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War with Russia and China

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Deep in economic crisis, the US and Europe are looking to regenerate capitalism through widespread war with the developing countries before being ready for war with Russia and China


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Syria : another US stepping stone

By Ardeshir Ommani


The Syrian armed opposition is not independent from the United States and reactionary Arab regimes in its objective to capture power, not through the ballot box by imposing a civil war. The degree of its dependency and servitude manifests itself when US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton unambiguously called on "friends of democratic Syria" to unite and rally against President Bashar Assad. This proclamation was ushered the day after the US sponsored authorization for military intervention into Syria was rejected by China and Russia, who were forced to veto the US plan for invasion of Syria.

In the continuation of her command, Clinton reiterated that the "international community", just like George W Bush's "coalition of the willing" had a duty to promote a political transition that would see President Bashar al-Assad step down.

Clinton gave her directive to the whole world while visiting Bulgaria, one of the 10 poorest countries of Europe, with Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of less than US$53 billion in 2010, the Per Capita Income of $13,449 and the General government gross debt as high as 19.7% of the country's GDP. The purpose of interposing Bulgaria's poor economic conditions is not to denigrate the country or its people, but to show that US Imperialism with its plans of domination, destruction and plunder uses even the most poverty-stricken nations to turn against other struggling countries such as Syria, Iran and not too long ago Libya to accomplish its criminal purpose. Following in the footsteps of Cheney, Rumsfeld and Company just before the invasion of Iraq, Clinton lashed out at Russia and China as a stepping stone to declare "faced with a neutered Security Council we have to redouble our efforts outside of the United Nations with our allies and partners…."

I think we have seen this movie before. The first character that appears on the stage is a spokesman for the Arab League (AL). It makes no difference whether he is elected or appointed by the Saudi Arabian King and Prime Minister and more importantly he has received Hillary Clinton's or General David H. Petraeus, the Director of the CIA's blessings. Following his assignment, the Arab League emissary who has been ushered to the UN General Assembly room by Susan Rice, US Ambassador to the United Nations, pleads for establishing a "no fly zone" to save the lives of the innocent Syrians for God's sake!

If there is no contest to the resolution well-prepared by the US government, then Washington gets to work and with the help of the coalition of the willing, permission in hand, begins the bombarding of Syrian logistics, every kind of arms depot, the electrical grids, the factories, food depots, water reservoirs, city sewer systems and schools and hospitals. Does this scenario have precedence? Yes, about six months after extracting the license to impose a "no fly zone" over Libya, the Western powers with carpet bombings flattened that country, liberated the country's light sweet crude oil and succeeded to install one of the senior ENI SpA executives (Italy's major oil company) as Libya's oil minister and in two months the Western oil companies were sucking out 1.3 million barrels a day.

This time the job of preparing the draft resolution was given to the Moroccan representative to the UN who was on a fast track. The plan demanded the Syrian government withdraw all of its armed forces from all populated areas back to its barracks. However, it ignored Russia's demand that the Syrian opposition distance itself from extremist groups that commit violence and crimes against civilians. The second Russian demand that was totally ignored was that 'armed groups must stop attacks against state institutions and the public while the Syrian armed forces are leaving the cities.' The refusal to include these provisions into the draft resolution meant only one thing: dissolution of the Syrian state and a total "regime change".

Instead of being apologetic, the co-authors of the draft began slamming the integrity of the Russian government. For instance, Morocco's representative charged the Russian government with ignoring the "Arab's common stances". France's delegate went as far as calling Russia and China accomplices in crimes committed by the Syrian regime. For Russia and China who had seen the terrible consequences in Libya, there was only one alternative and that was vetoing the resolution.

This time around, in the case of Syria, China and Russia had learned their bitter lesson and resisted being fooled for a second time. But the US and its allies had stacked the cards in favor of passing the resolution and doing unto Syria what they did to Libya. More telling, the US did not accept any alteration in the resolution, which forced China and Russia to veto the motion and defeat it.

As far back as in November 2011, NATO in collaboration with the pro-imperialist and reactionary Arab Sheiks of Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Turkey were planning to invade Syria, set up a colonial regime and overthrow a social democratic secular government. According to an article on Al Bawaba, an Arabic/English internet site, Senior European sources revealed that Arab jet fighters and possibly Turkish warplanes, backed by American logistical support would impose a no-fly zone in Syria's sky after the Arab League issues a decision calling for armed intervention. The sources told Kuwait's al Rai daily that the Syrian trucks, tanks and military vehicles would not be excluded from the targets of the invading jets.

The fates of Libya and Syria could not be more similar. While deep in economic crisis, the US and Europe are looking to regenerate capitalism through widespread war with the developing countries before being ready for war with Russia and China.

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Re: War with Russia and China

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No

There can be no winners in such a war.
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Re: War with Russia and China

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Enki wrote:.

No

There can be no winners in such a war.

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West thinks world's natural resources, everything, is western birth-right

so

either west must dramatically cut western living standard

or

there will be a war between west and the rest

this just a continuation of WW 1 and later WW 2

@ those wars, the beasts, fighting each other for natural resource dominance

now west @ receiving end

ZERO doubt there will be war

only question is WHEN

BTW : India will be on the other side

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Re: War with Russia and China

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I think you're just kind of getting into masturbatory conspiratorialism here. A war between the US on one side and Russia and China on the other would lay waste and ravage all the countries involved. It would result in more deaths on all sides than any war in history. There would be no winning such a war. That war would reach United States soil, New York would be destroyed, DC would be destroyed. There just isn't any way to make such an endeavor profitable even by the most creative of accounting.

You're talking about a war of all of Asia versus all of Europe and North America.

I think only Brazil would win that war.
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Re: War with Russia and China

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Seriously. Russia: Nigeria with nukes. China: Russia with a functional economy. Nobody likes either of them and neither is foolish enough to think they can fight a sustained war with the US. As Enki said, there would only be losers in such a war.
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Nuclear Option: Nuclear Winter or Ad Astra

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Zack Morris wrote:Seriously. Russia: Nigeria with nukes. China: Russia with a functional economy. Nobody likes either of them and neither is foolish enough to think they can fight a sustained war with the US. As Enki said, there would only be losers in such a war.
Thank you Very Much for your posts Enki & Zack Morris.

Quite correct likely .........

If we/Humanity are lucky: Argentina,Brazil,Chile/South America, Oz Australia & New Zealand, perhaps Countries of Southern Africa.......

Nuclear Winter for the Northern Hemisphere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_wi ... nsequences

Woe to they who long for the Day of the Lord..........The Day of the Lord is Darkness, Not Light........... - Amos from Tekoa....

If extremely lucky with a "Wet Firecracker" war, we/US might get a "Warday" scenario...........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warday


Depending how unlucky: Something from barbarism to "On the Beach"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%28novel%29

Lot depends on how much & what type of fallout...............

Watch out for "cobalt bombs" if Israel gets involved............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb

What a shame..............

Should be using those nukes to get US/us the World off this insane asylum planet..........

Orion MUST Rise............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Or ... pulsion%29


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clans_of_t ... #The_Clans
For the love of G_d, consider you & I may be mistaken.
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