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YMix wrote:
noddy wrote:with a full disclaimer that judging books by their cover is wrong and childish and ermm yeh blah.

the guy actually looks like a lizard, im waiting for that tongue to flick out
Speaking of weird looking people, meet Ombudsman Victor Ciorbea.

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sure hope those eyes are a product of bifocal effects :)

he surely looks an excellent casting choice as wormtongue.
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PM Grindeanu announced this evening that the Cabinet would meet tomorrow to abrogate Ordinance 13. They're backing down. At least for now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38868736
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i didnt look into the detail before.

did that mean *you* could defraud the gubmint for < $50 grand aswell, or was it only for them ?
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Only for them.
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So what's the next step now that they are backing down?
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Right now everyone wants to be sure that the sons of bitches are actually backing down. The Cabinet met today and abrogated Emergency Ordinance 13. The decree has already been published in the Official Gazette, but I have no idea what it says. Everyone suspects the PSD of trying to fool us somehow.

200,000 people are now in Victoriei Square. I was there from 3 PM to 7 PM to chant with the crowd and wave a flag. :D

The PSD organized a counter-rally in front of the Cotroceni Palace. About 1,000 people showed up. :)
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Any predictions on how this will play in Romania?
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At first glance... the younger generations (those who didn't see Communism for themselves) will probably like it. The older generations will be indifferent.

"Bring some vodka!" - :roll:

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Yesterday was the 100the anniversary of the WWI Battle of Mărășești.

Pictured below: President Klaus Iohannis saluting the memory of the thousands of dead Romanian soldiers. 100 years ago, he would have fought for the other side.

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YMix wrote: . . .

"Where's my lawyer?" - People didn't ask such dumb questions back in the day.
:lol:

Quite.
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FT | How Romania became a popular tech destination
Romania has been a favoured IT outsourcing destination for many years, with competitive advantages including its domestic market of 20m, one of Europe’s fastest-growing economies, and young graduates with good language skills. The country can also build on its communist legacy of excellence in science, mathematics, and technical education. The focus is shifting to using these to develop homegrown innovative companies.
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Start-up finance in Romania can be hard to come by, according to Peter Barta, an angel investor and VC fund manager.
Translation: local banks won't lend to the locals.
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Start-up finance in Romania can be hard to come by, according to Peter Barta, an angel investor and VC fund manager.
Translation: local banks won't lend to the locals.
A good thing then that foreigners have interest in financing them.
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Grauniad | Anti-gay marriage clerk Kim Davis takes her fight from Kentucky to Romania
A referendum on banning same-sex marriage has drawn international anti-gay marriage campaigners to Romania including Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk briefly jailed for refusing to issue marriage licences to gay couples
Lucky Romania . . .
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Typhoon wrote:A good thing then that foreigners have interest in financing them.
The vast majority of local banks are owned by foreign interests.
Typhoon wrote:Grauniad | Anti-gay marriage clerk Kim Davis takes her fight from Kentucky to Romania
A referendum on banning same-sex marriage has drawn international anti-gay marriage campaigners to Romania including Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk briefly jailed for refusing to issue marriage licences to gay couples
Lucky Romania . . .
Yeah. There's going to be a referendum on the issue of family around here, demanded by the Pro Family Coalition (Coaliția pentru familie). The coalition is allegedly getting Russian money and legal advice from "conservative" elements in the USA.
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How Romania became an EU workers' rights 'guinea pig'

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Since a Liberal-Democratic government passed new labour laws in 2011, rights protection has become the privilege of those working for large companies in Romania.

In practice, the law changes have turned the country into a paradox: a seemingly statistical success story with low unemployment and an economy on the rise, but a social disaster, with 40 percent of the country's workforce earning the minimum wage or under, according to experts.

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"In other countries, the minimum wage is the floor below which you shouldn't pay. In Romania, it is an orientation mark," says Stephan Meuser, head of the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung in Romania, a political foundation close to Germany's social democratic party.

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"Representatives of both employers' associations and unions consider that Romania was used as a 'guinea pig' by foreign investors with the support of the troika, to decentralise collective bargaining radically," according to a European Journal of Industrial Relations study by Aurora Trif, a social scientist from Dublin University and lecturer in human resources management.

According to a union official quoted in the study, "all the labour market reforms [in Romania] were initiated and adopted at the recommendation of two players; one is the American Chamber of Commerce and the other one is the Foreign Investors' Council. The Romanian model has been exported to other central and east European countries and foreign investors wish to extend it into western European countries". AmCham and the FIC say they are part of a larger group of at least 17 different business lobby organisations.

The result of this has been "catastrophic" for Romanian society, says Vasile Gogescu.

"We're slowly becoming the working poor," Geogescu said. "Two employees earning each the national minimum wage, if they start a family [together], say they have a child, it's catastrophic. They cannot pay their bills by working, and I'm not talking about paying for whims, but about simply affording everyday basics".
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YMix wrote:
How Romania became an EU workers' rights 'guinea pig'

[...]

Since a Liberal-Democratic government passed new labour laws in 2011, rights protection has become the privilege of those working for large companies in Romania.

In practice, the law changes have turned the country into a paradox: a seemingly statistical success story with low unemployment and an economy on the rise, but a social disaster, with 40 percent of the country's workforce earning the minimum wage or under, according to experts.

[...]

"In other countries, the minimum wage is the floor below which you shouldn't pay. In Romania, it is an orientation mark," says Stephan Meuser, head of the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung in Romania, a political foundation close to Germany's social democratic party.

[...]

"Representatives of both employers' associations and unions consider that Romania was used as a 'guinea pig' by foreign investors with the support of the troika, to decentralise collective bargaining radically," according to a European Journal of Industrial Relations study by Aurora Trif, a social scientist from Dublin University and lecturer in human resources management.

According to a union official quoted in the study, "all the labour market reforms [in Romania] were initiated and adopted at the recommendation of two players; one is the American Chamber of Commerce and the other one is the Foreign Investors' Council. The Romanian model has been exported to other central and east European countries and foreign investors wish to extend it into western European countries". AmCham and the FIC say they are part of a larger group of at least 17 different business lobby organisations.

The result of this has been "catastrophic" for Romanian society, says Vasile Gogescu.

"We're slowly becoming the working poor," Geogescu said. "Two employees earning each the national minimum wage, if they start a family [together], say they have a child, it's catastrophic. They cannot pay their bills by working, and I'm not talking about paying for whims, but about simply affording everyday basics".
Wow! You guys suck at implementing capitalism just as much as we suck at implementing Socialism.

In the Engineering World there is an old saying "Minimum design standards tend to become maximum quality standards."

Like HP, you must long for the good ole days when your ancestors in the Roman Empire ruled the world.... ;)
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seems romania is ahead of the curve on this - the rest of us are degrading back to where they are at.

globalisation and competing with 5 billion desperados who would sell their souls for more food is what it is.
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noddy wrote:seems romania is ahead of the curve on this - the rest of us are degrading back to where they are at.

globalisation and competing with 5 billion desperados who would sell their souls for more food is what it is.
Yep. Hunger is a phenomenal motivator.

Those who constantly pine for the elimination of income inequality don't realize how easy it is to reduce everyone to minimum wage by the stroke of a pen. "We have achieved Social Justice! Yea!"

It is a nasty aspect of humanity that dragging another person down is gratifying, even if one has to sacrifice oneself to do so.

As you have often noted, many of the crabs in the shitty bucket never want to see one of their own crawl out.

In the US, many of those who crawl out of the shitty bucket whitewash their conscience by proselytizing about the evils of the system, rather than simply opening up their now incredibly fat wallets. They feel better and it placates the bucket dwellers. Plus, it doesn't cost them anything.
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King Michael of Romania, the last surviving head of state from World War II, who was credited with pre-emptively saving thousands of lives when, at 22, he had the audacity to arrest the country’s dictator, a puppet of Hitler, died on Tuesday at his residence in Switzerland. He was 96.
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ive vaguely noticed in the background (depsite the news) that the Romanian anti corruption thing is still attracting alot of public outcry.

any opionions ?
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Well, yeah. The SCLW Social Democrats are trying to save their asses by passing a series of nice bills. One would allow the Minister of Justice to interfere with prosecutors, tell them what to investigate and what to leave alone. Two Sundays ago I was at the protest and march. 30,000 turned up in Bucharest, thousands more across the country. At least we let the PSD know we still mean it.

More recently, Gabriela Firea, a jumped up former anchorwoman from fu*king Bacau (Moldova, ours - :roll: ) who got elected mayor of Bucharest and is most likely aspiring to more, decided to set up a Christmas fair in Victoriei Square. That would have made the square unavailable for protests. A bunch of people gathered during the day, packed her fair equipment and loaded it back into trucks (after a fight with the gendarmes). She backed down, but declared that anarchy was coming.

So things are going... as usual. The PSD is trying to gain control of the judiciary, while a bunch of other people march in the streets, urging Liviu Dragnea to go get hanged.
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