Parodite wrote:But Europe has less impoverished neighborhoods where drug trade becomes the only means of making some money. Add the fact that guns exist in much greater number in the US and are much easier to obtain. But the bigger point is that making drugs illegal creates drug cartels, more crime and costs the tax payer plenty of law enforcement etc.
I guess. The Democrats need to keep these people down for some reason.
People differ on how they see their safety served best. So far I'm fine with how my safety is served in the Netherlands where guns are kept out of the street as much as possible minus police officers that are allowed to carry them. If every Joe here would be allowed to carry a gun anywhere it would make me feel less safe. I surely would want a gun myself then too; that's the nature of an arms race. I prefer not to be in an arms race though. Of course if police and gvt start to abuse their position and start to threaten me instead of those who threaten me... i.e. they start to behave like criminals themselves, it might be time for an armed resistance. And as you said: you can buy guns in the black market very easily. So for the moment, no worries.
With real world experience in the US we know a Concealed Carry patriot is many times less likely to murder anyone than a non concealed carry. If you were to come to the US statistically you would be more likely to murder than I.
We have a healthy carry rate, and it has no criminal tie. In America I don't pack to guard against other concealed carry, but against murderous criminals. So there isn't an arms race in that sense.
I've never been in a car accident. But I wear a seatbelt anyway.
To demand a guarantee on safety is over the top. Nobody can guarantee your safety.
Let's rephrase this. Nobody demanded a guarantee, but the government guarantees that it cannot guarantee my safety. This makes me the last line of my defense, and I am entitled to the means of my defense by right.
You said that Europeans are dying to get their hands on guns and start killing. That would not not suggest gunphobia but gunphilia. In either case, it is nonsense.
No I did not say that even slightly. To say this is disingenuous on your part.
I said the premise of gun control working in Europe is that there would have to be many Europeans itching to commit murder but quit because they can't get a hold of any guns, I said this was irrational on it's face
and therefore lower murder rates in Europe would have to be attributed to other factors