http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Enki wrote:.
http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
.
Tinker
this is old stuff
called "direct democracy"
I debated that
practiced in Switzerland .. very well known
Swiss have : INITIATIVE & REFERENDUM
meaning
if any Swiss
gathers (I think) 100,000 valid signature for any idea that should be enacted as law
if so
Swiss government is obliged to put that issue to referendum and act upon
in fact
Swiss parliament does not introduce laws , people do
called "direct democracy"
but
this will not work in America
it would be death of American Capitalism system
In America, not the people, but the money decides
People think they somebody, but they nobody
people brainwashed and manipulated by elite, money and the smart ass
so
don't bother
not gonno fly
.
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Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Interesting. Old school democracy, especially the two-party terror in the US needs a serious update. I'd like to see in direct democracy a possibility for voting on issues.Enki wrote:http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
Deep down I'm very superficial
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
You are going on ignore now. All you ever post is, "I am so much cooler than you because I am Persian."Jnalum Persicum wrote:Enki wrote:.
http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
.
Tinker
this is old stuff
called "direct democracy"
I debated that
practiced in Switzerland .. very well known
Swiss have : INITIATIVE & REFERENDUM
meaning
if any Swiss
gathers (I think) 100,000 valid signature for any idea that should be enacted as law
if so
Swiss government is obliged to put that issue to referendum and act upon
in fact
Swiss paramagnetic does not introduce laws , people do
called "direct democracy"
but
this will not work in America
it would be death of American Capitalism system
In America, not the people, but the money decides
People think they somebody, but they nobody
people brainwashed and manipulated by elite, money and the smart ass
so
don't bother
not gonno fly
.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Enki wrote:You are going on ignore now. All you ever post is, "I am so much cooler than you because I am Persian."Jnalum Persicum wrote:Enki wrote:.
http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
.
Tinker
this is old stuff
called "direct democracy"
I debated that
practiced in Switzerland .. very well known
Swiss have : INITIATIVE & REFERENDUM
meaning
if any Swiss
gathers (I think) 100,000 valid signature for any idea that should be enacted as law
if so
Swiss government is obliged to put that issue to referendum and act upon
in fact
Swiss paramagnetic does not introduce laws , people do
called "direct democracy"
but
this will not work in America
it would be death of American Capitalism system
In America, not the people, but the money decides
People think they somebody, but they nobody
people brainwashed and manipulated by elite, money and the smart ass
so
don't bother
not gonno fly
.
.
come on, Tinker,
Did not touch on "Persian"
why the outburst ?
Humanität counts not coolness
Just reminded what Finland tinkering with is already in full operation in Switzerland and
works perfectly ..is the best of the best in terms of real democracy .. only in Switzerland people really decide politics and everything else, nowhere else
but
that would not be possible in America (my understanding you working on it)
In America, quite intentionally, money decides everything and not YOU
.
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
I don't like that our officials rely on a paucity of data and go with largely private sector polling organizations to find out how people feel about certain issues. If there were a way to directly poll your constituents, that would be the ideal. If I could go down to my Congressman's office take an online poll and let them know about how I feel on every single issue by flipping switches and assigning priorities, that would be a huge step up from current petitioning structures, though not in lieu of petitioning structures.Parodite wrote:Interesting. Old school democracy, especially the two-party terror in the US needs a serious update. I'd like to see in direct democracy a possibility for voting on issues.Enki wrote:http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
What's that refrain again? Oh yes, something about what works in the small, homogenous, easily controlled enivrons are almost impossible to scale up to larger settings in any satisfactory way?
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
This isn't actually direct democracy, not in any way shape or form really. This is just a mandate that your representatives vote on proposals put forth by the populace.Ammianus wrote:What's that refrain again? Oh yes, something about what works in the small, homogenous, easily controlled enivrons are almost impossible to scale up to larger settings in any satisfactory way?
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
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Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Can we get crowdsourced un-lawmaking? We have too few laws?
Censorship isn't necessary