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Re: Russia

Postby Simple Minded » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:18 pm

noddy wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
noddy wrote:the entire northern hemisphere seems a bit dodgy of late.


population density is too high.... we need more lebensraum.....


the strine word for it is fowf.


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Re: Russia

Postby Typhoon » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:24 pm

noddy wrote:
Typhoon wrote:
noddy wrote:the entire northern hemisphere seems a bit dodgy of late.


One hopes, if that is indeed the case, then it is not a prelude to On the Beach. :wink:


heh. im not sure im quite that doomer pron about it yet.

however! history isnt that optimistic about what happens when euope, russsia, china and america are all having economic nightmares and poking each other hard via proxy wars.

fear of 'on the beach' is about all thats holding it together.. the scariest thought is a UN agreement to not use nukes, that would unleash hell.


Quite.

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Re: Russia

Postby Typhoon » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:52 pm

Grauniad | MH17 report suggests efforts were made to cover up causes of disaster

This from Endo's favourite English news source. Oh, the betrayal.
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Re: Russia

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:33 pm

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https://www.rt.com/politics/318841-parl ... expansion/

. . a bill that bans municipal and regional lawmakers from keeping assets in foreign banks or own securities issued by foreign companies, a popular business daily reports.

According to Kommersant, the new bill orders lawmakers at federal, regional and municipal levels to annually submit income declarations and report all conflicts of interest. It also bans those people from holding accounts or keeping valuables in foreign banks outside Russia and from owning or trading in foreign securities.

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China will follow .. this could become norm for some nations

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Re: Russia

Postby Typhoon » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:12 pm

Nature | Russian secret service to vet research papers

Moscow biology department among the first to require that all manuscripts comply with law on state secrets.


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Re: Russia

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:29 am




Traffic Jam over Syria .. Russian fighter and US drowns


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Re: Russia

Postby Doc » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:14 am

Russian airliner broke up at high altitude

That can happen three different ways
1) severe weather
The skies were clear
2) midair collision with another aircraft
There were none around
3)External threat -- bomb or missile

The other fractional percent of the time it is due to extremely poor maintenance of the air craft which then suffers a massive structural failure.

Looks like Putin is suffering some blow back from invading Syria. I wonder how much longer before his adventurism catches up to him?

My sympathies to the families over their tragic loss. No sympathy for the of your countrymen that spread so much ugly BS to cover up your countries capability with absolutely no sympathy for the families of MH17
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Re: Russia

Postby Doc » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:26 am

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0e452f9a ... end-monday

The Latest: Metroject: Technical faults did not cause crash
Nov. 2, 2015 5:04 AM EST
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Mideast Egypt Russian Plane Crash

A Russian investigator walks near wreckage a day after a passenger jet bound for St. Petersburg, Russia, crashed in Hassana, Egypt, on Sunday, Nov. 1, 2015. The Metrojet plane, bound for St. Petersburg in Russia, crashed 23 minutes after it took off from Egypt\'s Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh on Saturday morning. The 224 people on board, all Russian except for four Ukrainians and one Belarusian, died. (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)



ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) — The latest developments after a Russian passenger plane crashed in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, killing all 224 people on board Saturday. (all times local).

1 p.m.

A top official at Metrojet, the Russian airline company whose flight crashed Saturday in Egypt, is insisting that a technical fault could not have caused the crash.

Alexander Smirnov, the deputy general director of Metrojet, told reporters Monday in Moscow that no technical fault could have caused the Airbus A320-200 to break up in the air. He says the cause of the crash "could only have been a mechanical impact on the plane" in the air.

Russian investigators say the plane broke up at high altitude but have so far refrained from naming possible causes.

The Metrojet crashed Saturday morning 23 minutes after taking off from Sharm el-Sheikh, killing all 224 on board, the vast majority of them Russians.

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11:50 a.m.

A Russian official says forensic experts have begun identifying the bodies of the 224 victims of the Metrojet plane crash in Egypt.

Yulia Shoigu, chief of the emergency situations ministry's psychological service, made the comment Monday in televised remarks. Russia has sent over 100 emergency workers and aviation experts to help Egypt examine the crash site in the Sinai Peninsula. French, German and Airbus aviation teams are also helping the investigation.

A Russian government plane on Monday brought 140 bodies of plane crash victims to St. Petersburg, where most of the passengers were from. Another plane will be taking more crash victims' bodies to St. Petersburg from Cairo late Monday night.

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10:40 a.m.

Russia's emergency situations minister Vladimir Puchkov says the search for the bodies of victims of the plane crash in Egypt will wrap up in a day.

Puchkov tells a televised press conference Monday that the search in the Sinai Peninsula should wrap up by 10 p.m. Monday.

The Metrojet Airbus A320-200 crashed Saturday morning 23 minutes after taking off from Sharm el-Sheikh, killing all 224 on board. Most were Russian and many were from St. Petersburg.

A Russian government plane took the first 140 bodies from Egypt to St. Petersburg early Monday. Puchkov said another plane will travel from Egypt to St. Petersburg on Monday evening to bring more bodies of plane crash victims.
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Re: Russia

Postby Doc » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:03 am

Too bad Halloween is already past

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Just a rumor/conspiracy theory so far that Putin is forward deploying tactical nukes and evacuating Russia citizens from the ME over the Kogalymavia airliner being brought down.

However he threaten to nuke Mecca last time there was a terror attack in Volgograd. Now purportedly it is ISIS and anyone that get in Putin's way.
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Re: Russia

Postby Alexis » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:55 am

Doc wrote:Just a rumor/conspiracy theory so far that Putin is forward deploying tactical nukes and evacuating Russia citizens from the ME over the Kogalymavia airliner being brought down.

However he threaten to nuke Mecca last time there was a terror attack in Volgograd. Now purportedly it is ISIS and anyone that get in Putin's way.


Yes, there is also that idea that Putin is in fact one of the Giant Lizards. Just a rumor / conspiracy theory so far. However, he does smile rarely.

The "nuke Mecca" threat about Volgograd terror attack is an urban legend. The actual quote is this one:
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Re: Russia

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:57 pm

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This doping rubbish just "cheap" anti Russian PR
.. all athletes dope, normal procedure.


and


Putin :
US missile defense aimed at neutralizing Russia nukes,
N. Korea & Iran just a cover



US knows "Missile defense" rubbish .. only one missile needs to get through and BANG

But why all this ? ?

To make a case for huge military spending, military industrial complex

America spent trillions and trillions for arms since 1950 to counter Russia (disguised as countering communism)

AND ?

Is America safer now ? ?

Argument could be made, America now less safe than it was 1950

Notion, safety comes with a bigger "stick" to fool (and scare) Joe

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Rogue Launch Missile Defense.......

Postby monster_gardener » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:35 pm

Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

This doping rubbish just "cheap" anti Russian PR
.. all athletes dope, normal procedure.


and


Putin :
US missile defense aimed at neutralizing Russia nukes,
N. Korea & Iran just a cover



US knows "Missile defense" rubbish .. only one missile needs to get through and BANG

But why all this ? ?

To make a case for huge military spending, military industrial complex

America spent trillions and trillions for arms since 1950 to counter Russia (disguised as countering communism)

AND ?

Is America safer now ? ?

Argument could be made, America now less safe than it was 1950

Notion, safety comes with a bigger "stick" to fool (and scare) Joe

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Thank You Very Much for your post, Azari,

US knows "Missile defense" rubbish .. only one missile needs to get through and BANG


Not quite.......

Some degree of Missile defense can guard against an rogue launch of one or a few missiles as is said to have almost happened once or more during the Cold War.........

And could happen again........
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Re: Russia

Postby Typhoon » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:39 am

Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

This doping rubbish just "cheap" anti Russian PR
.. all athletes dope, normal procedure.


Right. On your expert say so. :lol:


and

Heracleum Persicum wrote:Putin :
US missile defense aimed at neutralizing Russia nukes,
N. Korea & Iran just a cover



US knows "Missile defense" rubbish .. only one missile needs to get through and BANG

But why all this ? ?

To make a case for huge military spending, military industrial complex

America spent trillions and trillions for arms since 1950 to counter Russia (disguised as countering communism)

AND ?

Is America safer now ? ?

Argument could be made, America now less safe than it was 1950

Notion, safety comes with a bigger "stick" to fool (and scare) Joe

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If that is the case, then why does Putin have his undies in such as twist about an unworkable missile defense.

Or is he going to fall for the same as did the former SU?

Anyways, Russia is a failing state. The only reason anyone pays it any attention is the problem that it still has nuclear weapons.
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Re: Rogue Launch Missile Defense.......

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:43 am

monster_gardener wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

This doping rubbish just "cheap" anti Russian PR
.. all athletes dope, normal procedure.


and


Putin :
US missile defense aimed at neutralizing Russia nukes,
N. Korea & Iran just a cover



US knows "Missile defense" rubbish .. only one missile needs to get through and BANG

But why all this ? ?

To make a case for huge military spending, military industrial complex

America spent trillions and trillions for arms since 1950 to counter Russia (disguised as countering communism)

AND ?

Is America safer now ? ?

Argument could be made, America now less safe than it was 1950

Notion, safety comes with a bigger "stick" to fool (and scare) Joe

.


Thank You Very Much for your post, Azari,

US knows "Missile defense" rubbish .. only one missile needs to get through and BANG


Not quite.......

Some degree of Missile defense can guard against an rogue launch of one or a few missiles as is said to have almost happened once or more during the Cold War.........

And could happen again.......

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Monster, you did not answer the heart of the matter

Is America now safer than 1950 America was ?

By wide margin not

All this "gadgets" , nuke, drones, computer viruses and hacking, chemical and bio stuff and much more .. all now available to poorest nations if they have to, and much more harm can be done with much less, giving small nations a head-start

Who invented and started those evil things ? ? not Iran , neither India not Qaddafi nor Assad.

Who dropped 2 nukes on civilians when instead could drop 3 miles away on water and have same effect ? .. not Iran

So, is America doing all this, and spending trillions and trillions safer now than 1950 ?

By wide margin NOT.

Why not now try Iranian style, SOFT POWER .. be the nice guy :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Russia

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:56 am

Typhoon wrote:.

Heracleum Persicum wrote:Putin :
US missile defense aimed at neutralizing Russia nukes,
N. Korea & Iran just a cover



US knows "Missile defense" rubbish .. only one missile needs to get through and BANG

But why all this ? ?

To make a case for huge military spending, military industrial complex

America spent trillions and trillions for arms since 1950 to counter Russia (disguised as countering communism)

AND ?

Is America safer now ? ?

Argument could be made, America now less safe than it was 1950

Notion, safety comes with a bigger "stick" to fool (and scare) Joe

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If that is the case, then why does Putin have his undies in such as twist about an unworkable missile defense.

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Danger of American "anti missile shield" is in making the "Eggheads", Bolton, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Zionist and Neocons thinking the Anti missile shield will protects them and start doing stupid things in which case uncle Putin must retaliate and BANG

Seems you guys have not learned the lesson how stupid Rumsfeld and Bolton and Neocons are, seems you itching for a few more Iraq and routine beheading on TV.

One has to be a real nuts to not have sank in that western military power does not cut anymore, in contrary.

Why not try 2B a good human being and take in account "other people's interest" too .. it's not all about you .. what about Russian interest ?

Russia finished ? :lol: :roll:

Bonaparte and aDolf thought that too

Come on, Colonel

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Re: Russia

Postby Parodite » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:57 pm

Reliable intel mentions that Putin's days are practically numbered. A coup is at hand. Fasten your seat belts.
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Re: Russia

Postby noddy » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:55 pm

This doping rubbish just "cheap" anti Russian PR .. all athletes dope, normal procedure.


nonsense, all countries have dopers, not all countries force their atheletes to dope and deliberately destroy evidence as a government policy.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34794489

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered an investigation into claims the country's athletes have been part of a systematic doping programme.


still, i agree on the general point that just like cycling, the olympics has zero credability nowdays, its damned if it does, damned if it doesnt, a hot bed of politics and corruption from all angles.

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Re: Russia

Postby Doc » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:10 pm

Parodite wrote:Reliable intel mentions that Putin's days are practically numbered. A coup is at hand. Fasten your seat belts.


Given that Putin just admitted that a terrorist bomb brought down the Russian plane over Sinai and that the number one suspect is ISIS. Which was created in Syria by his ally Assad when he released all the Jihadis in his prisons. I can certainly understand why Putin is facing a Military coup. AS well as why Putin was not so friendly to Assad when he came to visit.
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Re: Russia

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:54 pm

Doc wrote:
Parodite wrote:Reliable intel mentions that Putin's days are practically numbered. A coup is at hand. Fasten your seat belts.


Given that Putin just admitted that a terrorist bomb brought down the Russian plane over Sinai and that the number one suspect is ISIS. Which was created in Syria by his ally Assad when he released all the Jihadis in his prisons. I can certainly understand why Putin is facing a Military coup. AS well as why Putin was not so friendly to Assad when he came to visit.



Doc, this belongs in "Political Levitas", you in the wrong thread. :lol: :lol:

Unless you get your facts correct. :D


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Re: Russia

Postby YMix » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:20 pm

[...]

By sending some of NATO's fleet of mushroom-topped AWACS surveillance planes to patrol the airspace along Turkey's border with Syria, chiefly to coordinate several allied air forces operating out of Incirlik Air Base, NATO will help manage Turkish airspace.

"Publicly NATO had no option but to back Turkey because we have to show we take Article V seriously," one source said, referring to the alliance's mutual defence clause.

"In private, allies are increasingly making the point that support cannot be unconditional and some ask 'why not escort the Russia aircraft out of your airspace as we do in the Baltics?'," he added, alluding to past incursions by Russian fighters close to ex-Soviet NATO members Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

"NATO will increasingly take over management of Turkish airspace, so the Turks will have to be mindful of the fact that we will have eyes in the sky that can give a second opinion on any situation," the NATO source said.

The AWACS fleet reports to NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), but Turkish air force pilots will continue to be under the orders of President Tayyip Erdogan, who is believed at NATO to have given his commanders pre-delegated authority to shoot down air intruders that ignore repeated warnings.

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Re: Russia

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Re: Russia

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:40 am




interesting .. thanx


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Assad as one more Daddy for the ISIS monster......

Postby monster_gardener » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:36 am

Doc wrote:
Parodite wrote:Reliable intel mentions that Putin's days are practically numbered. A coup is at hand. Fasten your seat belts.


Given that Putin just admitted that a terrorist bomb brought down the Russian plane over Sinai and that the number one suspect is ISIS. Which was created in Syria by his ally Assad when he released all the Jihadis in his prisons. I can certainly understand why Putin is facing a Military coup. AS well as why Putin was not so friendly to Assad when he came to visit.


Thank You VERY Much for your post, Doc.

brought down the Russian plane over Sinai and that the number one suspect is ISIS. Which was created in Syria by his ally Assad when he released all the Jihadis in his prisons............................... AS well as why Putin was not so friendly to Assad when he came to visit.


Wondering if you might be referring to this.......

The Ba’athist-jihadi combination, which had functioned throughout the US occupation, was headquartered in Syria. There Bashar al Assad’s regime, Ba’athist as well as Alawite, supported the Sunni effort in Iraq out of Ba’athist solidarity. The results of Assad’s balancing act were tragic for Syria, redounded upon Iraq, and finished both polities’ destruction. Assad’s help to Iraqi Sunnis had not lessened the hatred that Syrian Sunnis bear for his Alawite regime. Moreover, the Sunni Muslims from around the world who had come to and through Syria to fight in Iraq, ended up terribly disappointed that Iraq had ended up largely ruled by Shia, and turned their anger on Assad and on his Alawis.


http://atimes.com/2015/12/romancing-the ... ts-act-ii/



Update: Found an even more explicit link..........

Syria quickly emerged as the main conduit for foreign fighters who swelled the ranks of al Qaeda in Iraq. Militants from Saudi Arabia, Libya, Yemen and elsewhere streamed through the country to join the insurgency. Records captured from al Qaeda in Iraq by U.S. commandos in 2007 showed that 90 percent of the group's foreign fighters had entered Iraq via Syria, with the help of Syrian intelligence agents. The Assad regime also let jihadists out of prison and offered them military training to fight in Iraq, Syrian activists told U.S. diplomats according to Wikileaks cables.

"Assad and his intelligence services took the view that jihad could be nurtured and manipulated to serve the Syrian government's aims," Peter Neumann, director of the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation at King's College London, wrote in 2014 for the London Review of Books. He explained the Assad regime's motive, referring in particular to the ultra-conservative Salafi jihadists:

Allowing the Salafists to go to Iraq was thought to be a good idea for two reasons: first, it got rid of thousands of the most aggressive Salafists with a taste for jihad, packing them off to a foreign war from which many would never return to pose a threat to Assad's secular, minority-dominated government; second, it destabilised the occupation of Iraq and thwarted Bush's quest to topple authoritarian regimes (everyone in Assad's inner circle feared that Syria would be next).

In 2011, as peaceful protests erupted against Assad's repressive regime, the government released more jihadists from prison. Syrian activists and terrorism analysts argue that this was a deliberate ploy to discredit the nonviolent opposition by fueling a violent insurgency.

Some jihadists saw the same scheme, but played along anyway. "The Islamists were sure that the Assad regime had offered the amnesty knowing full well that they would take up arms against it, and that kind of self-fulfilling prophecy ...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/put ... 85030b2368

Hat Tips to LzzrdGrrl, Jim (not) The Moron & Azari for the Romancing the Sunni link.........
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Re: Russia

Postby YMix » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:31 pm

Parodite wrote:Reliable intel mentions that Putin's days are practically numbered. A coup is at hand. Fasten your seat belts.


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