.

While some with an overly developed sense of the dramatic may dream about a "race war",
I will guess that the turnout for this event was under 100 on both sides.

Of course, the US media on all sides can talk and write about little else.
Especially as some moran decided that vehicular manslaughter was a viable option.
Don't know who Charles is, interested to find out, but live by the MSM die by the MSM.

If that's what they want this to be plenty of people will play.
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Early reports are he was from Ohio. So this was either totally premeditated or some weird fluke. In terms of speculation I could go both ways, but the safe bet is premeditation..
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
Typhoon wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:So the war is on. The Democrats made their beds, now they will sleep in them. They started a race war, now they have it.

Personally I reject all these people. There is no excuse to gun down congressional Republicans, run conservatives off campus or mow people down in cars. Unfortunately we are beyond that. Democrats have been baiting this for a generation, and finally somebody bit.

Democrats will howl like hyenas, and the underlings will keep murdering. But now the white people will be murdering back.

I'll give you 2 guesses as to who wins.

Enjoy your race war Democrats.
Is that you, Charles?

Two numbers that I have not seen reported are the KKK and Antifa turnouts.

While some with an overly developed sense of the dramatic may dream about a "race war",
I will guess that the turnout for this event was under 100 on both sides.

Of course, the US media on all sides can talk and write about little else.
Especially as some moran decided that vehicular manslaughter was a viable option.
The guy in the video I posted said about 50 old, poor KKK-ish people; most who didn't get out of their cars.

About 300 police officers

and about 2000 counter-protestors (not all anti-fa, of course)

...

His opinion of the hit&run was that it happened in panic with so many people roaming the streets. I don't think he was there for the actual incident but he saw the aftermath.

Otherwise, he didn't see a whole lot of violence but with lots of calls for medics. A lot of them likely are heat-related (he keeps complainin' about).

He was jostled a bit but nothing that worried him.
From the images I've seen online your source didn't make it to the main event.

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On the order of 100 rightist protesters, young and middle-aged, rather than 10 or 1000.
Not exactly a movement despite the histrionics in the MSM.

Not able to estimate the turnout by the leftist.
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A group of a hundred or so mostly young men with torches around an idol-like figure is a frightening picture. Your Id goes crazy. Your inner chimp is like, eeeek -yeeek- yeeek - yeeek........

Anyway, the reaction and the drama far exceeds the provocation. The problem isn't white nationalism, the problem is many, many more people seeking self validation through commitment to a cause. Any context or provocation will do. This is the flash-point scenario and we are there.......
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Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:A group of a hundred or so mostly young men with torches around an idol-like figure is a frightening picture. Your Id goes crazy. Your inner chimp is like, eeeek -yeeek- yeeek - yeeek........

Anyway, the reaction and the drama far exceeds the provocation. The problem isn't white nationalism, the problem is many, many more people seeking self validation through commitment to a cause. Any context or provocation will do. This is the flash-point scenario and we are there.......


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Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:A group of a hundred or so mostly young men with torches around an idol-like figure is a frightening picture. Your Id goes crazy. Your inner chimp is like, eeeek -yeeek- yeeek - yeeek........
:lol:
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:Anyway, the reaction and the drama far exceeds the provocation. The problem isn't white nationalism, the problem is many, many more people seeking self validation through commitment to a cause. Any context or provocation will do. This is the flash-point scenario and we are there.......
Difficult as it may be, I will refrain from quoting W. B. Yeats.

Perceptive points.

Hard to surmise from overseas if the flash-point has already been attained.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:So after scads of domestic left wing terrorist killings over the last several years, an apparent (as of this writing nothing is known of the perp) white nationalist killed some people.
White nationalists and their ideological forebears have killed a lot more than a few people over the course of US history. Their beliefs are irreconcilable with the fundamentally supraethnic character of this nation. They need to be called out for what they are: racists.
For some reason, people are outraged at terrorism in this instance and were silent when the leftists were slaying. When Muslims.BLM/Bernie bros slaughter it's important to not fan any flames and above all we don't backlashes against muslims/blacks/democrats etc. But most importantly the actions of muslims/BLM/bernie bros that murder is not reflective on muslims/blm/democrats.
There are no organized violent leftist movements in the United States on a comparable scale to white nationalists. It is ridiculous to imply that American Muslims or blacks constitute some sort of violent anti-American ideological bloc.
Now all of a sudden Donald Trump is personally responsible for what happened in VA. This is obviously perverse but that's not the subject for today.
Donald Trump has gone to great lengths to avoid denouncing white nationalism, racism, while consistently drawing false equivalences between "both sides". Given the frequency and consistency of his statements on this topic, it is certainly deliberate. It's all the more ironic given how eager he was to ridicule Obama for avoiding the term "radical Islamic terror".
The subject is the war has begun.

For generations Democrats have been cultivating race war. By dividing on race and creating groups like La Raza, BLM and the preceding organizations, Democrats went from the slave party to the segregation party to the race war party.
You've been making this fact-free claim for years now in a vain attempt to disassociate yourself from racism but it's complete nonsense no matter how you slice it.

Today's Democrats have nothing in common with their antebellum namesakes. Both parties have united disparate constituencies over some portion of their platform or another, and the composition of both has changed over time. Pro-segregation Democrats were all concentrated in the South and now there are virtually no Democrats there. To paraphrase two famous Democratic defectors: they didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Party left them. Those people and their cultural biases are still there, and now they vote Republicans. Their ideas didn't magically migrate to the coasts.

The crime that BLM, La Raza, etc. are guilty of is fighting for social equality in a society that obviously has not yet fully embraced this idea. BLM is a justifiable reaction to decades of ignoring black deaths, whether at the hands of a police state seemingly designed to brutalize minorities or within their troubled communities. Many people are rightly unsettled when they see weeks-long national obsessions over the kidnapping of a white girl but jaded dismissal of black victims. If you don't like that this has reached a boiling point, you should have done something about it earlier.


Your thesis that Democrats have alienated whites in a zero-sum political game is flat-out incorrect. It's also completely inconsistent with your mockery of Bernie supporters as being overly white. Minority interests are not at odds with white peoples', except in the case of racists who have a physiological reaction to merely being made aware of the existence of minorities. A black, Hispanic, or Asian person's political gain rarely comes at the expense of a white person's, and most white people seem to agree. The GOP will never win over all whites. And society is becoming far more tolerant than you would have predicted, indicating that key elements of the Democratic platform have been widely embraced, like gay marriage and transgender rights.

At the end of the day, there's no going back. Only one party has made a concerted if imperfect effort at upholding the multiethnic character that is fundamental to the American identity. White nationalism will be stamped out and will never be able to assert itself. It's impossible and we're seeing that right now as white nationalists overestimate their influence and draw near universal disgust. In a few years, all prominent Confederate monuments will have been torn down -- as they should have been long ago -- and white nationalists will have ended up with a fistful of nothing.
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Typhoon wrote:
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:A group of a hundred or so mostly young men with torches around an idol-like figure is a frightening picture. Your Id goes crazy. Your inner chimp is like, eeeek -yeeek- yeeek - yeeek........
:lol:
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:Anyway, the reaction and the drama far exceeds the provocation. The problem isn't white nationalism, the problem is many, many more people seeking self validation through commitment to a cause. Any context or provocation will do. This is the flash-point scenario and we are there.......
Difficult as it may be, I will refrain from quoting W. B. Yeats.

Perceptive points.

Hard to surmise from overseas if the flash-point has already been attained.
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Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:
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Zack Morris wrote:White nationalists and their ideological forebears have killed a lot more than a few people over the course of US history. Their beliefs are irreconcilable with the fundamentally supraethnic character of this nation. They need to be called out for what they are: racists.
Way to go Captain Obvious. As always, reading comprehension is soooo critical.
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There are no organized violent leftist movements in the United States on a comparable scale to white nationalists.
Left wing terrorism in the last 20 years is about 20:1 more murders and violence than white nationalists. You are far worse than them.
It is ridiculous to imply that American Muslims or blacks constitute some sort of violent anti-American ideological bloc.
It's a documented fact. Muslism, BLM, Bernie Bros, antifa murder 20:1 what white nationalists do. You are an anti-American ideoligical bloc. When congressional Republicans were gunned down by Democrat terrorists you laughed about it. You are the fascist/racist.
Donald Trump has gone to great lengths to avoid denouncing white nationalism, racism, while consistently drawing false equivalences between "both sides".
True. There is a false equivalence. Your side is 20 times worse.
Given the frequency and consistency of his statements on this topic, it is certainly deliberate. It's all the more ironic given how eager he was to ridicule Obama for avoiding the term "radical Islamic terror".
What he has avoided is letting people like you and the MSM paint him as a white nationalist. He does not share ideology with those people. He has acted responsibly in this regard.

Radical Islamic Terror is global phenomenon that has destroyed nations and killed a few million people and endangers whole regions of the globe. There is literally no comparison to white nationalism.
You've been making this fact-free claim for years now in a vain attempt to disassociate yourself from racism but it's complete nonsense no matter how you slice it.
It's fact rich. Your side has been slicing up the country by race and exploiting it for purely partisan purposes with no regard to the human damage you do.
Today's Democrats have nothing in common with their antebellum namesakes. Both parties have united disparate constituencies over some portion of their platform or another, and the composition of both has changed over time. Pro-segregation Democrats were all concentrated in the South and now there are virtually no Democrats there. To paraphrase two famous Democratic defectors: they didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Party left them. Those people and their cultural biases are still there, and now they vote Republicans. Their ideas didn't magically migrate to the coasts.
The modern northern white liberal lies to black people telling them Republicans are going to bring back slavery, then hands trillions of dollars to rich white bankers and none to black people while they skip a civil rights event for a weekend in the Hamptons, where domestic work is done by minorities. As Bill Clinton said, obama would have been serving him coffee.

The modern white liberal doesn't even view black people as human.
The crime that BLM, La Raza, etc. are guilty of is fighting for social equality in a society that obviously has not yet fully embraced this idea. BLM is a justifiable reaction to decades of ignoring black deaths, whether at the hands of a police state seemingly designed to brutalize minorities or within their troubled communities. Many people are rightly unsettled when they see weeks-long national obsessions over the kidnapping of a white girl but jaded dismissal of black victims. If you don't like that this has reached a boiling point, you should have done something about it earlier.
Members of black lives matters have murdered white police officers based on their race. Members of black lives matter only complain about police mistreatment of blacks and say nothing of the disproportionate murder of blacks people by other blacks, and that blacks have been under Democrat governance for 50 years and are still at the bottom of the ladder on all social and economic matters.

Dividing into groups is the opposite of equality. It is racist. You are racist. Your party is racist. As we've pointed out so many times you don't even consider black people to be human beings.
Your thesis that Democrats have alienated whites in a zero-sum political game is flat-out incorrect.
It was documented by the New York Times.
It's also completely inconsistent with your mockery of Bernie supporters as being overly white.
I didn't do that. I mock white liberals regardless of who they voted for.
Minority interests are not at odds with white peoples',
They are according to Democrats. Democrats argue for "white privilege", meaning that whites suck up all the goodies in life and minorities are deprived by oppressive racial structures. This means their interests are at odds.
except in the case of racists who have a physiological reaction to merely being made aware of the existence of minorities. A black, Hispanic, or Asian person's political gain rarely comes at the expense of a white person's, and most white people seem to agree.
Unfortunately the Democrat Party does not agree. The Democrat Party has done nothing to improve the lives of minorities in the 50 years they have been the caretakers, because once minorities become rich they will vote Republican. The Democrat Party has every incentive to maintain the status quo no matter how much black suffering they create.
The GOP will never win over all whites.
Doesn't need to. But you will probably send a lot more our way before you are done.
And society is becoming far more tolerant than you would have predicted, indicating that key elements of the Democratic platform have been widely embraced, like gay marriage and transgender rights.
Election results don't support your narrative. The Republican Party is the biggest it has ever been. Your party is finished.
At the end of the day, there's no going back. Only one party has made a concerted if imperfect effort at upholding the multiethnic character that is fundamental to the American identity.
If you need to work to uphold fundamentals then it isn't a fundamental. The multicultural experiment has failed and you lost. Every country in the West except Canada is trying to find some way out of it.
White nationalism will be stamped out and will never be able to assert itself.
You created it and it will only get worse. BLM/Antifa/Democrats will keep targeting whites as they have done for years and a small percentage is going to start shooting back. You wanted a race war, it's on your doorstep.
It's impossible and we're seeing that right now as white nationalists overestimate their influence and draw near universal disgust.
Democrats draw universal disgust. Hasn't changed your outlook or behavior one iota.
In a few years, all prominent Confederate monuments will have been torn down -- as they should have been long ago -- and white nationalists will have ended up with a fistful of nothing.
This is not about monuments. Lol and as a Democrat you would know about a fistful of nothing.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:So after scads of domestic left wing terrorist killings over the last several years, an apparent (as of this writing nothing is known of the perp) white nationalist killed some people.
White nationalists and their ideological forebears have killed a lot more than a few people over the course of US history. Their beliefs are irreconcilable with the fundamentally supraethnic character of this nation. They need to be called out for what they are: racists.
They certainly have a history of lynching a lot of Republicans. And I don't recall Democrats ever paying reparations or even giving an apology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_ ... .931877.29
Reconstruction (1865–1877)
An 1868 cartoon published in The Independent Monitor of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, threatening the lynching of carpetbaggers by the Ku Klux Klan.
Mississippi Ku-Klux in the Disguises in Which They Were Captured, 1872. They were arrested in Tishomingo County, Mississippi, for attempted murder. Wood engraving from photograph, Harper's Weekly, January 27, 1872, Prints and Photographs Division, Library of Congress.[23]

After the Civil War, nearly four million slaves were emancipated in the South. They constituted a majority in some states, and in numerous counties in several states. The first Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 by confederate veterans in Tennessee; it became associated with insurgent violence against freedmen and their allies that included lynchings but more often consisted of direct, isolated attacks by secret groups against individuals. The first severe period of violence in the South was between 1868 and 1871. White Democrats attacked black and white Republicans.[24] To prevent ratification of new constitutions formed during Reconstruction, the opposition used various means to harass potential voters. Failed attacks led to a massacre during the 1868 elections, with the insurgents' murders of about 1,300 voters across various southern states ranging from South Carolina to Arkansas.

The lynchers sometimes murdered their victims, but sometimes whipped them to remind them of their former status as slaves.[25] White terrorists often made night-time raids of African-American homes in order to confiscate firearms. Lynchings to prevent freedmen and their allies from voting and bearing arms were extralegal ways of trying to enforce the previous system of social dominance and the Black Codes, which had been invalidated by the 14th and 15th Amendments in 1868 and 1870.

Although some states took action against the Klan, the South needed federal help. President Ulysses S. Grant and Congress passed the Enforcement Acts of 1870 and the Civil Rights Act of 1871, also known as the Ku Klux Klan Act, intended to suppress the vigilante violence of the Klan. This authorized the government to prosecute crimes committed by groups such as the KKK, as well as the use of federal troops to control violence. The administration began holding grand juries and prosecuting Klan members. In addition, it used martial law in some counties in South Carolina, where the Klan was the strongest.[citation needed] Under attack, the Klan dissipated. Vigorous federal action and the disappearance of the Klan had a strong effect in temporarily reducing the numbers of murders.[citation needed]

From the mid-1870s onward, violence rose as insurgent paramilitary groups in the Deep South worked to suppress black voting and turn Republicans out of office. In Louisiana, the Carolinas and Florida especially, the Democratic Party relied on paramilitary "White Line" groups, such as the White Camelia, White League and Red Shirts to terrorize, intimidate and assassinate African American and white Republicans in an organized drive to regain power. In Mississippi and the Carolinas, paramilitary chapters of Red Shirts conducted overt violence and disruption of elections. In Louisiana, the White League had numerous chapters; they carried out goals of the Democratic Party to suppress black voting. Grant's desire to keep Ohio in the Republican aisle and his attorney general's maneuvers led to a failure to support the Mississippi governor with Federal troops.[26] The campaign of terror worked. In Yazoo County, Mississippi, for instance, with an African American population of 12,000, only seven votes were cast for Republicans in 1874. In 1875, Democrats swept into power in the Mississippi state legislature.[26]

Once Democrats regained power in Mississippi, Democrats in other states adopted the Mississippi Plan to control the election of 1876, using informal armed militias to assassinate political leaders, hunt down community members, intimidate and turn away voters, and effectively suppress African American suffrage and civil rights. In state after state, Democrats swept back to power.[27] From 1868 to 1876, there were 50–100 lynchings annually.
For some reason, people are outraged at terrorism in this instance and were silent when the leftists were slaying. When Muslims.BLM/Bernie bros slaughter it's important to not fan any flames and above all we don't backlashes against muslims/blacks/democrats etc. But most importantly the actions of muslims/BLM/bernie bros that murder is not reflective on muslims/blm/democrats.
There are no organized violent leftist movements in the United States on a comparable scale to white nationalists. It is ridiculous to imply that American Muslims or blacks constitute some sort of violent anti-American ideological bloc.
REALLY?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... l-violence
Now all of a sudden Donald Trump is personally responsible for what happened in VA. This is obviously perverse but that's not the subject for today.
Donald Trump has gone to great lengths to avoid denouncing white nationalism, racism, while consistently drawing false equivalences between "both sides". Given the frequency and consistency of his statements on this topic, it is certainly deliberate. It's all the more ironic given how eager he was to ridicule Obama for avoiding the term "radical Islamic terror".


The subject is the war has begun.

For generations Democrats have been cultivating race war. By dividing on race and creating groups like La Raza, BLM and the preceding organizations, Democrats went from the slave party to the segregation party to the race war party.
You've been making this fact-free claim for years now in a vain attempt to disassociate yourself from racism but it's complete nonsense no matter how you slice it.

Today's Democrats have nothing in common with their antebellum namesakes. Both parties have united disparate constituencies over some portion of their platform or another, and the composition of both has changed over time. Pro-segregation Democrats were all concentrated in the South and now there are virtually no Democrats there. To paraphrase two famous Democratic defectors: they didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Party left them. Those people and their cultural biases are still there, and now they vote Republicans. Their ideas didn't magically migrate to the coasts.

The crime that BLM, La Raza, etc. are guilty of is fighting for social equality in a society that obviously has not yet fully embraced this idea. BLM is a justifiable reaction to decades of ignoring black deaths, whether at the hands of a police state seemingly designed to brutalize minorities or within their troubled communities. Many people are rightly unsettled when they see weeks-long national obsessions over the kidnapping of a white girl but jaded dismissal of black victims. If you don't like that this has reached a boiling point, you should have done something about it earlier.


Your thesis that Democrats have alienated whites in a zero-sum political game is flat-out incorrect. It's also completely inconsistent with your mockery of Bernie supporters as being overly white. Minority interests are not at odds with white peoples', except in the case of racists who have a physiological reaction to merely being made aware of the existence of minorities. A black, Hispanic, or Asian person's political gain rarely comes at the expense of a white person's, and most white people seem to agree. The GOP will never win over all whites. And society is becoming far more tolerant than you would have predicted, indicating that key elements of the Democratic platform have been widely embraced, like gay marriage and transgender rights.

At the end of the day, there's no going back. Only one party has made a concerted if imperfect effort at upholding the multiethnic character that is fundamental to the American identity. White nationalism will be stamped out and will never be able to assert itself. It's impossible and we're seeing that right now as white nationalists overestimate their influence and draw near universal disgust. In a few years, all prominent Confederate monuments will have been torn down -- as they should have been long ago -- and white nationalists will have ended up with a fistful of nothing.
I don't recall you ever saying which of the Nazi 25 points you disagree with Zack

So which ones do you disagree with?

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/r ... points.htm
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