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Doc wrote:.

"Peak Orwell"


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Poll commissioned by Tony Blair says Britons DO want Hard Brexit and demand fewer migrants, demolishing the ex-PM's claims that the country doesn't want to leave the EU

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Tony Blair has insisted voters are changing their minds on Brexit – despite his own opinion poll showing overwhelming support for leaving the EU.

The former prime minister claimed it is ‘possible now that Brexit doesn’t happen’ as ‘public opinion is moving’.

But he was undermined by a poll he commissioned which revealed 56 per cent believe ‘Brexit must mean Brexit’.
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When you say too much...

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Entirely true?

Hmmm, probably not.

But funny nonetheless :lol:

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:D :D :D
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UK risks being ‘wiped off the map with nuclear counterstrike’
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The UK, which recently said it could launch a preemptive nuclear strike “in the most extreme circumstances,” runs the risk of being “wiped off the face of the Earth,” the deputy head of a Russian upper house committee said.

“The statement made by UK’s Defense Minister Michael Fallon calls for a harsh response and I’m not afraid of going too far. At best this statement may be seen as an element of a psychological war, which looks especially revolting in this context,” Frants Klintsevich wrote on Facebook.

“There is a quite natural question then: what country could be primitively targeted by the UK?” the deputy head of the Federation Council’s Committee for Defense and Security said.

In case the UK strikes a nuclear power, then “the UK, which doesn’t have vast territory, will be literally wiped off from the face of the earth with a counterstrike,” Klintsevich said.

In the event of targeting a non-nuclear country, this will remind of the US nuclear attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he added.

Makes sense


Am not sure, either PM May a total idi*t, or she thinking others idi*t.

When she says UK would not hesitate to launch a preemptive nuclear strike .. what should China and Russia think of that ? ? ?

And .. that validates Ayatollahs now being a "nuclear power" .. thanks God our beloved Persia now a nuclear power.

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:UK risks being ‘wiped off the map with nuclear counterstrike’
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The UK, which recently said it could launch a preemptive nuclear strike “in the most extreme circumstances,” runs the risk of being “wiped off the face of the Earth,” the deputy head of a Russian upper house committee said.
First, this is old "news". This was end April, four months ago.

Then, that Russian senator is either:
a) totally misinformed or
b) an idi0t.

Michael Fallon did not speak of any "preemptive nuclear strike", contrary to what Mr Klintsevich believes. He said:
Theresa May would fire Britain’s nuclear weapons as a ‘first strike’ if necessary, the Defence Secretary has said. Michael Fallon said the Prime Minister was prepared to launch Trident in “the most extreme circumstances”, even if Britain itself was not under nuclear attack.
Which is a simple and straightforward consequence of the fact that it is possible to threaten or destroy what is vital to British people, such as independence of their country or survival of its population, even without using nuclear weapons.

For whoever had not readily understood, Fallon further added:
The whole point about the deterrent is that you have got to leave uncertainty in the mind of anyone who might be thinking of using weapons against this country.
This is incidentally the same as Russian doctrine on nuclear weapons:
The Russian Federation shall reserve the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and/or its allies, as well as in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy.
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Alexis wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:UK risks being ‘wiped off the map with nuclear counterstrike’
Russian senator

The UK, which recently said it could launch a preemptive nuclear strike “in the most extreme circumstances,” runs the risk of being “wiped off the face of the Earth,” the deputy head of a Russian upper house committee said.
First, this is old "news". This was end April, four months ago.

Then, that Russian senator is either:
a) totally misinformed or
b) an idi0t.

Michael Fallon did not speak of any "preemptive nuclear strike", contrary to what Mr Klintsevich believes. He said:
Theresa May would fire Britain’s nuclear weapons as a ‘first strike’ if necessary, the Defence Secretary has said. Michael Fallon said the Prime Minister was prepared to launch Trident in “the most extreme circumstances”, even if Britain itself was not under nuclear attack.
Which is a simple and straightforward consequence of the fact that it is possible to threaten or destroy what is vital to British people, such as independence of their country or survival of its population, even without using nuclear weapons.

For whoever had not readily understood, Fallon further added:
The whole point about the deterrent is that you have got to leave uncertainty in the mind of anyone who might be thinking of using weapons against this country.
This is incidentally the same as Russian doctrine on nuclear weapons:
The Russian Federation shall reserve the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and/or its allies, as well as in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy.
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Alexis, Brits consider a lot of things as "British Vital Interest" .. you remember Tatcher ordered British nuclear subs to torpedo "General Belgrano" when Argentines were defending their territory Malvinas ?

Brits might suddenly think they have to defend their Monkey Sheikhs in Persian Golf and Nuke Iran :lol:

In that sense, mad mullahs have to be idi*ts not to have their own nuke ready, just in case.

Re Russian Senator, Russians hate jokes, better be careful

And .. Look, Alexis, those who where empires, now no more, they must learn to "fit in" with the other EX, like Portugal and and

You really think Chinese have forgotten all those nasty things Brits did to Chinese not even 100 yrs ago ?

No such thing as "deterrent" .. you nuke the other guy, you will be nuked .. pretty much double suicide .. it ain't so that you nuke the other side and nothing happens thereafter, not anymore.

So, May better watch her thong



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Azerbaijan’s ruling elite operated a secret $2.9bn (£2.2bn) scheme to pay prominent Europeans, buy luxury goods and launder money through a network of opaque British companies, an investigation by the Guardian reveals.

Leaked data shows that the Azerbaijani leadership, accused of serial human rights abuses, systemic corruption and rigging elections, made more than 16,000 covert payments from 2012 to 2014.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ing-scheme

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YMix wrote:.
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Azerbaijan’s ruling elite operated a secret $2.9bn (£2.2bn) scheme to pay prominent Europeans, buy luxury goods and launder money through a network of opaque British companies, an investigation by the Guardian reveals.

Leaked data shows that the Azerbaijani leadership, accused of serial human rights abuses, systemic corruption and rigging elections, made more than 16,000 covert payments from 2012 to 2014.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ing-scheme

I'm shocked! SHOCKED !

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Present gang fleecing that place are Nakhchivan mafia .. they Iranian provinces less than 120 yrs ago .. Iran preparing take them back into empire :D :lol:

2 crook rulers :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The U.S. and other international trade heavyweights have dashed Prime Minister Theresa May’s hopes of a smooth Brexit by rejecting one of her core plans for reintegrating into global trade networks.

Washington’s slap-down of Britain is the second big trade reality check for May in less than a fortnight. Only last week, the U.K.’s increasingly fragile position in trade disputes was exposed by the country’s inability to prevent new, ultra-high tariffs from the U.S. that could hit thousands of jobs in a plane factory in Northern Ireland.

In a fast-developing second trade spat, Washington has teamed up with Brazil, Argentina, Canada, New Zealand, Uruguay and Thailand to reject Britain’s proposed import arrangements for crucial agricultural goods such as meat, sugar and grains after Brexit. The fact that the U.K.’s opponents include the U.S., Canada and New Zealand is a significant setback because Britain is trying to style its former colonies as natural strategic and commercial allies after it has quit the EU.
http://www.politico.eu/article/us-round ... es-deepen/
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+1 to those two British heroes.

Doesn't seem too far away that free speech, classical liberalism, will be defended with clubs in the UK against the clubs of antifa. From clubs to guns when the state is betraying its classical liberal foundation. The moment blasphemy laws enter the toxic mix being critical of Islam will be considered blasphemous and punishable (on top of being Islamophobic and racist of course) serious instability and more violence seem inevitable. With more extremism on the toxic left and the toxic right as expected.
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caught a short interview with this charming young lady on Tucker Carlson's show....
in the good ole days, she would have been viewed as "open minded."

https://www.city-journal.org/html/speak ... 15662.html

" To say that she is unafraid of controversy or criticism is to understate the case. They are her stock-in-trade. Whatever her other qualities, she is certainly valiant....
If she had espoused views other than the ones that she actually holds, she might have expected sympathy and even admiration for her personal courage; but being, on the contrary, an outspoken, not to say militant, mocker of current political pieties, she is herself the object of the most severe objurgation, with no allowances made....
If Hopkins did not exist, it would be necessary to invent her....
No doubt she is a terrible simplificatrice, but her simplifications often contain more truth than her detractors’ supposedly sophisticated arguments. Moreover, she appears genuinely not to mind when attacked on television or in print or on social media: she accepts with good grace the fact that, if you express opinions in public, you must expect criticism and detraction, fair or otherwise, though she always returns blow for blow. She laughs at insults.
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Liam O Hare on the deep connections between Cambridge Analytica’s parent company Strategic Communication Laboratories (SCL Group) and the Conservative Party and military establishment, ‘Board members include an array of Lords, Tory donors, ex-British army officers and defense contractors. This is scandal that cuts to the heart of the British establishment.’
http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/03/20 ... tish-coup/
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We have had so many of these revelations now - the question has now turned to "and what".

i suspect we are now like china and the fear of civil turmoil and anarchy is far more worrisome than the threat of pernicious authorities.

I wonder how that could ever change.
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Reading the state of Britain with Roger Scruton - Theodore Dalrymple, Library of Law and Liberty, 19 April 2018
http://www.libertylawsite.org/2018/04/1 ... r-scruton/

... In Where We Are, Scruton tackles the subject of Britain’s projected exit from the European Union, thank goodness not from the point of view of its economic effects, splendid or disastrous, or from that of the details of the negotiations, complex and mind-numbing, but from that, loosely-speaking, of political philosophy. ...
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Inside Britain's secretive sharia courts: Veil is lifted on the religious tribunals where downtrodden women plead with judges to dissolve their marriages

Many chickens are coming home to roost in the UK. Going back to the dark middles ages in the name of progress.
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Interesting that they will join UKIP.
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Parodite wrote:zumq1U7NprU

+1 to those two British heroes.

I think I preferred British heroes back when they were mutton-chopped and pith-helmeted genocidaires. These whining racist trolls and their "free speech" grift is harder to respect.

Edge to "Sargon" over "Tommy" though. "Sargon" is just a bore, "Tommy" is a neo-nazi and always has been.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:R9T4dGAxtO0

Pat's looking rough! Haven't seen one of his videos in years. Hope he's getting enough leafy greens.
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True. Age will do it to us all.

Including this guy. He looks terrible. However, you don't seem to be able to rebut anything they say.

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Mr. Perfect wrote:R9T4dGAxtO0
A thoughtful and well-articulated gentleman.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:True. Age will do it to us all.

Including this guy. He looks terrible. However, you don't seem to be able to rebut anything they say.

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Rebuttals are always more interesting that slurs.
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