The new global axis of power

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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:39 am

Typhoon wrote:
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

Now, America more socialist than Russia or even Iran (Hi, Mr. Perfect)
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When you're right you're right Azari.

American socialism, so-called, is infinitely preferable to Russian autocratic kleptocratic capitalism.

To some, the grass is always greener over some other neighbour's septic system.

Get used to the Russian kind.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:40 am

Ibrahim wrote:
Demon of Undoing wrote:For the record, the porky Russian lady hasn't been up for four days, has not been immersed in 55 degree seawater for 6 hours at a time, done head first pushups in the breakers, rolled in the sand and had 400 lb inflatable rubber boats fall on her.

Just sayin'.


The boys in green are cashing a government paycheque, whereas the Russian lady is probably self-employed. Another example of statism and socialism weakening and infantilizing people.

If the US military was "socialist" you guys would really love it.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby YMix » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:12 am

Swiss war game envisages invasion by bankrupt French

Hordes of bankrupt French invade Switzerland to get their hands on their “stolen” money — such is the imaginary scenario cooked up by the Swiss military in simulations revealed over the weekend.


Switzerland is encroaching on France! :o
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Enki » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:12 pm

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Mr. Perfect wrote:Some people are really fighting the last wars. All new rules now.

If I had 100 Yen for every time I read this, then I'd be retired a long time ago.


I love the delicious irony that it was posted by someone who is still fighting the cold war.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:55 pm

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Mr. Perfect wrote:Some people are really fighting the last wars. All new rules now.

If I had 100 Yen for every time I read this, then I'd be retired a long time ago.

If the shoe fits.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:56 pm

Enki wrote:
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Some people are really fighting the last wars. All new rules now.

If I had 100 Yen for every time I read this, then I'd be retired a long time ago.


I love the delicious irony that it was posted by someone who is still fighting the cold war.

How do you figure, do you see me fighting Putin. I'm a non-biased sideline observer.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:05 pm

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Swiss war game envisages invasion by bankrupt French

Hordes of bankrupt French invade Switzerland to get their hands on their “stolen” money — such is the imaginary scenario cooked up by the Swiss military in simulations revealed over the weekend.


Switzerland is encroaching on France! :o

France has always been an easy target. Who wouldn't encroach on France, they don't fight back.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby YMix » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:38 am

Mr. Perfect wrote:France has always been an easy target. Who wouldn't encroach on France, they don't fight back.


Ignorance of history is no excuse. You are hereby sentenced to read the history of France, Mr. Perfect.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby noddy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:44 am

im sure you can find whatever you like across the history of france.

off the top of my head, louie 1 and napolean didnt back down much but then you also have the creation of normandy.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Ibrahim » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:50 am

noddy wrote:im sure you can find whatever you like across the history of france.

off the top of my head, louie 1 and napolean didnt back down much but then you also have the creation of normandy.


France wins and loses plenty of wars, but France stays more or less the same size in the long run. After I read up on the battle of Verdun I was pretty much over the whole "French are cowards" gag that we all grow up with in the English-speaking world.

On the other hand France is nowhere near as great as a Frenchman will tell you it is. The French and Americans have this in common, they should be better friends.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:50 pm

YMix wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:France has always been an easy target. Who wouldn't encroach on France, they don't fight back.


Ignorance of history is no excuse. You are hereby sentenced to read the history of France, Mr. Perfect.

I don't think soldiers from over 100 years ago are going to show up and fight ymix. It will look more like these guys.

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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:51 pm

Ibrahim wrote:France wins and loses plenty of wars, but France stays more or less the same size in the long run.

Not for long.

After I read up on the battle of Verdun I was pretty much over the whole "French are cowards" gag that we all grow up with in the English-speaking world.

On the other hand France is nowhere near as great as a Frenchman will tell you it is. The French and Americans have this in common, they should be better friends.

But then Canadians won't even broach that topic in reference to themselves, so...
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby YMix » Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:18 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:I don't think soldiers from over 100 years ago are going to show up and fight ymix. It will look more like these guys.


Ah, so you back your silly assertion that France never fights back with a reference to present day gay marriage. :|
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Ibrahim » Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:29 pm

YMix wrote:Ah, so you back your silly assertion that France never fights back with a reference to present day gay marriage. :|


Homosexuality = cowardice, remember? We're talking about American conservative stereotypes here.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:16 pm

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Mr. Perfect wrote:I don't think soldiers from over 100 years ago are going to show up and fight ymix. It will look more like these guys.


Ah, so you back your silly assertion that France never fights back with a reference to present day gay marriage. :|

Nah, the assertion is France never fights back in any of our lifetimes, we have to deal with reality and not abstractions, like France from centuries in the past. All those people are dead ymix.

The GM thing was for fun. I chuckled with the picture and thought everyone would enjoy the redneck. Rednecks get a lot of mileage around here, you guys really seem to hate them, so I thought you'd enjoy it. If you want me to look up other pictures of very wimpy French men without any homosexual overtones I can certainly do that, it won't be a challenge. It was just one of the first one that popped. Either way as far as I'm concerned.

Vive La France! I think ymix you have done more to defend France in this thread than they have done to defend themselves in nearly a century. :) I wonder if they will be grateful to you.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby YMix » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:39 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:Nah, the assertion is France never fights back in any of our lifetimes, we have to deal with reality and not abstractions, like France from centuries in the past. All those people are dead ymix.


When you say never, it kinda includes those people. But I guess it's just your manner of speaking. Just as you like to say that the USA has done most for the cause of freedom ever, but it's not really ever.

Also:

we have to deal with reality and not abstractions


Realpolitic doesn't need to rely on dictionary definitions, rather perceptions, insinuation and guesses


Apparently, you're dealing with whatever suits you. No consistency required. That's good to know.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:41 pm

Appeal to aspergers.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby YMix » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:48 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:I'll say anything to avoid losing a debate.


Fixed.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:35 pm

And yet the wimpiness of living Frenchmen remains uncontested. No one here even contested it, put a scratch on it. Not even ibs will take it up. If that was my position and the position remains untouched and that equals a loss then, I concede defeat to you personally ymix.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Ibrahim » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:49 pm

YMix wrote:When you say never, it kinda includes those people.


It isn't even necessary to make this argument historically. The French military are active peacekeepers in Africa, aside from the most recent defense of souther Mali against Saharan extremist groups and the Libyan intervention they made several interventions in the Congo (most recently 2006 IIRC). Short and mostly effective.

Plus if living memory they have to cases of playing the bad guys, both in Vietnam and in Algeria, where they fought tenaciously (indeed, criminally) even though they were on the losing side. Again just like the Americans. These countries should be friends, I'm telling you.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:52 pm

That ibs, reading my posts even when he says he doesn't.

If a Frenchmen fights in the woods and no one hears it did the Frenchmen actually fight in the woods.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby YMix » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:07 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:And yet the wimpiness of living Frenchmen remains uncontested.


It sure does. :lol:

It's nice to see you squirming, moving from Russian encroachment to French military history rather than acknowledging that you can't defend your OP and dealing in both vague impressions and facts as it suits you.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:19 pm

The OP defends itself and an Obama era military publication lauding the French isn't surprising but expected as yet another French involved defeat plays out before our eyes.

If you want to say that Russia is on the decline while America is ascendant and the world fears the French then truly you have a dizzying intellect and I will run up the white flag ymix. Who can argue with that. Well actually ibs will argue with that, he's been saying Obama got b!tcshlapped, but I could never argue with that. You win I lose.

Edit: Also Berzer will argue with you, he thinks Obama got b!tslapped as well, but personally I see now that I can't argue those points to you, clearly Putin embarrassed himself on the world stage and the French are feared in every corner of the earth.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby YMix » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:50 pm

The OP defends itself


No, it doesn't.

an Obama era military publication lauding the French isn't surprising but expected


I'm sure he ordered that article personally. :lol:

If you want to say that Russia is on the decline while America is ascendant and the world fears the French then truly you have a dizzying intellect and I will run up the white flag ymix.


Yawn. Call me when you have something interesting to say.
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Re: The new global axis of power

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:05 am

You seem tremendously interested in everything I say ymix, you more than anyone else, although admittedly there is heavy competition. And now I see the power of what you have to say. Putin embarrassed himself on the world stage and France is feared the world over. I was wrong and I'm man enough to admit it.
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