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Protesters Burn Effigies of Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro
Also use petrol bombs as police spray tear gas, water cannons
Opposition members burn Nicolas Maduro effigies in Caracas / AP

Opposition members burn Nicolas Maduro effigies in Caracas / AP

BY: Daniel Wiser
April 21, 2014 6:14 pm

Protests in Venezuela continued over the weekend following President Nicolas Maduro’s refusal to offer concessions in talks with the opposition.

Masked protesters burned effigies of Maduro and used petrol bombs as police sprayed them with tear gas and water cannons. Many of the protesters are peaceful but some have resorted to violence.

The unrest has resulted in about 40 deaths, which the opposition blames on state security forces and pro-government militias known as “colectivos.” Some U.S. lawmakers have pressed for sanctions against the government in response.

“There are many who have already died and it’s for them that we’re here,” one protester told the BBC. “They’re not going to have an Easter again, nor carnival.”

Recent talks between Maduro and the opposition yielded few concrete results. Opposition leaders say the mismanagement of Maduro and his predecessor Hugo Chavez, the late strongman who ruled Venezuela for 14 years, has culminated in soaring crime rates, rampant inflation, and shortages of more than one in four basic goods.

Two time opposition presidential candidate Henrique Capriles blasted Maduro at the talks for failing to address the country’s problems and excluding the opposition from governance. Maduro narrowly beat Capriles in elections last April, but the ruling Socialist Party controls all of the country’s institutions.

National Assembly President Diosdado Cabello, a member of Maduro’s party, tweeted that Capriles was a “fascist murderer” as he spoke.

“How are you going to ask for the country to accept you when you call them fascists and threaten them?” Capriles said. “They’re not going to respect you. And it’s very difficult to govern a country with half of it against you.”

The opposition demands that Maduro release jailed protesters and leaders such as Leopoldo Lopez. Maduro has said the talks are not about “negotiations” or “deals” but simply facilitating dialogue.

Roger Noriega, former assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs during the George W. Bush administration, said in an interview that he recently met with some university students who participated in the Venezuela protests. Student protesters have declined to join the more moderate opposition leaders at the talks.

“They’re really sincere young people who see that the future holds very little for them,” Noriega said. “These inconsequential talks, while the government continues to crack down on them, are not going to satisfy those people.”

Sen. Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) has continued to push for U.S. sanctions against human rights abusers in Venezuela. Both the House and Senate have so far passed resolutions condemning violence used against protesters.

Rubio’s office is reportedly working on a list of Venezuelan government officials and private citizens who could be sanctioned with U.S. visa bans and asset freezes. Venezuelans with close ties to the government have been known to frequent South Florida’s beaches on the weekend and start U.S. businesses.

Sen. Bill Nelson (D., Fla.) recently backed Rubio’s call for sanctions at an event in Doral, Fla., an area populated by many Venezuelan-Americans.

“There is bipartisan Democrat and Republican consensus that we’re on the side of the Venezuelan people,” Rubio said.

The State Department did not respond to a request for comment by press time. Officials have previously said they would consider sanctions but are willing to give the talks a chance to work.

Noriega described U.S. policy toward Venezuela as “basically a liberty vs. stability debate.”

“The folks in the bipartisan core in Congress say that the United States should be on the side of folks that want to bring about meaningful change in the country against a regime that is clearly undemocratic and forfeiting legitimacy because of the use of force,” he said. “You’re going to need to have significant change there to get beyond these problems.”

The State Department has adopted a more cautious approach, expressing concerns about the short-term effects of the unrest on the economy and stability in Venezuela. Officials note that other South American nations helped broker the dialogue.

“They have a strong argument,” Noriega said. “The problem is the people sponsoring the dialogue have been saying for the last 15 years that they want democracy in Venezuela, but they have stood by and done nothing as democracy was dismantled.”

“How much longer do people have to wait to get a better government in Venezuela? The answer I guess is a few more weeks.”
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Doc wrote:What is all too clear is that Venezuelan is run but thugs. The opposition has been arrested. Public Protests have been "Banned" Which merely turned the protests more violent. But some feel it is more important to cover it up what is really going on with petty distractions.
I know what Chavez was and what Maduro is. But don't bother telling me that:

1 - everything will be just peachy with a gang of US-approved thugs in charge;

2 - the US Government gives a sh!t about the average Venezuelan.

Also, lol at the opposition politicians who take money from a foreign power. If this happened in the USA, you'd be screaming about treason and hanging.
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Doc wrote:What is all too clear is that Venezuelan is run but thugs. The opposition has been arrested. Public Protests have been "Banned" Which merely turned the protests more violent. But some feel it is more important to cover it up what is really going on with petty distractions.
I know what Chavez was and what Maduro is. But don't bother telling me that:

1 - everything will be just peachy with a gang of US-approved thugs in charge;

2 - the US Government gives a sh!t about the average Venezuelan.

Also, lol at the opposition politicians who take money from a foreign power. If this happened in the USA, you'd be screaming about treason and hanging.
BOTH diversions from the facts on the ground

So which of the below do you figure I would be screaming about if they happened in the US of A?

1)Imprisonment of opposition party leaders.

2)Curtailment (as much as possible) of freedom of the press.

3)State Sponsored thugs/militia/bajii

4)Banning of public protests.
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Doc wrote:So which of the below do you figure I would be screaming about if they happened in the US of A?
5) US party taking money from a hostile foreign power.
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Doc wrote:So which of the below do you figure I would be screaming about if they happened in the US of A?
5) US party taking money from a hostile foreign power.
Yeah the democrats do a lot of that. I suppose that would justify

1)Imprisonment of Democratic party leaders.

2)Curtailment (as much as possible) of freedom of the press.

3)State Sponsored thugs/militia/bajii

4)Banning of public protests.

Right?
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Doc wrote:Yeah the democrats do a lot of that.
Really?
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YMix wrote:
Doc wrote:Yeah the democrats do a lot of that.
Really?

Well the Chinese at least.

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The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy was an alleged effort by the People's Republic of China to influence domestic American politics prior to and during the Clinton administration and also involved the fund-raising practices of the administration itself.

While questions regarding the U.S. Democratic Party's fund-raising activities first arose over a Los Angeles Times article published on September 21, 1996,[1] China's alleged role in the affair first gained public attention when Bob Woodward and Brian Duffy of The Washington Post published a story stating that a United States Department of Justice investigation into the fund-raising activities had uncovered evidence that agents of China sought to direct contributions from foreign sources to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) before the 1996 presidential campaign. The journalists wrote that intelligence information had shown the Chinese Embassy in Washington, D.C. was used for coordinating contributions to the DNC[2] in violation of United States law forbidding non-American citizens or non-permanent residents from giving monetary donations to United States politicians and political parties. A Republican investigator of the controversy stated the Chinese plan targeted both presidential and congressional United States elections, while Democratic Senators said the evidence showed the Chinese targeted only congressional elections. The Chinese government denied all accusations.
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Obama campaign’s open door to China

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October 10, 2012 | 4:00am
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Obama campaign’s open door to China
Trie: Face of the last raising-campaign-funds-from-China scandal. Photo: Ron Sachs

Suppose you are sitting in the Chinese politburo in Beijing. Would you rather President Obama or Mitt Romney, who’s just declared that the era of American weakness abroad is over, win on Nov. 6?

Well, you can do something about it. Feel free to get out your credit card, pull up Obama’s fund-raising Web site, barackobama.com, and give to the campaign — along with a few thousand of your closest friends. As long as your donation is less than $200, no questions will be asked about whether you’re even a US citizen.

If it’s under $50, there won’t even be a record of it.

It’s illegal for foreign nationals to contribute to US elections. Yet the Obama campaign practically invites foreigners to give.

The Obama-Biden campaign has raised more than $271 million from donations under $200, vs. $69 million for Romney. But the Obama team’s done so in part by abjuring the most basic controls against fraud or illegal foreign donations.

The Government Accountability Institute, a Washington watchdog group, says it’s likely a high percentage of Obama online’s donors aren’t Americans. For starters, a full 43 percent of the traffic on the site barackobama.com comes from foreign Internet provider addresses, versus just 11.9 percent at Romney’s equivalent site.

GAI’s 108-page report on online campaign fund-raising at local, state, and national levels shows that many campaigns have inadequate safeguards against foreign donors influencing this election — but Obama’s stands out as a veritable cesspool.

Obama’s campaign refuses to use industry-standard safeguards against online credit-card fraud. For example, some 90 percent of e-commerce companies (and Romney’s site) use Card Verification Value data, which checks those three or four numbers on the back of the credit card to make sure the card user matches the card holder. The Obama site uses it if you want to buy a T-shirt or hat — but not if you make a donation.

Indeed, the moment you sign up at my.barackobama.com, you get numerous solicitations to donate. When you give, you get a thank you e-mail — even if you happen to live in Shanghai.

One Chinese blogger has posted the Obama thank-you notes for his $3 and $5 donations on his Chinese site — which includes hyperlinks steering visitors to the official Obama fund-raising page.

Multiply those untraceable $3 and $5 donations by a few thousand or tens of thousands of Chinese nationals giving up to the $200 limit, and the money starts to add up.

Why suspect so much Chinese giving? Consider the site Obama.com. It’s owned by Shanghai-based Obama campaign bundler Robert Roche. More than two-thirds of its traffic comes from non-US visitors, nearly 90 percent of them Chinese. And visitors there immediately get directed to barackobama.com, where they become part of the fund-raising mill.

Roche, one of Obama’s top advisers on trade with China, runs a Shanghai-based media company called Acorn, Inc. Chinese banks use Acorn for — what else? — credit-card transactions. One has to be very naive to believe those banks chose Acorn on their own, instead of at the behest of the Chinese government — or that none of those transactions involve contributions to the Obama campaign.

It certainly wouldn’t be the first time China has seen fit to intrude itself in our electoral process. Who can forget Charlie Trie, the Little Rock restaurateur who channeled money from China’s intelligence service to the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign, or then-Vice President Al Gore gathering all that Chinese cash at a California Buddhist temple?

Mind you, our president is officially against letting foreigners influence our elections. He even blasted the Supreme Court for supposedly opening the door for elections to be “bankrolled by foreign entities.”

But his campaign’s actions tell a very different story: At best, it refuses to do anything to prevent foreigners (or fraudsters) from donating.

The Obama campaign clearly doesn’t care. The real question is whether the media, Congress, and the American people do.
Before that there was Korea gate. And of course the countries of Europe had the UN Oil for bribes program.

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And nobody changed the campaign finance laws? :lol:

Also, the Chinese got shafted by Obama.
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YMix wrote:And nobody changed the campaign finance laws? :lol:

Also, the Chinese got shafted by Obama.
In what way form or matter did Obama Shaft the Chinese?

But of course back to your point:
Also, lol at the opposition politicians who take money from a foreign power. If this happened in the USA, you'd be screaming about treason and hanging
Where have I been screaming about treason and hanging them? I think that they are simply crooks and liars beyond comparison.They should be removed and banned from holding public office or even financially benefiting from their stint in public office in any way. That may feel to them like they are being charged with treason and threaten with hanging .. But they will get over it.
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Doc wrote:In what way form or matter did Obama Shaft the Chinese?
Assuming that information to be correct, what did they get for their money?
Where have I been screaming about treason and hanging them? I think that they are simply crooks and liars beyond comparison.They should be removed and banned from holding public office or even financially benefiting from their stint in public office in any way. That may feel to them like they are being charged with treason and threaten with hanging .. But they will get over it.
That should be easily arranged with a reform of the campaign finance laws. Assuming you can get the GOP and the Democracy to support it. I hope you're not holding your breath.
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YMix wrote:
Doc wrote:In what way form or matter did Obama Shaft the Chinese?
Assuming that information to be correct, what did they get for their money?
Where have I been screaming about treason and hanging them? I think that they are simply crooks and liars beyond comparison.They should be removed and banned from holding public office or even financially benefiting from their stint in public office in any way. That may feel to them like they are being charged with treason and threaten with hanging .. But they will get over it.
That should be easily arranged with a reform of the campaign finance laws. Assuming you can get the GOP and the Democracy to support it. I hope you're not holding your breath.
The laws are pretty clear that Politician and Political parties cannot by law accept contributions from foreigners. Campaign finance is not the problem getting Democrats to enforce the law apparently is.
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Doc wrote:The laws are pretty clear that Politician and Political parties cannot by law accept contributions from foreigners.
That was obsolete as far back as WWII because corporations based outside the USA were allowed to give money.
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YMix wrote:
Doc wrote:The laws are pretty clear that Politician and Political parties cannot by law accept contributions from foreigners.
That was obsolete as far back as WWII because corporations based outside the USA were allowed to give money.
You mean US corporations with facilities based outside the US. Now it is something like US corps based outside the US can give money only from US generated income. But I suppose with GE saving billions in US taxes under Obama that there is plenty of money to go around in this admin
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I knew tax cuts were bad!
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YMix wrote:I knew tax cuts were bad!
GE didn't get tax cuts as they would apply to all. What GE got was tax breaks. They hired I believe 960 accountants who reduced GE's tax liability a couple of years ago to ZERO through various tax breaks. Corporate tax rates are the highest in the developed world in the US. Unless the corporation is a multi-national then often as in Ge's case the tax liability is the lowest. Leaving it up to the smaller exclusively US corporations to foot the tax bill.
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Ban all tax havens.
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YMix wrote:Ban all tax havens.

Better yet: ban big government.
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Caracas Goes Thirsty as Taps Run Dry and Bottles Vanish
Residents of the Venezuelan capital of Caracas, who already struggle to find toilet paper and deodorant, are facing a new shortage -- drinking water.

The rationing of tap water amid a drought and a shortage of bottles because of currency controls are forcing people to form long lines at grocery stores and bottle shops as soon as deliveries are made. Truck drivers spend much of their day outside water dispatch centers as they try to meet demand.
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Typhoon wrote:Caracas Goes Thirsty as Taps Run Dry and Bottles Vanish
Residents of the Venezuelan capital of Caracas, who already struggle to find toilet paper and deodorant, are facing a new shortage -- drinking water.

The rationing of tap water amid a drought and a shortage of bottles because of currency controls are forcing people to form long lines at grocery stores and bottle shops as soon as deliveries are made. Truck drivers spend much of their day outside water dispatch centers as they try to meet demand.
Only idiots like Chavez and Maduro would think about digging up those water mains and sending them to Cuba...
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Typhoon wrote:Caracas Goes Thirsty as Taps Run Dry and Bottles Vanish
Residents of the Venezuelan capital of Caracas, who already struggle to find toilet paper and deodorant, are facing a new shortage -- drinking water.

The rationing of tap water amid a drought and a shortage of bottles because of currency controls are forcing people to form long lines at grocery stores and bottle shops as soon as deliveries are made. Truck drivers spend much of their day outside water dispatch centers as they try to meet demand.
Only idiots like Chavez and Maduro would think about digging up those water mains and sending them to Cuba...
Thank You Very Much for your post, Endovelico.
Only idiots like Chavez and Maduro
Glad you have seen the light about Chavez & Maduro ;)
digging up those water mains and sending them to Cuba...
That's not the problem....*

Per the article at the link, the problem is

1. The water that comes from the water treatment plants through the water mains is not safe to drink....

2. Maduro & his gang of Chavista Socialists Thugs have so screwed the economy so that it is next to impossible to get plastic bottles to get what safe water there is to the people.... :roll:

When things like that happen here..... And it does happen here :roll: .....Unsafe Drinking Water :shock: resulting in Boil Water Orders etc.. :roll: . People having to buy bottled water :o ....... Let alone NOT being able to buy bottled water :shock: ...... People get angry :evil: ..... Pretty soon there may be a change of water treatment operators :idea: or change of the government officials that are allegedly supervising the operators :idea: :idea: .... Or BOTH :idea: :idea: :idea: .... Sometimes the operators &/or the government officials go to jail..... :idea: :shock:

Hoping that happens in Venezuela soon..... :idea: :D

Have friends from Venezuela......
*Though I am tempted to say I almost wouldn't put it past someone as Mad & Duro ;) as Maduro ;) perhaps so Maduro that he is Podrido :twisted:
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Don't fly for me Venezuela

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American Airlines Reducing Flights To Venezuela By 80 Percent Due To Currency Controls
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In this Jan. 26, 2007 file photo, an American Airlines plane sits on the tarmac at Simon Bolivar International Airport in Maiquetia, Venezuela. American Airlines said Tuesday, June 17, 2014 that it will cut nearly 80 percent of its flights to Venezuela in a dispute over revenue being held by the South American country. (AP)

FORT WORTH (AP) – American Airlines said Tuesday that it will cut nearly 80 percent of its flights to Venezuela in a dispute over revenue being held by the South American country.

American said that beginning July 2 it will operate 10 flights per week instead of the current 48. And it will only fly to Venezuela from Miami, scrapping flights from New York, Dallas and San Juan, Puerto Rico.

The airline says Venezuela is holding on to at least $750 million in revenue that American wants to bring back to the U.S.

Other airlines are locked in similar disputes. The International Air Transport Association, a trade group for major world airlines, said this month that Venezuela is holding $4 billion in airline money because of problems with the country's currency-control system.

Air Canada and Italy's Alitalia have suspended all flights to Caracas and Panama's Copa has reduced service. Several U.S. airlines have also restricted sales there because of the socialist government's refusal to turn over money from sales inside Venezuela.

Last month, the government announced a deal that would let six Latin American airlines including Colombia's Avianca and AeroMexico to repatriate revenue from sales in 2012 and 2013.

Other industries such as drug companies and carmakers have also run into difficulty getting dollars from the government's tightly managed currency system because of a shortage of U.S. dollars.

American has a broad network of flights to Latin America and has flown to Venezuela for nearly 27 years. A spokesman for Fort Worth-based American Airlines Group Inc., Casey Norton, said that American values "our business and longstanding relationships with the government." But, he said, the airline is cutting flights because it is owed $750 million in ticket revenue through March and hasn't been able to resolve the dispute.

"We continue to work with the government of Venezuela on this matter," Norton said.

American currently flies four times per day between Caracas and Miami, once a day between Caracas and San Juan, once a day between Maracaibo and Miami, five times per week between Caracas and New York's Kennedy Airport, and once a week between Caracas and Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport.

Beginning July 2, American said, it will fly daily between Caracas and Miami with an extra flight on Saturdays, and two flights per week between Maracaibo and Miami.
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Bloomberg | Venezuela Bonds Fall as Harvard Team Says Default Likely

As from the self inflicted failures of the previous and current government, the drop in the price of oil is not helping.
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Typhoon wrote:Bloomberg | Venezuela Bonds Fall as Harvard Team Says Default Likely

As from the self inflicted failures of the previous and current government, the drop in the price of oil is not helping.

Right and wrong .. not self but west inflicted .. and .. agree, oil price down not helpful

But, don't bet on low Oil price, not gonno last

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Typhoon wrote:Bloomberg | Venezuela Bonds Fall as Harvard Team Says Default Likely

As from the self inflicted failures of the previous and current government, the drop in the price of oil is not helping.

Right and wrong .. not self but west inflicted .. and .. agree, oil price down not helpful

But, don't bet on low Oil price, not gonno last

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Yeah its all America's fault that the Venezuelan government can't supply toilet paper to the Venezuelan people !!! :lol:
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FP | For Venezuelans, the Fall in Oil Prices is Personal
Thanks to a combination of lower oil prices and an economic policy based on rigid price and currency controls, the scarcity of basic staples such as toilet paper, beef, chicken, and cooking oil has never been worse. People spend hours in line hoping to purchase essential items, but they’re rarely successful.

Even though final 2014 figures on the Venezuelan economy have yet to be made public, we do know a few things about the shape it’s in. Inflation closed at around 70 percent for the year. The country is in recession: GDP is expected to have dropped by around 4 percent once the numbers are in. The price of oil, which accounts for about 96 percent of the country’s exports, has dropped by about 60 percent since June.
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