The U.K.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Ymix confirmed: 5 year olds in charge of the European Union. The fate of their unity depends on the timing of when their mothers call'em home for supper.

[Simple Minded]

EU foreign ministers canceled an informal dinner planned for Sunday night at which they expected to discuss Brexit, saying it would be “inappropriate” after the terror attack in Nice.

Diplomats said some ministers were opposed to talking about the U.K.’s departure from the EU in the presence of its controversial new foreign secretary, Boris Johnson — whose surprise appointment this week drew scorn from his French and German counterparts.

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“The desire of the entire 27 countries to do something with the Brits was frankly not very strong,” said a European diplomat. The source said several ministers felt the meeting was “a very bad idea.”

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Another diplomat said the meeting was canceled because Mogherini did not “have the mandate to talk about Brexit.” The source added that EU leaders are planning to discuss British exit from the EU at an informal gathering in Bratislava on September 16.

Cancelling scheduled meetings to discuss things that are beyond your control, when you have no idea what to do about anything is always progress. I'm optimistic.

[Alexis]

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(and not so off the mark)

[Simple Minded]

think I get it, and I don't even speak EUropean.

[Torchwood]

Sorry to puncture your fantasies, but support for the EU has surged in member states since the awful mess for the UK caused by Brexit has sunk in.

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN1002A0

[Mr. Perfect]

Speaking of punctured fantasies, Pat Condell on British Independence. Amazing, that even now, EUers refuse to respond to the most basic exit arguments.

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[Parodite]

Sorry to puncture your fantasies, but support for the EU has surged in member states since the awful mess for the UK caused by Brexit has sunk in.

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN1002A0

Not too suprising. Morons and willing executioners abound.

[YMix]

PETER HITCHENS: Want to see who started the Iraq War? Look in the mirror

Oh, for goodness’ sake leave the pathetic Blair creature alone. He will never understand what he did and probably didn’t understand it at the time. He isn’t very bright and now lives a lonely, meaningless life of empty speeches delivered to bored businessmen in return for money, which will have to be penance enough. If you want to blame anyone for the Iraq disaster, look at yourselves. I opposed it at the time, and remember how few others did. I don’t really count the Leftist demonstrators, who oppose all wars, just or unjust.

I mean the great mass of patriotic Middle Britain, normal decent people, who were so willingly misled. I mean those scores of MPs of both parties who scuttled, bleating, through the war lobby and now claim, falsely, that they didn’t know the facts. I mean my media colleagues, who have been trained from their earliest years to doubt what they are told, yet swallowed Alastair Campbell’s great dish of steaming tripe without a thought. Come on, how hard was it to see that the danger was invented, that the war was illegal and that it was none of our business? I have no prophetic powers but I could see it.

And yet, diddled so blatantly that even an official report now confirms it, you still don’t learn. How many supposedly responsible voters are currently being fooled by today’s attempt to spin us into a stupid conflict with Russia, a country almost nobody in Whitehall knows anything about or understands? At least as many as were misled by claims of a fictional massacre into supporting the Libya disaster. At least as many as were persuaded by a media chorus to admire Hilary Benn’s feeble, poorly argued speech urging us to bomb Syria.

Is there no idiocy you can’t be gulled into by a bit of atrocity propaganda or the endlessly recycled claim that the chosen target is the new Hitler, who must not be ‘appeased’? A word of advice: if you don’t like atrocities, don’t start wars. Wars are the mother and father of atrocities, and one day they will come home to us, if we keep launching them against others. Vladimir Putin is already being turned into the new Hitler. Nobody who knows anything about Russia thinks this is true. But a couple of weeks ago we more or less secretly sent British troops to Ukraine, a country with which we are not in any way allied, and which is a war zone. Was Parliament asked about ‘Exercise Rapid Trident’? I can find no record of it.

We have just made the daft decision to send 650 scarce troops to Poland and Estonia. This is supposedly in response to a ‘Russian threat’ to these countries for which there is no actual evidence. Apart from the tiny exclave of Kaliningrad, Poland doesn’t even have a border with Russia. As the wise academic Professor Richard Sakwa, whose father served in the pre-war Polish Army, has rightly said: ‘Nato grew to meet the threat it had itself provoked.’ If we are not careful, we shall once again create a war out of our own exaggerated fears and by believing our own propaganda. Any of you who are taken in by this have no right to attack Mr Blair. You are as bad as he is. He and his like couldn’t do what they do without your help.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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sooooo funny


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[Alexis]

sooooo funny

What's so funny about that:

Ms May was challenged by the SNP’s George Kerevan, who asked: "Are you prepared to authorise a nuclear strike that could kill hundreds of thousands of men, women and children?”

Ms May replied with one word: “Yes.”

And what's so surprising, by the way?



Incidentally, you posted in the wrong thread in the wrong subforum. The thread "UK" is located in the "Europe" subforum.

This being related to the fact that Britain - believe it or not - is not in Northern America

[Simple Minded]

This being related to the fact that Britain - believe it or not - is not in Northern America

True, its not located over here. But the French wish is was, don't they?

[Alexis]

This being related to the fact that Britain - believe it or not - is not in Northern America

True, its not located over here. But the French wish is was, don't they?

That's an urban legend and nothing more.

In reality, we in France know and apply the principle: "Keep Your Friends Close, But Your Enemies Closer"

[YMix]

Greater Manchester Assistant Chief Constable Rebekah Sutcliffe was suspended in May after she allegedly 'flashed' Superintendent Sarah Jackson. ACC Sutcliffe, who earns £109,000-a-year and is off work on full pay, reportedly argued that the breast enhancement surgery undergone by Supt Jackson was 'pandering' to men.

Cat fight!

[Nonc Hilaire]

Greater Manchester Assistant Chief Constable Rebekah Sutcliffe was suspended in May after she allegedly 'flashed' Superintendent Sarah Jackson. ACC Sutcliffe, who earns £109,000-a-year and is off work on full pay, reportedly argued that the breast enhancement surgery undergone by Supt Jackson was 'pandering' to men.

Cat fight!

Sounds like Jackson was the Greater Man Chester.

[YMix]

Sutcliffe just wanted to get some things off her chest.

[Nonc Hilaire]

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[Typhoon]

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Indeed.

Reuters | British economy escapes Brexit blow, for now

[I'm a big fan of Looney Tunes and Marvin the Martian.]

[Heracleum Persicum]

sooooo funny

What's so funny about that:

Ms May was challenged by the SNP’s George Kerevan, who asked: "Are you prepared to authorise a nuclear strike that could kill hundreds of thousands of men, women and children?”

Ms May replied with one word: “Yes.”

And what's so surprising, by the way?



Incidentally, you posted in the wrong thread in the wrong subforum. The thread "UK" is located in the "Europe" subforum.

This being related to the fact that Britain - believe it or not - is not in Northern America

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Alexis , this not about British internal or even British foreign policy .. not even about Britain

Morgenland feels validated (mad mullahs saying West thinkin this way, some would not believe) .. Basically, West (Morgenland does not differentiate between Brits and Americans and French etc .. all same mindset) ready to drop a nuclear bomb on innocent people, killing 100s of 1000s of woman and children, if Western "interest" in danger .. this a "moral" issue .. in that sense, ME too should prepare for such world.

That brings us back to "Trump" thread .. as next American presidential election in reality a Brexit style "Referendum" .. Hillary a war monger, she voted YES attacking Iraq, pushed for bombing Syria and no fly zone (Obama said no), was the key for attacking Libya etc etc .. Trump, apparently , saying lets pack and leave


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[Typhoon]

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Grauniad | The post-referendum economy: data defies gloomy UK predictions

Fears that Britain will slide into a post-referendum recession have been allayed after a Guardian analysis showed the latest news on the economy has confounded analysts’ gloomy expectations, with consumer spending strong, unemployment low and the housing market holding steady.

The track record of experts in predicting the future is no better than that of the local fortune teller.

[Mr. Perfect]

Wow, UK economy is getting hammered over brexit.

[YMix]

In post-Brexit GB, the people have spoken and globalism is on the run.

The UK has just passed a massive expansion in surveillance powers, which critics have called "terrifying" and "dangerous".

[...]

The law will force internet providers to record every internet customer's top-level web history in real-time for up to a year, which can be accessed by numerous government departments; force companies to decrypt data on demand -- though the government has never been that clear on exactly how it forces foreign firms to do that that; and even disclose any new security features in products before they launch.

Not only that, the law also gives the intelligence agencies the power to hack into computers and devices of citizens (known as equipment interference), although some protected professions -- such as journalists and medical staff -- are layered with marginally better protections.

In other words, it's the "most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy," according to Jim Killock, director of the Open Rights Group.

The bill was opposed by representatives of the United Nations, all major UK and many leading global privacy and rights groups, and a host of Silicon Valley tech companies alike. Even the parliamentary committee tasked with scrutinizing the bill called some of its provisions "vague".

Or not.

[noddy]

The UK has just passed a massive expansion in surveillance powers, which critics have called "terrifying" and "dangerous".

[...]

The law will force internet providers to record every internet customer's top-level web history in real-time for up to a year, which can be accessed by numerous government departments; force companies to decrypt data on demand -- though the government has never been that clear on exactly how it forces foreign firms to do that that; and even disclose any new security features in products before they launch.

Not only that, the law also gives the intelligence agencies the power to hack into computers and devices of citizens (known as equipment interference), although some protected professions -- such as journalists and medical staff -- are layered with marginally better protections.

In other words, it's the "most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy," according to Jim Killock, director of the Open Rights Group.

The bill was opposed by representatives of the United Nations, all major UK and many leading global privacy and rights groups, and a host of Silicon Valley tech companies alike. Even the parliamentary committee tasked with scrutinizing the bill called some of its provisions "vague".

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Its always refreshing when your most cynical doomer porn moments isnt actualy paranoid enough.

the thing im most fearful of isnt totalitarian government in the grand sense, its petty officials who have personality clashes with 'people like me'

[manolo]

Hi,

The chief medical officer of the UK Tory government has cut recommended alcohol limits for men. This was 21 units per week and was reduced (earlier this year) to 14 units per week. Why? Other European countries are far more liberal, with recommendations in most countries ranging from 21 units to 31 units per week. Why do we get the nanny state?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38466507

A sinister development is the medical officer's recent remarks on the similarity between alcohol and smoking. She says, “This plan is a great start. This is a journey. Look at tobacco.” What journey is she talking about? Prohibition?

I don't know how other people feel, but I'm sick of the nanny state telling me what I can and cannot do with my own money.

Alex.

[YMix]

Move to France.

[Simple Minded]

Hi,

The chief medical officer of the UK Tory government has cut recommended alcohol limits for men. This was 21 units per week and was reduced (earlier this year) to 14 units per week. Why? Other European countries are far more liberal, with recommendations in most countries ranging from 21 units to 31 units per week. Why do we get the nanny state?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38466507

A sinister development is the medical officer's recent remarks on the similarity between alcohol and smoking. She says, “This plan is a great start. This is a journey. Look at tobacco.” What journey is she talking about? Prohibition?

I don't know how other people feel, but I'm sick of the nanny state telling me what I can and cannot do with my own money.

Alex.

Welcome back Alex. When you want someone else to pay for your lifestyle needs, you got to expect their input.

Example, one of my Obama worshipping friends is very overweight and drinks like a fish. He wants others to pay for his healthcare, but thinks that other's expectations that he attain and maintain a healthy weight and healthy lifestyle are intrusions on his freedom. Oddly enough, he does not think that his siphoning off their financial resources is an intrusion on their freedom.

Humans..... rational thought is definitely not one of their strong suits. As they say in the colonies, "You made that bed, now lay in it!"

Cheers.