Social Media Censorship

[Mr. Perfect]

Now left wing partisanship in US mainstream media is at least 100 years old, but as we cord cut and new media takes out old media, new media is looking to be worse in many ways than the old.

This is our new reality.

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Now Twitter has not only admitted to censoring it's users but it's bragging about it.

On facebook, where I am minimally active, every news feed I get is left wing.

On youtube as an experiment I turn off all left wing suggested videos and youtube still inundates me with left wing videos. Just as an experiment I turn it all off and they still send it to me.

So you have all the top social outlets dedicated to corporatist Democrat leftism and they are literally trying to control the information the public sees.

Your reality is shaped for you.

[Typhoon]

You don't lack for company.

[Mr. Perfect]

The MSMgooglefacebook complex is well know for punishing Bernie Bros. The whole juggernaut is poised behind the Clinton wing of the Democrat Party.

[Mod aside. Had moved the above video to the "Surveillance Society" thread, but that is not quite on point, so this thread will do.]

[Typhoon]

The MSMgooglefacebook complex is well know for punishing Bernie Bros. The whole juggernaut is poised behind the Clinton wing of the Democrat Party.

Suggest forming an alliance with the Bernie Bros. to fight "The Man".

Or should that be updated to "The Woman" or "The Couple"?

[noddy]

the internet is a connection of private enterprises doing what they want to do, paid for by private citizens who give money to the providers of their choice.

you are not entitled to having your viewpoint propagated - conservatives are under no law that forces them to promote progressive agendas, nor vice versa.

some socialist scum believe its shared infrastructure and should be legally forced to be open to all traffic but im under the impression trump wants to remove net neutrality.

if google thinks centre left global corporatism is the best politics for them, they will promote it, they would be idiots not to.

[Typhoon]

Quite.

Been spending most their lives
Surfin' a libertarian's paradise

[noddy]

one thing thats somewhat interesting about this is that even tho a hugely liberal site like reddit will not show /r/The_Donald on front page searches they refuse to shut it down, despite protests from lefties, due to the amount of click revenue it generates.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

one thing thats somewhat interesting about this is that even tho a hugely liberal site like reddit will not show /r/The_Donald on front page searches they refuse to shut it down, despite protests from lefties, due to the amount of click revenue it generates.

first thing which comes to mind: no taxation without representation

He who pays the piper calls the tunes. And that's a problem with these social media sites- having a facebook/twitter/instagram doesn't make that person the customer.

These businesses, the ones paying for Social Media to provide them a product have decided that it is time to un-person most people. A [something]-ist dollar no longer counts according to the various Committees of Public Safeties running around and controlling the gateway to these companies.

...unless you are reddit; they'll un-person you but gladly take any money you may generate for them.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

'Nother problem brought to my attention is that all the big companies have agreed to EU standards of speech to be applied globally. So in effect, American 1st amendment has been undercut.

And as the internet is treated as a public square (try running any sort of social campaign without the internet), it effectively cuts down the 1st Amendment for us Americans.

When 95% of all American (maybe world? I dunno) goes through the big social media networks and movie/entertainment channels....the internet is effectively dead and turned into television- its just that no one has called in time of death yet...but that will be coming.

...maybe right around the time one of these sites add the equivalent point system they use behind the great firewall of China.

[noddy]

my cynicism long decided that internet would end up like public tv but with added realtime "BUY NOW" buttons.

it can be no other way. its what everyone wants, the same pressures that create the bland corporations.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

my cynicism long decided that internet would end up like public tv but with added realtime "BUY NOW" buttons.

it can be no other way. its what everyone wants, the same pressures that create the bland corporations.

You're right. The majority of people want expanded public tv and changing who sets the rules doesn't effect that part. I'm just glad I got to see the wild west phase.

[Simple Minded]

one thing thats somewhat interesting about this is that even tho a hugely liberal site like reddit will not show /r/The_Donald on front page searches they refuse to shut it down, despite protests from lefties, due to the amount of click revenue it generates.

first thing which comes to mind: no taxation without representation

Love it!

He who pays the piper calls the tunes. And that's a problem with these social media sites- having a facebook/twitter/instagram doesn't make that person the customer.

These businesses, the ones paying for Social Media to provide them a product have decided that it is time to un-person most people. A [something]-ist dollar no longer counts according to the various Committees of Public Safeties running around and controlling the gateway to these companies.

...unless you are reddit; they'll un-person you but gladly take any money you may generate for them.

Hmmm.... Shades of Hilary and the NFL. Calling your potential voters deplorable and demonstrating your discontent in front of audiences who only want to see you use your talents.

Excellent opportunity for the free market to provide alternative vendors.

I remember reading in history books how black people used to be un-personed......

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

one thing thats somewhat interesting about this is that even tho a hugely liberal site like reddit will not show /r/The_Donald on front page searches they refuse to shut it down, despite protests from lefties, due to the amount of click revenue it generates.

first thing which comes to mind: no taxation without representation

Love it!

He who pays the piper calls the tunes. And that's a problem with these social media sites- having a facebook/twitter/instagram doesn't make that person the customer.

These businesses, the ones paying for Social Media to provide them a product have decided that it is time to un-person most people. A [something]-ist dollar no longer counts according to the various Committees of Public Safeties running around and controlling the gateway to these companies.

...unless you are reddit; they'll un-person you but gladly take any money you may generate for them.

Hmmm.... Shades of Hilary and the NFL. Calling your potential voters deplorable and demonstrating your discontent in front of audiences who only want to see you use your talents.

Excellent opportunity for the free market to provide alternative vendors.

I remember reading in history books how black people used to be un-personed......

Was that before of after Nixon broke up the Beatles?

Yeah, it's an excellent opportunity for personalized sandboxes for a lot of these places. Though the alternatives, to the best of the my knowledge, have largely been failures because it's awfully hard to dissuade people from using things they are familiar with. It's tough to beat popularity. Certain platforms are de facto standards. Not everyone wants to be walled away. Money people are intimidated out of supporting alternatives. New services take years to play catch up.....

I'm sure there's more. Pick a group of 'em, and persuade someone to put in that sort of work and further herd people onto your service- it's tough.

The good news is that most of them are fads that continue to make zero monies....and kids hop from one to the other once they are out of fashion. The bad news is that there is a very specific ecosystem where the old media legitimizes the social media sites and in turn, the new media doesn't crush the old one.

Where would Twitter be if it didn't make deals with celebrities/companies/production studios almost from day one? So now Twitter is de facto a legitimate publisher and if you say anything off twitter you are fake news or something....

[Simple Minded]

IIRC, what killed the Beatles was the death of Elvis..... then Michael Jackson became the front man for the Beatles, but it just wasn't the same vibe....

but ever since Google stripped me of personage, I really can't be sure of anything.

tis fascinating times, no one fears ex-communication anymore, unless it is via social media. Kinda cool to know that even in the Information Age, freedom of association is still a huge factor in human herding.

Luckily I as the center of the universe with god-like powers to project and reject shall never change. Ironic that in the age of ubiquitous and instant communication, confirmation bias and narrow-mindedness has never been easier.

unfortunately, now that all the big issues have been solved, we're reduced to trivial pursuits...

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Ironically enough, nothing is more liberating that being un-personed.

"we're not gonna label individuals with herd identity...we're not gonna label individuals with herd identity...we're not gonna label individuals with herd identity..."

bit long for a chant, that's why I'm woking on a design for a digital tee-shirt, kinda like a small billboard.....you can re-program in real time.

[Mr. Perfect]

the internet is a connection of private enterprises doing what they want to do, paid for by private citizens who give money to the providers of their choice.

you are not entitled to having your viewpoint propagated - conservatives are under no law that forces them to promote progressive agendas, nor vice versa.

some socialist scum believe its shared infrastructure and should be legally forced to be open to all traffic but im under the impression trump wants to remove net neutrality.

if google thinks centre left global corporatism is the best politics for them, they will promote it, they would be idiots not to.

Once again, never the issue. The issue is people lying. I have every right to point out when people are lying, it is part of the market process. Also, your comments speak to the comfort that many have toward having a manufactured reality.

[Zack Morris]

the internet is a connection of private enterprises doing what they want to do, paid for by private citizens who give money to the providers of their choice.

you are not entitled to having your viewpoint propagated - conservatives are under no law that forces them to promote progressive agendas, nor vice versa.

some socialist scum believe its shared infrastructure and should be legally forced to be open to all traffic but im under the impression trump wants to remove net neutrality.

if google thinks centre left global corporatism is the best politics for them, they will promote it, they would be idiots not to.

Once again, never the issue. The issue is people lying. I have every right to point out when people are lying, it is part of the market process. Also, your comments speak to the comfort that many have toward having a manufactured reality.

Nobody's stopping you from pointing that out, ergo there isn't any problem here. The better question to ponder is why conservatives can't launch any successful (or even truthful!) media platforms of their own. There was that amateurish Twitter competitor for neo-Nazis founded by an angsty Republican upset at Twitter for the same reasons you are. It went nowhere because they ended up having to censor the very deplorables they built their platform on for being too deplorable!

[Mr. Perfect]

Hey thanks for chiming in from the permanent superminority districts. Even with complete ownership of the corporate narrative you managed to secure record low seats for your "party".

The issue here is a moral discussion, so obviously you won't have any input.

[noddy]

social media is dominated by the young and the unemployed, its going to be a left wing thing by default.

people with jobs and families just dont spend as much time on it, or care about it.

[Simple Minded]

social media is dominated by the young and the unemployed, its going to be a left wing thing by default.

people with jobs and families just dont spend as much time on it, or care about it.

Yep. Kinda like a radio station playing whatever the listeners request.

Social media is kinda like huge virtual playground or daycare center for the young. Or a virtual retirement home for those who are elderly or shut-ins, but young at heart..... and still able to dream!

It's like listening to the current crop of AGWer's or other doomer porn groups. They live in a confirmation bias echo chamber, and they're absolutely convinced that they are right with the certainty of an insular religious zealot.

One just shakes one's head and thinks "They are not old enough to remember any previous failed doomsday religions."

Proselytizing is fun! Even more fun knowing the whole world might hear your wisdom!

But, hey, when it comes to saving the world, if not me, who?

If not now, when?

[Doc]

the internet is a connection of private enterprises doing what they want to do, paid for by private citizens who give money to the providers of their choice.

you are not entitled to having your viewpoint propagated - conservatives are under no law that forces them to promote progressive agendas, nor vice versa.

some socialist scum believe its shared infrastructure and should be legally forced to be open to all traffic but im under the impression trump wants to remove net neutrality.

if google thinks centre left global corporatism is the best politics for them, they will promote it, they would be idiots not to.

Once again, never the issue. The issue is people lying. I have every right to point out when people are lying, it is part of the market process. Also, your comments speak to the comfort that many have toward having a manufactured reality.

Nobody's stopping you from pointing that out, ergo there isn't any problem here. The better question to ponder is why conservatives can't launch any successful (or even truthful!) media platforms of their own. There was that amateurish Twitter competitor for neo-Nazis founded by an angsty Republican upset at Twitter for the same reasons you are. It went nowhere because they ended up having to censor the very deplorables they built their platform on for being too deplorable!

It is a rigged left wing game of the blue check mark people. If any of the BLue check mark people give you a black check mark you are suspended no matter what you posted. Teh blue check mark peopld being mostly Hollowood types.

[Zack Morris]

Hey thanks for chiming in from the permanent superminority districts.

At 30% of the population (and the wrong side of the Bell Curve to boot), your days are numbered.

Even with complete ownership of the corporate narrative you managed to secure record low seats for your "party".

The pendulum will swing back. And the retribution will be fierce.

The issue here is a moral discussion, so obviously you won't have any input.

That's rich coming from someone for whom there is no line that the GOPedophiles and GOP*ssygrabbers cannot cross.

[Doc]

Hey thanks for chiming in from the permanent superminority districts.

At 30% of the population (and the wrong side of the Bell Curve to boot), your days are numbered.

Complete spin before the election Trump had similar numbers in the polls The only polls that count are the votes at the polls. Everything else is just statistics.

Even with complete ownership of the corporate narrative you managed to secure record low seats for your "party".

The pendulum will swing back. And the retribution will be fierce.

It has been heading the same direction for a long time.

The issue here is a moral discussion, so obviously you won't have any input.

That's rich coming from someone for whom there is no line that the GOPedophiles and GOP*ssygrabbers cannot cross.

Lately it has been all leftists that are pedophiles Zack What is it up to for just Big democratic sponsor Harvey Weinstein 70 women? Twitter even defending the guy when Rose McGowan went after him Suspending her account for calling him out.

I will say this though Silicon Valley billions are pretty stupid when you get right down to it. Or maybe it is just that they have so much money they don't care anymore. But I will tell you something If Twitter gave me teh option to buy say 100,000 shares of Twitter at the current price in say 6 months in exchange took my advice I will walk away with millions. It is just unbelievable to me how stupid they actually are.

[Zack Morris]

Complete spin before the election Trump had similar numbers in the polls The only polls that count are the votes at the polls. Everything else is just statistics.

The election results were within the margin of error of the major polling. Russian meddling obviously had some impact, too. But what's not spin is Trump's historically low approval rating. If you think you're smoothly sailing into Steve Bannon's all-white closed-borders future, then please keep thinking that.

It has been heading the same direction for a long time.

No it hasn't. The basis of our culture war was pretty accurately described in a work by Karen Stenner way back in 2005. We are not drifting in one direction. More than half of America is perfectly happy with where the country was heading. Trumpism is the result of a technicality that dilutes the voting power of the nation's major population centers, resulting in an absurd situation where a deeply unpopular leader can lose the popular vote by 3 million votes (a historic margin for this situation) and still be elected. Trump has found no legislative success and operates entirely through executive fiat and vengeance politics. This is not American culture "drifting".

This is only one round of a prolonged fight that you're ultimately going to lose because your worldview is both untenable and deeply unpopular.

Lately it has been all leftists that are pedophiles Zack What is it up to for just Big democratic sponsor Harvey Weinstein 70 women? Twitter even defending the guy when Rose McGowan went after him Suspending her account for calling him out.

Nobody was defending Weinstein. Least of all Twitter which has a pretty clear policy on posting people's personal information.

I will say this though Silicon Valley billions are pretty stupid when you get right down to it.

But are they stupider than the Trump/Ross (although I think we learned that like Trump he is also a 'fake' billionaire worth substantially less than claimed)/Icahn clique? You'd be hard pressed to make that case.

Or maybe it is just that they have so much money they don't care anymore. But I will tell you something If Twitter gave me teh option to buy say 100,000 shares of Twitter at the current price in say 6 months in exchange took my advice I will walk away with millions. It is just unbelievable to me how stupid they actually are.

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Haha! I'm sure you could turn around Twitter. Someone needs to get you the boards' ears right away!

[Doc]

Complete spin before the election Trump had similar numbers in the polls The only polls that count are the votes at the polls. Everything else is just statistics.

The election results were within the margin of error of the major polling.

ROTFLMAO !!!! When was this Zack? The day after the election?

Russian meddling obviously had some impact, too.

EXACTLY WHAT IMPACT was that Zack? That Trump lost a few votes on a Facebook campaign that spent $125,000 dollars in ads designed to hurt Trump?

But what's not spin is Trump's historically low approval rating. If you think you're smoothly sailing into Steve Bannon's all-white closed-borders future, then please keep thinking that.

It has been heading the same direction for a long time.

No it hasn't. The basis of our culture war was pretty accurately described in a work by Karen Stenner way back in 2005. We are not drifting in one direction. More than half of America is perfectly happy with where the country was heading. Trumpism is the result of a technicality that dilutes the voting power of the nation's major population centers, resulting in an absurd situation where a deeply unpopular leader can lose the popular vote by 3 million votes (a historic margin for this situation) and still be elected. Trump has found no legislative success and operates entirely through executive fiat and vengeance politics. This is not American culture "drifting".

This is only one round of a prolonged fight that you're ultimately going to lose because your worldview is both untenable and deeply unpopular.

Ah Zack You do realize that Hillary has a lower approval rating that Trump, don't you? So how do you like them apples ZackBob? https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/ ... ton-242398

Trump hits new low in public opinion — but he's still beating Hillary Clinton

By LOUIS NELSON

09/06/2017 02:33 PM EDT

Yeah yeah I know. Those damn Russians interfering in our opinion polls.

Lately it has been all leftists that are pedophiles Zack What is it up to for just Big democratic sponsor Harvey Weinstein 70 women? Twitter even defending the guy when Rose McGowan went after him Suspending her account for calling him out.

Nobody was defending Weinstein. Least of all Twitter which has a pretty clear policy on posting people's personal information.

Pffftt !! The left defended Weinstein for decades. Left wing politicians were all to happy to look the other way when they took his money. Hillary took lots of it and says she plans to donate it to an unnamed charity (Perhaps the Clinton foundation) presumably over a several year period as part of her annual tax deduction giving

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hi ... 18af06157d

Hillary Clinton Announces Vague Plan To 'Donate' Harvey Weinstein Campaign Money
"I give 10 percent of my income to charity every year," the 2016 presidential candidate said. "This will be part of that."

And of course you have to spew tne Alt-reality view that Bannon is somehow a "racist" First there is no such thing as different races of humans scientifically outside of Progressive/Nazi pseudo science. Therefore anyone using the term "race" or "racist" in such a manner (in general,without quotes) is inherently self identifying as a "racist"

But in Alt-Reality Bannon "is a racist"

I will say this though Silicon Valley billions are pretty stupid when you get right down to it.

But are they stupider than the Trump/Ross (although I think we learned that like Trump he is also a 'fake' billionaire worth substantially less than claimed)/Icahn clique? You'd be hard pressed to make that case.

Or maybe it is just that they have so much money they don't care anymore. But I will tell you something If Twitter gave me teh option to buy say 100,000 shares of Twitter at the current price in say 6 months in exchange took my advice I will walk away with millions. It is just unbelievable to me how stupid they actually are.

Haha! I'm sure you could turn around Twitter. Someone needs to get you the boards' ears right away![/quote]

Yeah like I said they are stupid. But of course if I was a stock holder, I would push to remove the board and the CEO

Though they seem to know something you don't Zack -- RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES

https://www.dispatchtribunal.com/2017/1 ... stock.html

Twitter, Inc. (TWTR) Insider Sells $115,616.26 in Stock

https://ledgergazette.com/2017/11/11/tw ... stock.html

Twitter, Inc. (NYSE:TWTR) Director Sells $42,126,318.00 in Stock

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[Simple Minded]

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