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Second Brexit effect:

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YMix wrote:Second Brexit effect:

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Why did you guys feel the need to surround the Swiss and isolate the Portuguese? AFAIK, they haven't even voted yet.
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What happened to Portugal and the Baltic States?
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Typhoon wrote:What happened to Portugal and the Baltic States?
F*cking Triangulators spoil the plans of Binoid demagogues everywhere.... ;)
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Typhoon wrote:What happened to Portugal and the Baltic States?
"Invited by Minister Waszczykowski, the foreign ministers of Romania, Bulgaria, Greece and Hungary came to Warsaw alongside secretaries of state and high-ranking officials from the foreign ministries of Spain, Slovakia, Slovenia and Austria. The meeting was also attended by Great Britain’s Minister for European Affairs, David Lidington."

Don't know yet if they weren't invited or refused to attend. Will try to find out more.
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Also:
“Without Georgia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova the European project remains incomplete,” Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski said during a press conference held after his meeting with his Georgian counterpart Mikheil Janelidze, who is visiting Poland.

Apart from bi-lateral issues, the main topics discussed by the two ministers in Warsaw were Georgia’s aspirations to join European and Euro-Atlantic institutions, the upcoming NATO Summit in Warsaw as well as the current situation in Europe.

The ministers both described relations between their two countries as “incredibly friendly”. Minister Waszczykowski stressed that Poland wants to see Georgia join NATO and the European Union in the near future. “We won’t stop our efforts until the project to transform Europe into a free, democratic continent has been completed,” the Polish Foreign Minister added.
Polan' sticking it to the Russians.
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At least according to the latest revision of the World Bank’s PPP-adjusted GDP estimates.

China has long been expected to overtake the US economy (one economist dated it to as early as 2010), and there had already been a flurry in the media when the IMF claimed the same thing in December last year. The World Bank’s new figures just confirm the new reality and scaremongering about a bad night at the irrelevant casino that is the Chinese stockmarket is not going to materially change the fact. Annual growth continues at 7% per year, much the same as South Korea when it was at a similar stage of per capita development in the 1980s.

Russia’s PPP-adjusted GDP actually marginally overtook Germany’s back in 2013, and it managed to maintain this small lead into 2014 despite falling into recession. Of course with GDP expected to fall by around 3% this year, there will almost certainly be a reversal of this, but not by any radical amount – the hystrionical pronunciations of the Western media regardless – and will likely be temporary anyway import substitution really kicks in.

Financial, military, and cultural power are all ultimately functions, if lagging functions, of productive economic power. Although it would be a bad idea to go overboard with it, the spectacle of the same year (give or take) seeing both Russia overtaking the former biggest economy in Europe, and China overtaking the former biggest economy in the world, is really quite symbolic.
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Perhaps. However, I don't recall purchasing any good or service "Made in Russia".
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Simple Minded wrote:
Typhoon wrote:What happened to Portugal and the Baltic States?
F*cking Triangulators spoil the plans of Binoid demagogues everywhere.... ;)
Yep, along with Ireland and Cyprus, their governments were smart enough not to make too much of a fuss about either the Britain and the Russia situation, and instead to... wait and see. :)

Typhoon wrote:Perhaps. However, I don't recall purchasing any good or service "Made in Russia".
Both GDP figures with actual prices, and Trade figures, are better indicators of a prosperity of a country, than GDP figures in distorted prices known as "PPP".

Quite some time ago, a statistician here remarked that a strong correlation exists between GDP per head figures with actual prices and infant mortality. Which is to be expected of course, since low or very low infant mortality is an actual measurable indicator of the well-being of a population.

Well, the correlation between GDP per head figures in PPP and infant mortality... is not significant in the statistical sense. Go figure. :mrgreen:

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“Without Georgia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova the European project remains incomplete,” Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski said during a press conference held after his meeting with his Georgian counterpart Mikheil Janelidze, who is visiting Poland.
Polan' sticking it to the Russians.
Well Waszczykowski is actually right.

The problem is that he has forgotten to add Russia to that list, while the European project is just as incomplete without Russia as it is without Ukraine or Belarus e.g. Integrating Ukraine or Belarus to the EU could be contemplated, just like integrating Russia.

And for quite obvious political reasons, the day of Ukraine's or the other's entry into the EU will have to be the same as day of Russia's entry into the EU.

An alternative could be that Ukraine e.g. enters the EU and not Russia... however NATO has been dismantled first, and of course a general trade agreement has been signed between the EU and Russia similar to the one we have with Turkey. However, since I don't think Waszczykowski would agree with dismantling NATO :mrgreen: ...

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Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras invited on Thursday the leaders of six southern European Union countries to a conference in Athens, Greece, on September 9, which will focus on challenges facing the EU at an economic, political and institutional level.

The conference, which is currently being organized, will include France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Cyprus and Malta.
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It recently emerged security forces have begun making scarecrows in crude attempts to deter refugees trying to enter. In response to criticism over the tactic, Hungarian MEP for the Christian Democratic European Peoples’ Party Gyorgy Schopflin tweeted: “Human images are haram… pig’s head would deter more effectively.”
trumps got nothing on the hungarians, his wall wasnt covered in severed pigs heads (*)

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[Germany's vice-chancellor] also said on Sunday that trade talks between the EU and the US had "de facto failed".

The plan - known as the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership or TTIP - aimed to remove or reduce a wide range of barriers to EU-US trade and investment.

However, the move has been controversial in many of countries involved, including Germany and the UK. Critics say TTIP is driven by big business and would be bad for jobs, consumers and the environment.

In 14 rounds of talks, the two sides had not agreed on a single common chapter out of 27 being discussed, Mr Gabriel said.

"In my opinion the negotiations with the United States have de facto failed, even though nobody is really admitting it," said Mr Gabriel.

He suggested Washington was angry about a deal the EU struck with Canada, because it contained elements the US does not want to see in the TTIP.

"We mustn't submit to the American proposals," said Mr Gabriel, who is head of Germany's centre-left Social Democratic Party, which is in coalition with Mrs Merkel's centre-right Christian Democratic Union.

The BBC's Andrew Walker said ending the negotiations would not be a decision for Mr Gabriel, as he is the leader of centre-left Social Democratic Party, which is in coalition with Mrs Merkel's centre-right Christian Democratic Union.

Nonetheless, Mr Gabriel is an important voice and his view that TTIP has in effect failed is a sign of just how much political difficulty it faces, our correspondent added.
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if the sweet chinese trade starts going away the german opinions will change yet again, i didnt notice any these issues arising during the anglosphere boom times when the money was flowing.

good luck to em but i think they might be stuck between two declining markets soon enough and then things will get very interesting
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YMix wrote:[Germany's vice-chancellor] also said on Sunday that trade talks between the EU and the US had "de facto failed".
The French secretary of state for External Trade Matthias Feckl has announced this morning that France is going to ask termination of TAFTA negotiations end September.

Merkel is going to be under pressure of her vice-chancellor + her main European partner + generally a growing collection of people more sensible on this topic than she seems to be.

Not sure that the Empress of Europe will be able to resist the pressure.
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A multi-million dollar case of corruption and money-laundering, involving the fugitive Russian businessman Leonid Lebedev and his lawyer, now the President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades (lead image), moved to New York this week, as Anastasiades landed for a week of meetings at United Nations headquarters; followed by Lebedev’s jet a few hours later.

Disclosures in a Manhattan court last week confirmed for the first time Lebedev’s emails to and from Anastasiades and his law partner, Theofanis Philippou. Over Lebedev’s opposition to revealing what these records say, the New York court is now set to request the Attorney-General of Cyprus, Judge Costas Clerides, and the Justice Minister, Ionas Nicolaou, to subpoena documents, bank accounts, and other records, plus communications to and from the businesses Anastasiades and Philippou have been supervising in Cyprus on Lebedev’s behalf since 2012; possibly earlier when Lebedev became a Cyprus citizen secretly, with help from Anastasiades and Philippou. That was in March 2011; they then began moving large amounts of cash from Russia through Cyprus companies and trusts into three New York banks.

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Cyprus sources believe Nuland has been threatening the Cyprus president with Lebedev’s evidence.

This Thursday in New York, Anastasiades will be meeting with US Vice President Joe Biden. Biden will reiterate Nuland’s message that the US will finance offshore gas projects, new arms for the Cyprus military, and a land compensation scheme if Anastasiades accepts Turkey’s demands to retain land and property seized by invasion in 1974, and to keep its troops in Cyprus. This is unacceptable to Cyprus voters, including members of Anastasiades’s political party, Democratic Rally (DISY). He needs their backing to run for a second term as president. The election is not due until February 2018, but the manoeuvring on his presidential candidacy has already started. Allegations of corruption by the Cypriot media and political opposition against Anastasiades, his family and business partners are a growing liability for him.

Last week, the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Maria Zakharova, charged the US and NATO allies with pressuring Anastasiades into a deal with the Turks. “We consider some of our Western partners’ persistent attempts to speed up negotiations and push for a solution at all costs to be unacceptable. This is not right. The failure of the [UN Secretary-General Kofi] Annan plan for Cyprus [2004], as we all remember, is evidence of the destructiveness of such external pressure.” Russian officials have said this before. The Russian ministry says it favours an international formula for guaranteeing the Cyprus settlement, removing the Turkish troops from the island and excluding NATO.

In New York Anastasiades has denied through the Greek-language press that he is capitulating under the pressure. The Cyprus Mail, an English-language newspaper favouring the British and US governments, claims the pressure is Russian, not American. The newspaper has editorialized in favour of a new NATO base in Cyprus to camouflage the Turkish forces. “Russia has always backed and encouraged the anti-settlement parties (it even invites their leaders to Moscow for visits), which always applaud Moscow’s efforts to undermine the talks and sow doubts about a settlement. A settlement that would heal divisions in Nato and offer an alternative source of natural gas to Turkey is certainly not in Russia’s interests which is why we should brace ourselves for plenty more unhelpful statements from Ms Zakharova and [Russian ambassador Stanislav] Osadchiy.”

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http://johnhelmer.net/?p=16390
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Express | ‘EU is LAUGHING STOCK of the WORLD!’ Bumbling officials scramble to save Canada trade deal
While all 28 EU member states support the CETA deal, the Belgian region of Wallonia has overruled the entire agreement, to the embarrassment of those involved.

Last night, minister-president of Flanders Geert Bourgeois said: “We’re the laughing stock of the whole world. It’s bad for Wallonia, for Flanders, for Belgium, for Europe, for the whole world.”
Wallonia? Is that another name for Duchy of Grand Fenwick?
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While all 28 EU member states support the CETA deal, the Belgian region of Wallonia has overruled the entire agreement, to the embarrassment of those involved.
Excellent.
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Remember that the founders of the EU wanted to set the stage for a United States of Europe. You start with one currency which will function only in the future with a central European fiscal policy. Which will only be possible with political power also being centralized. The European EU member states however don't want their national sovereignty and especially democracy being transferred or hollowed out which leaves as only possibility to grow the US of Europe by undemocratic stealth. Which is what is happening. Brexit is a small glitch.. I'm not convinced it will stop the process.

What happened with the Belgian Wallonians is important, because it illustrates the problem. It will be used by the EU centralists to push for more central power, as you can't have it that a tiny entity is able to torpedo important trade deals. Canada very unhappy as well as the rest of the EU member states. A perfect case to "streamline" the decision making process and sideline small players and move to majority vote. Anti-centralist forces who think along the lines of Brexit will also use this as an argument: it proves that the EU is not able to function and act fast enough since it is a bureaucratic nightmare and by nature will further hollow out national sovereignty and democracy. That we would all be better off making bilateral trade deals with Canada or whomever as independent nation states, or in a case by case fashion where some European nation states can join and associate freely as "mini blocks" in trade deals with other (big) entities around the world.

These contradicting forces in Europe I think are very dangerous. The irony being that the EU and Euro were launched and sold to the public to "unite Europe and make war much less likely"... in a time that Europe was in fact doing better than ever before and war further away beyond every horizon. Now the old war ghosts are re-emerging instead... with ultra-nationalistic gut sentiments gaining political power in every country in Europe.
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Parodite wrote:Remember that the founders of the EU wanted to set the stage for a United States of Europe. You start with one currency which will function only in the future with a central European fiscal policy. Which will only be possible with political power also being centralized. The European EU member states however don't want their national sovereignty and especially democracy being transferred or hollowed out which leaves as only possibility to grow the US of Europe by undemocratic stealth. Which is what is happening. Brexit is a small glitch.. I'm not convinced it will stop the process.

What happened with the Belgian Wallonians is important, because it illustrates the problem. It will be used by the EU centralists to push for more central power, as you can't have it that a tiny entity is able to torpedo important trade deals. Canada very unhappy as well as the rest of the EU member states. A perfect case to "streamline" the decision making process and sideline small players and move to majority vote. Anti-centralist forces who think along the lines of Brexit will also use this as an argument: it proves that the EU is not able to function and act fast enough since it is a bureaucratic nightmare and by nature will further hollow out national sovereignty and democracy. That we would all be better off making bilateral trade deals with Canada or whomever as independent nation states, or in a case by case fashion where some European nation states can join and associate freely as "mini blocks" in trade deals with other (big) entities around the world.

These contradicting forces in Europe I think are very dangerous. The irony being that the EU and Euro were launched and sold to the public to "unite Europe and make war much less likely"... in a time that Europe was in fact doing better than ever before and war further away beyond every horizon. Now the old war ghosts are re-emerging instead... with ultra-nationalistic gut sentiments gaining political power in every country in Europe.
A very well written statement of the eternal problem of balancing out the competing interests of lots of ever changing "we's" and "me's" in the larger "we" in order to ensure the "common good."

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Europeans greatly overestimate Muslim population, poll shows

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The average French estimate was that 31% of the population was Muslim – almost one in three residents. According to Pew Research, France’s Muslim population actually stood at 7.5% in 2010, or one in 13 people.

French respondents were also widest of the mark when it came to the projected Muslim population in 2020. The average prediction was that Muslims would make up 40% of the French population in four years’ time, almost five times the 8.3% Pew Research projection.

The French were not the only ones to hold such misconceptions: Italian, German and Belgian respondents all guessed that more than a fifth of the resident population was Muslim, while in reality the figure ranges from 3.7% in Italy to 7% in Belgium. All three countries also greatly overstated the expected proportion of Muslim residents in 2020.

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YMix wrote:
Europeans greatly overestimate Muslim population, poll shows

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The average French estimate was that 31% of the population was Muslim – almost one in three residents. According to Pew Research, France’s Muslim population actually stood at 7.5% in 2010, or one in 13 people.

French respondents were also widest of the mark when it came to the projected Muslim population in 2020. The average prediction was that Muslims would make up 40% of the French population in four years’ time, almost five times the 8.3% Pew Research projection.

The French were not the only ones to hold such misconceptions: Italian, German and Belgian respondents all guessed that more than a fifth of the resident population was Muslim, while in reality the figure ranges from 3.7% in Italy to 7% in Belgium. All three countries also greatly overstated the expected proportion of Muslim residents in 2020.

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The "Muslim Under Every Bed" syndrome. Hope this does not turn into "a Muslim in every pot".
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A woman has been denied a second application for a Swiss passport after local residents took offence to her rejection of traditions and her “annoying” campaigning.

Nancy Holten, 42, who was born in the Netherlands, moved to Switzerland when she was eight. She is fluent in Swiss German and her children have Swiss citizenship.

The animal rights activist has campaigned publicly against the local traditions of putting bells around cows’ necks and piglet racing, according to The Local.
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