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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:50 pm

Simple Minded wrote:I think it is a suburb of Transylvania.......


They wish! Unfortunately, it's a suburb of Moldova.
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Re: Moldova

Postby noddy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:50 am

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noddy wrote:id never heard of the place!

another bit of russian exceptionalism.


It goes well with the other mafia "state": Kosovo. That one is Washington's doing.


you can collect the whole set! you need a perfidious alibion one now to balance out the russian slavs and american muslims.


YMix wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:I think it is a suburb of Transylvania.......


They wish! Unfortunately, it's a suburb of Moldova.


Transnistrians was sounding all scifi to me, i was getting visions of jaded euro trash with outrageous techno body mods.
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Re: Moldova

Postby Typhoon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:53 am

Have to admit that while I knew of Moldova, the Transnistrian part, and its issues, is new to me.
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:12 am

noddy wrote:Transnistrians was sounding all scifi to me, i was getting visions of jaded euro trash with outrageous techno body mods.


More like jaded old people waiting for their pensions.
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Re: Moldova

Postby noddy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:51 am

YMix wrote:
noddy wrote:Transnistrians was sounding all scifi to me, i was getting visions of jaded euro trash with outrageous techno body mods.


More like jaded old people waiting for their pensions.


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ruined my vision of a small colony of mila jovovich clones in cosplay.
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Re: Moldova

Postby Simple Minded » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:20 pm

noddy wrote:Transnistrians was sounding all scifi to me, i was getting visions of jaded euro trash with outrageous techno body mods.


The Transnistrians also sounds like an order of monks.

Transnistrians were formerly a very peaceful people, but when Transylvania refused to stop the flood of illegal vampire immigrants crossing the border, advanced cybernetics was the only remaining option.

YMix wrote:More like jaded old people waiting for their pensions.


The best way to fight Vampirism is with more Vampirism. Once the host body is destroyed, the parasites will soon starve. I recommend generous applications of Preparation O.

Hey wait, did I accidently confuse a Moldova thread with one about Western civilization....
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Re: Moldova

Postby Endovelico » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:48 pm

Language, culture, race, religion, history seem to be the only glues we know for any association of humans. We can fight it or we can go along with it and wait a couple of thousand years for humans to evolve... I don't think fighting it will work, so why not try and find a way to go along with it in a peaceful manner?... Eventually the tribes will find some things in common to justify their merger...
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Re: Moldova

Postby Simple Minded » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:11 pm

Endovelico wrote:Language, culture, race, religion, history seem to be the only glues we know for any association of humans. We can fight it or we can go along with it and wait a couple of thousand years for humans to evolve... I don't think fighting it will work, so why not try and find a way to go along with it in a peaceful manner?... Eventually the tribes will find some things in common to justify their merger...


True, but now your talking about "us." ;)

"They" may choose to focus on the differences to rationalize their anger, indignance, and behavior..... just like "they" always do! ;)
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Fri May 15, 2015 7:09 pm

Moldova Expels Advocate of Union With Romania

Moldova has banned a Romanian citizen who champions the cause of reunification with Romania - of which Moldova was once a part.
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Romania said it was seeking details about Moldova’s unexpected decision to expel Romanian national George Simion and ban him from the country for five years.

Simion, who was detained and expelled on Wednesday, heads Actiunea 2012 group, a movement that advocates the unification of Moldova with Romania.

"The authorities in Moldova most likely did not agree with the protest we are planning to hold in [the capital] Chisinau on May 16,” Simion said in a statement.

The rally, organized by the platform Simion leads, together with the "Youths of Moldova" movement, is expected to again demand reunification between Moldova with Romania.

Moldova’s Interior Ministry on Thursday said that Simion was being banned for "activities that could endanger national security”.

Simion was previously banned from entering Moldova in November 2014, however, the ban was lifted only hours afterwards.

Moldova was part of Romania from 1918 to 1940, when it was annexed by the Soviet Union. It became an independent state in 1991.

The two countries share the same ethnic and linguistic background and enjoy close relations. However, there is not much support in Moldova for becoming part of Romania once again. Polls show that only 10 to 20 per cent of Moldovans support reunification.

The former Communist president, Vladimir Voronin, once accused Romania of trying to take over his country.

In 2007, Moldova stopped Romania from opening two consulates in the country, claiming Bucharest would use them to woo Moldovan citizens with citizenship offers. In 2009, Moldova presented the Romanian ambassador with a document calling on Bucharest to refrain from making "provocative statements" about Moldova's statehood, sovereignty and territorial integrity.
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Fri May 15, 2015 7:10 pm

Protests Threaten Moldova's Fragile Government

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A new round of protests could threaten the stability of Moldova's already weak government. The protests, set for May 16-17, will build on the momentum of a large protest held May 3. They come at an inopportune time for Moldova: The ruling coalition does not hold a majority in the government, and the country is facing an economic crisis. If the protests lead to a weakening or collapse of the government, it could slow Moldova's European integration even more.
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Tue May 19, 2015 10:14 am

Igor Dodon, leader of the Socialist Party of Moldova (PSRM), announced the launching of a national campaign called "Moldova Without Oligarchs, Moldova Without Unionists!". The socialists will collect signatures for banning all unionist organizations. Dodon accused the oligarchs ruling Moldova of being ready to turn the country over to Romania as part of an agreement between Washington, Bucharest and Chisinau. According to Dodon, Washington wants to put NATO troops on the Nistru, while Bucharest wants control of the Romanized population and territories of Moldova in order to satisfy its expansionist ambitions and become more influential.
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Re: Moldova

Postby noddy » Tue May 19, 2015 12:36 pm

Igor Dodon wrote:Moldova Without Oligarchs, Moldova Without Unionists!


genuflect the right, genuflect the left, genuflect the bit in the middle!


Igor Dodon wrote:Bucharest wants control of the Romanized population and territories of Moldova in order to satisfy its expansionist ambitions


sounds bout right, got to watch all those old places who used to be contenders, secretly wanting an alternate history that creates greater romanistan.
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Tue May 19, 2015 4:31 pm

noddy wrote:genuflect the right, genuflect the left, genuflect the bit in the middle!


Mmm, he's trying to splinter off the (mainly) young, pro-union, anti-corruption crowd by separating anti-corruption from pro-union.

sounds bout right, got to watch all those old places who used to be contenders, secretly wanting an alternate history that creates greater romanistan.


Not sure I understand.
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Re: Moldova

Postby noddy » Wed May 20, 2015 3:07 am

YMix wrote:
noddy wrote:genuflect the right, genuflect the left, genuflect the bit in the middle!

Mmm, he's trying to splinter off the (mainly) young, pro-union, anti-corruption crowd by separating anti-corruption from pro-union.


oh fair enough - to the anglospherian ear hole it was a hard statement to decode :)


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sounds bout right, got to watch all those old places who used to be contenders, secretly wanting an alternate history that creates greater romanistan.


Not sure I understand.


a lame joke that needs explaining is best forgotten.
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Wed May 20, 2015 4:40 am

noddy wrote:oh fair enough - to the anglospherian ear hole it was a hard statement to decode :)


You're decoding skills are fine. I was just providing some details. Dodon is head of the Socialist Party, which doesn't mean that he's a socialist, but rather that his target is the older, Russian-speaking, probably rural crowd. The people with language and culture ties to Russia and who wouldn't mind turning back the time to before 1989. Also, Dodon is most likely getting money from Russia.

a lame joke that needs explaining is best forgotten.


Kinda like my double-header joke. I understand. :)
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:31 pm

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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:26 pm

Why delinquent Moldova matters
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After President Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea in March 2014, some feverish western politicians and commentators started to detect the Kremlin’s malign hand manipulating every event large and small across Russia’s former Soviet neighbourhood.

They drew particular attention to Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, whose political classes contain vocal, westernised lobbies that rarely waste a chance to point their US and European interlocutors in an anti-Russian direction.

Yet the reality is not so black and white. Since the Soviet Union’s demise in 1991, it never has been. In important respects, the political, economic and social ills that afflict these states are home-grown. You can blame the Russians for a lot, but not for everything.

The most spectacular example of domestically driven delinquency is Moldova. For the past six years, this small country of 3.5m people has been under the sway of political and business elites whose corrupt behaviour resembles that of Viktor Yanukovich, Ukraine’s shamelessly unscrupulous former president.

In contrast to Mr Yanukovich, whose misrule was the fundamental cause of Ukraine’s February 2014 revolution, the elites who have controlled Moldova since 2009 are not pro-Russian. They are, or at least they say they are, pro-European. They have even signed an association agreement with the EU and secured visa-free travel for Moldovans into EU territory.

The Moldovan sinkhole is an embarrassment to European foreign policy strategists. Moldova once promised to be the star performer in the EU’s Eastern Partnership programme for six former Soviet republics. Now it boasts Europe’s most corruption-saturated political system. Moldova’s most egregious scandal is so big as to boggle the mind and on Thursday the government collapsed amid the fallout, plunging the country deeper into political crisis.

About one year ago, it emerged that $1bn, equivalent to an astonishing 15 per cent of Moldova’s gross domestic product, had been siphoned out of three of the nation’s banks. It was an enormous loss for one of Europe’s poorest countries.

Investigators are compiling a dossier on how the money disappeared and where it went. But few Moldovans are confident that it will ever be recovered. Up to 100,000 people filled Chisinau, Moldova’s capital, on September 6 in the largest anti-corruption protest since independence in 1991.

Then on October 15 the authorities placed Vlad Filat, who served as Moldova’s prime minister from 2009 to 2013, under arrest. It was a well-planned, almost theatrical swoop, with masked anti-corruption agents bursting into parliament and handcuffing him.

Predictably, Mr Filat protests his innocence and says his political enemies are making a scapegoat of him. Indeed, it is hardly far-fetched to wonder if Vlad Plahotniuc, his political arch-rival, had something to do with Mr Filat’s stage-managed arrest. On the other hand, investigators are looking into connections between Mr Filat and Ilan Shor, a prime suspect in the banking affair.

For the moment, these details are less important than the overall picture painted by the scandal. What is especially striking is that Mr Filat and Mr Plahotniuc, the dominant figures on Moldova’s political landscape in the post-2009 era, are wealthy business oligarchs as well as politicians.

“The scandal has come to epitomise the [Moldovan] state’s failure to protect the citizens’ interests…This captured state must be returned to its citizens,” Thorbjorn Jagland, a former Norwegian prime minister who is the Council of Europe’s secretary-general, wrote in a recent International New York Times column.

Moldova matters. It borders Romania, an EU and Nato member-state. It also borders Ukraine, whose fate is critical to western-Russian relations. Then there is the problem of Transnistria, a separatist region of eastern Moldova that shelters under Moscow’s protection.

But putting Moldova on the road to stability and prosperity means, first and foremost, uprooting domestic corruption.
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Re: Moldova

Postby YMix » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:33 pm

New PM sworn in. Pro-Russian and pro-European protesters break down the Parliament's doors and enter the building. Well, mostly pro-Russian. The Socialists are rumored to be preparing to bus people into Chisinau. The party is just starting tonight.
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