"Flame" and other computer viruses

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Enki
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AzariLoveIran wrote:
Enki wrote:
AzariLoveIran wrote:.


Cyberattack clouds US-Iran nuclear talks


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However, Iranian anger over the attack has been tempered by the fact that Stuxnet largely failed in its efforts and the Iranian nuclear programme has quickly made up lost ground.

Although the new revelations come at a delicate time for the nuclear talks with Iran, which the Obama administration is keen to continue and would not want to see collapse in the middle of an election campaign, they could offer some domestic political upside. The fact that Mr Obama stepped up the Bush-era cyberwar programme will help counter Republican attacks that his administration has been too soft on Iran.

However, they complicate US efforts to criticise the cyber activities of other governments. In an unusually blunt report issued last year by US intelligence agencies, the Obama administration said that massive cyberespionage operations by China and Russia posed a “significant and growing threat” to US national security, yet other countries often view US complaints as hypocritical given its own cyber activities.

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Heh, Obama's Presidency is shaking out like Jimmy Carter's in so many ways.

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Obama wasted a very special window, opportunity, to change the downhill pattern in American foreign policy

black, had Islamic credential (for Muslims, father Muslim means son Muslim, for life), was not from Anglo wasp club, social worker and and and .. he had all the goodwill

he completely wasted that opportunity

now, ME, considers him worst than W.Bush

ME people not from African jungle that you can fool them by nice music or pleasantry

IMO, now, politically, America in worst shape than when W. left

Putin in driver seat, Iran leaving 20% for 90%, a civil war in Syria will engulf Israel, Afghanistan as good as lost .. Pakistan playing crazy (no transit for NATO) .. China clearly on collision course .. not only American, but European and world economy a cliffhanger

Obama had the goodwill of Muslims in ME .. instead .. he tried to fool Iran otherwise, and escalating killing by drone, not thinking those guys dime a dozen in that space, you will run out of missiles B4 they run out those chaps

yes, a wasted opportunity
Agreed.
Would have been better if McCain had won .. he would, head-on, jump into BingBang, and, by now things were done, one way or other

This is just silly.
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AzariLoveIran wrote:.


US has "most to lose"


United States also explicitly stated for the first time that it reserved the right to retaliate with military force against a cyber-attack.


this will be a much bigger mistake than Hiroshima & Nagasaki

America dropped 2 nuclear bombs on civilians .. and .. is engaged since 65 yrs to contain the damage of that stupidity .. result is .. more and more nations will have nuclear bomb and only G_D knows the outcome

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now

America introduced malware into sabotaging other nation

well

malware cheap and getting cheaper

there will be catastrophic events in western countries due to malware

and ? ? ?

bomb whom ? ?

that was really stupid

Iran will get it's nuclear bomb, sooner or later .. what makes a difference 1 or 2 yrs later


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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.
more and more nations will have nuclear bomb and only G_D knows the outcome
Likely quite true...........

America introduced malware into sabotaging other nation
Not sure when it begun but AIUI other world class Cyber Warriors include China and Russia: just ask the Estonians.....
Iran will get it's nuclear bomb, sooner or later .. what makes a difference 1 or 2 yrs later
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If you don't have one already with a CCCP stamp on it............ :twisted:

But a year or two could be a big difference......... Who knows what will happen in the meantime......

Mayan Calandar.. Space Rocks... Israel converts to Shia Islam: do they still have to leave :wink: .. Iran converts to Judiasm... the Culture contacts us...

Remember the story of the condemned Vizer who promised to make a dog talk if he would be reprieved for a year even at the cost of a nastier execution if he didn't..........
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Zack Morris wrote:.

Drones accept commands but I don't know to what degree the system software is re-programmable in flight. It may be but I doubt it's ever done because it would require a reboot of the computers and thus would have to be done on the ground. I'm pretty sure that the Mars rovers shut down and stop communicating for a few tense minutes when their software is updated.

Just because this capability exists does not mean it is easy to exploit. The Iranians would need to have access to the drone source code (which likely consists of an operating system and all kinds of things sitting on top of it, spread across multiple computers). People who aren't engineers or software developers don't realize that code isn't some magical living entity that can run on any system and analyze its own environment. Code written for one type of computer will not work on another, even if they share the same CPU and therefore the same machine language. It just doesn't work the way it does in movies.

I recall reading that Iranians may have used a much simpler (but still brilliant) tactic: they interfered with the GPS signal or blasted the drone with a fake signal that confused it into thinking it was near to base. Presumably they also jammed communications. The drone then went into some sort of automatic landing or controlled descent procedure.

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Report : Hackers could access US weapons systems through vulnerable chip


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A secret nanoscale "backdoor" etched into the silicon of a supposedly secure programmable chip could give cyberattackers access to classified US weapons systems, including guidance, flight control, networking, and communications systems, according to a new report by cybersecurity researchers in Britain.

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am sure, all chips, have a backdoor, am sure of that


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AzariLoveIran

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Wp - United States and Israel jointly developed a sophisticated computer virus nicknamed Flame that collected intelligence in preparation for cyber-sabotage aimed at slowing Iran’s ability to develop a nuclear weapon, according to Western officials with knowledge of the effort.


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“This is about preparing the battlefield for another type of covert action,” said one former high-ranking U.S. intelligence official, who added that Flame and Stuxnet were elements of a broader assault that continues today. “Cyber-collection against the Iranian program is way further down the road than this.”

Flame came to light last month after Iran detected a series of cyberattacks on its oil industry. The disruption was directed by Israel in a unilateral operation that apparently caught its American partners off guard, according to several U.S. and Western officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

There has been speculation that Washington had a role in developing Flame, but the collaboration on the virus between the United States and Israel has not been previously confirmed. Commercial security researchers reported last week that Flame contained some of the same code as Stuxnet. Experts described the overlap as DNA-like evidence that the two sets of malware were parallel projects run by the same entity.

Spokesmen for the CIA, the NSA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, as well as the Israeli Embassy in Washington, declined to comment.

The virus is among the most sophisticated and subversive pieces of malware to be exposed to date. Experts said the program was designed to replicate across even highly secure networks, then control everyday computer functions to send secrets back to its creators. The code could activate computer microphones and cameras, log keyboard strokes, take screen shots, extract geo­location data from images, and send and receive commands and data through Bluetooth wireless technology.

Flame was designed to do all this while masquerading as a routine Microsoft software update; it evaded detection for several years by using a sophisticated program to crack an encryption algorithm.

“This is not something that most security researchers have the skills or resources to do,” said Tom Parker, chief technology officer for FusionX, a security firm that specializes in simulating state-sponsored cyberattacks. He said he does not know who was behind the virus. “You’d expect that of only the most advanced cryptomathematicians, such as those working at NSA.”

more @ link

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AzariLoveIran

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look, guys

told you so

America introducing new evil stuff and lowering the bar

in fact, Cyber war is G_D send omen form the have-not crowed


In a rare public speech, the head of Britain's domestic spy service said Monday that the West now faces an "astonishing" cyber espionage threat on an "industrial scale" from specific nation states.

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"The extent of what is going on is astonishing," said Jonathan Evans, director general of MI5, "with industrial-scale processes involving many thousands of people lying behind both state-sponsored cyber espionage and organized cyber crime."

Though Evans did not name any countries, ABC News has separately learned from sources that the U.K., the U.S. and several European allies have a robust discussion underway on how to counter cyber espionage by perhaps the most significant state operator -- China.

Evans' speech on potential security threats to the West, delivered to English financial executives, came just one month before the 2012 Summer Olympics begin in London.

"The Games present an attractive target for our enemies and they will be at the centre of the world's attention in a month or so," said Evans. "No doubt some terrorist networks have thought about whether they could pull off an attack."

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Jnalum Persicum

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. . at 11:08, a person with privileged access to the Saudi state-owned oil company’s computers, unleashed a computer virus to initiate what is regarded as among the most destructive acts of computer sabotage on a company to date. The virus erased data on three-quarters of Aramco’s corporate PCs — documents, spreadsheets, e-mails, files — replacing all of it with an image of a burning American flag.


People who live in Christal houses should not throw rocks

told you

this cyber sh*t G_D send gift for the small guy

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The attack, intelligence officials say, was a wake-up call. “It proved you don’t have to be sophisticated to do a lot of damage,” said Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism official at the National Security Council. “There are lots of targets in the U.S. where they could do the same thing. The attacks were intended to say : ‘If you mess with us, you can expect retaliation.’ ”

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Was really silly


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Jnalum Persicum

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Stuxnet goes out of control : Chevron infected by anti-Iranian virus


boomeranging

this kind of stuff most effective against highly developed countries

well

told you, really stupid


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noddy
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Re: "Flame" and other computer viruses

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beep, wrong answer azari.

our various governments and established media providers are itching and a twitching for reasons to tame the internet - expect the word "legitimate" to be used quite heavily by them in regards both connections to the web and publishing on the web into the future.

attacks by "rogue governments" would be manna from heaven in terms of forcing that upon the public agenda.
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Jnalum Persicum

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noddy wrote:.

beep, wrong answer azari.

our various governments and established media providers are itching and a twitching for reasons to tame the internet - expect the word "legitimate" to be used quite heavily by them in regards both connections to the web and publishing on the web into the future.

attacks by "rogue governments" would be manna from heaven in terms of forcing that upon the public agenda.

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sooner or later, all nations will have their own "National Internet" .. like Iran already implemented

that, for many reason

in that sense

yes,

you are right


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