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Re: Rise of the Robots

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Re: Rise of the Robots

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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:38 am

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IT would be interesting to see a direct fight with wooden swords to see whether the robot or the sword master would win.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby noddy » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:18 am

its only doing exact replicas of trained movements on demand, how could it possibly win, its not like it can analyse the situation and create the appropriate move.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:26 am

noddy wrote:its only doing exact replicas of trained movements on demand, how could it possibly win, its not like it can analyse the situation and create the appropriate move.


I am just saying that would be a good test of how close we are to the technological singularity.

Lately I have been getting interactive robot calls that are getting better at answering questions.

Generally I ask "Are you a robot?"

Lately the answer have been a 2 to 3 second pause then a creepy laugh and "No I am not a robot" or some variation. I should record some of them and post them here. I think my next question will be "Who is the POTUS?" SO far when I have asked and the robot calling does not have an answer they hang up. On the occasions I have cussed at them they get insulted and hang up. So far none has taken me up on an offer of a date.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Simple Minded » Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:09 pm

Doc wrote:
noddy wrote:its only doing exact replicas of trained movements on demand, how could it possibly win, its not like it can analyse the situation and create the appropriate move.


I am just saying that would be a good test of how close we are to the technological singularity.

Lately I have been getting interactive robot calls that are getting better at answering questions.

Generally I ask "Are you a robot?"

Lately the answer have been a 2 to 3 second pause then a creepy laugh and "No I am not a robot" or some variation. I should record some of them and post them here. I think my next question will be "Who is the POTUS?" SO far when I have asked and the robot calling does not have an answer they hang up. On the occasions I have cussed at them they get insulted and hang up. So far none has taken me up on an offer of a date.


I find it hard to believe that robot phone sex is not already a reality somewhere..... and we have the audacity to call ourselves "civilized." :(

That should be the first opportunity for robots to serve "humanity." :)
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:05 pm

Simple Minded wrote:
Doc wrote:
noddy wrote:its only doing exact replicas of trained movements on demand, how could it possibly win, its not like it can analyse the situation and create the appropriate move.


I am just saying that would be a good test of how close we are to the technological singularity.

Lately I have been getting interactive robot calls that are getting better at answering questions.

Generally I ask "Are you a robot?"

Lately the answer have been a 2 to 3 second pause then a creepy laugh and "No I am not a robot" or some variation. I should record some of them and post them here. I think my next question will be "Who is the POTUS?" SO far when I have asked and the robot calling does not have an answer they hang up. On the occasions I have cussed at them they get insulted and hang up. So far none has taken me up on an offer of a date.


I find it hard to believe that robot phone sex is not already a reality somewhere..... and we have the audacity to call ourselves "civilized." :(

That should be the first opportunity for robots to serve "humanity." :)


I have been reading a book about what is wrong with science these days. Kind of a tyranny of statistics theme. Subjective vs the Objective. Objective being the mass processing of the data into a one size fits all conclusions.

In medicine for example the compliant is that everyone is different. You might have a objective probability that 95% of patients that have a given bacterial infection respond well to drug "X" which has to be taken every 6 hours to be most effective. Then you have a patient that is very forgetful to take his medicine. SO subjectively the doctor gives him drug "y" which while almost as effective is slightly less effective. But it only has to be taken once a day.

Would a machine or even a system that relies completely on Probably objective medicine be able account for the other 5% who would not respond well to the one size fits all type of medicine ?

If not, would that be a virtual type of genocide? Killing off the outliers inherently because they are outliers?

I have to wonder how many other situations where the technological singularity might end up with that kind of outcome.

Granted this can happen even without machines. Bureaucratic institutions tend to do this already to outliers.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:41 pm

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China’s Troubling Robot Revolution



In 2014, Chinese factories accounted for about a quarter of the global ranks of industrial robots — a 54 percent increase over 2013. According to the International Federation of Robotics, it will have more installed manufacturing robots than any other country by 2017.

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Chinese factory jobs may thus be poised to evaporate at an even faster pace than has been the case in the United States and other developed countries. That may make it significantly more difficult for China to address one of its paramount economic challenges: the need to rebalance its economy so that domestic consumption plays a far more significant role than is currently the case.

China’s economic growth has been driven not just by manufacturing exports, but also by fixed investment in things like housing, factories and infrastructure — in fact, in recent years investment has made up nearly half of its gross domestic product. Meanwhile, domestic consumer spending represents only about a third of the economic pie, or roughly half the level in the United States.

This is clearly unsustainable. After all, there eventually has to be a return on all those investments. Factories have to produce goods that are profitably sold. Homes have to be occupied, and rent has to be paid. Generating those returns will require Chinese households to step up and play a larger role: They will have to spend far more, not just on the goods produced in China’s factories, but increasingly in the service sector.

Making that happen will be an extraordinary challenge. Indeed, the Chinese leadership has been talking about it for years, but virtually no progress has been made. One problem is that even in the wake of recent wage increases, average Chinese households simply have too little income relative to the size of the economy.

Another problem is that the Chinese public has an extraordinary propensity to save. By some estimates, the average household socks away as much as 40 percent of its income. That may be partly driven by the need to provide for retirement and self-insure against risks like unemployment and illness, as China’s newly capitalistic economy has largely decimated the social safety net.

The bottom line is that any policy designed to rebalance economic growth will have to raise household incomes while dampening down the saving rate. That would be a daunting challenge under any circumstances, but accelerating technology is virtually certain to make it far more difficult.




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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:20 pm

Just got a robocall 4.0

I asked the question "Are you a robot?"

Pause then creepy laugh(somewhat less creepy then previous creepy robocall laughs) then "Yes I am a real human being"

Then I asked "what is 2 plus 2"

Answer "I'm sorry I did not understand what you said"

reply: "I asked you what is 2 plus 2?"

Answer: "I don't know. I will put you on our do not call list"
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Simple Minded » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:32 am

Doc wrote:Just got a robocall 4.0

I asked the question "Are you a robot?"

Pause then creepy laugh(somewhat less creepy then previous creepy robocall laughs) then "Yes I am a real human being"

Then I asked "what is 2 plus 2"

Answer "I'm sorry I did not understand what you said"

reply: "I asked you what is 2 plus 2?"

Answer: "I don't know. I will put you on our do not call list"


Brilliant! :)
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby YMix » Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:31 am

Hadrian the robot bricklayer can build a whole house in two days
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An Australian engineer has built a robot that can build houses in two hours, and could work every day to build houses for people.

Human housebuilders have to work for four to six weeks to put a house together, and have to take weekends and holidays. The robot can work much more quickly and doesn’t need to take breaks.

Hadrian could take the jobs of human bricklayers. But its creator, Mark Pivac, told PerthNow that it was a response to the lack of available workers — the average age of the industry is getting much higher, and the robot might be able to fill some of that gap.

“People have been laying bricks for about 6000 years and ever since the industrial revolution, they have tried to automate the bricklaying process,” Pivac told PerthNow, which first reported his creation. But despite the thousands of years of housebuilding, most bricklaying is still done by hand.

Hadrian works by laying 1000 bricks an hour, letting it put up 150 houses a year.

It takes a design of the house and then works out where all of the bricks need to go, before cutting and laying each of them. It has a 28-foot arm, which is used to set and mortar the brick, and means that it doesn’t need to move during the laying.

Pivac will now work to commercialise the robot, first in West Australia but eventually globally.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:43 pm

Simple Minded wrote:
Doc wrote:Just got a robocall 4.0

I asked the question "Are you a robot?"

Pause then creepy laugh(somewhat less creepy then previous creepy robocall laughs) then "Yes I am a real human being"

Then I asked "what is 2 plus 2"

Answer "I'm sorry I did not understand what you said"

reply: "I asked you what is 2 plus 2?"

Answer: "I don't know. I will put you on our do not call list"


Brilliant! :)


Many years ago I had a demo tape from Panasonic's Craig division for a cassette recorder.

The tape went something like this:

You press play and a woman with a really sexy voice says:

"oooooo you touched me!! When you touch me right there where you just did it turns me on"
"Let me introduce myself I am a Craig cassette recorder and I exist to listen to your every word."


If modern robocalls, and women were like that I bet they would get much fewer hang ups. :D
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:52 pm

Robot kills man at Volkswagen plant in Germany

BERLIN (AP) — Automaker Volkswagen says a robot has killed a contractor at one of its production plants in Germany.

A spokesman for VW says the man died Monday at the plant in Baunatal, about 100 kilometers (62 miles) north of Frankfurt.

Heiko Hillwig said Wednesday the 22-year-old was part of a team that was setting up the robot when it grabbed and crushed him against a metal plate.

Hillwig said initial conclusions indicate that human error was to blame, rather than a problem with the robot.

German news agency dpa reported that prosecutors were considering whether to bring charges, and if so, against whom.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d18c4801 ... r-lawsuits
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:49 pm

USA CHALLENGES JAPAN TO GIANT ROBOT DUEL!

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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Simple Minded » Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:00 am

Doc wrote:
Robot kills man at Volkswagen plant in Germany

BERLIN (AP) — Automaker Volkswagen says a robot has killed a contractor at one of its production plants in Germany.

A spokesman for VW says the man died Monday at the plant in Baunatal, about 100 kilometers (62 miles) north of Frankfurt.

Heiko Hillwig said Wednesday the 22-year-old was part of a team that was setting up the robot when it grabbed and crushed him against a metal plate.

Hillwig said initial conclusions indicate that human error was to blame, rather than a problem with the robot.

German news agency dpa reported that prosecutors were considering whether to bring charges, and if so, against whom.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d18c4801 ... r-lawsuits


Doc,

It might be starting already......... We need more info.

Was the guy that got killed Greek, Black, Jewish, or Gay?
Was the robot made in Germany, the Middle East, or America?
Did the guy who got killed owe the robot any money?
Were there any Confederate flags flying in the plant?
Should the robot be destroyed, rehabilitated, or just have it's memory reloaded?

Until we get more info, we'd best just chalk it up to AGW....
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby YMix » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:00 pm

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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:51 am

Simple Minded wrote:
Doc wrote:
Robot kills man at Volkswagen plant in Germany

BERLIN (AP) — Automaker Volkswagen says a robot has killed a contractor at one of its production plants in Germany.

A spokesman for VW says the man died Monday at the plant in Baunatal, about 100 kilometers (62 miles) north of Frankfurt.

Heiko Hillwig said Wednesday the 22-year-old was part of a team that was setting up the robot when it grabbed and crushed him against a metal plate.

Hillwig said initial conclusions indicate that human error was to blame, rather than a problem with the robot.

German news agency dpa reported that prosecutors were considering whether to bring charges, and if so, against whom.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d18c4801 ... r-lawsuits


Doc,

It might be starting already......... We need more info.

Was the guy that got killed Greek, Black, Jewish, or Gay?
Was the robot made in Germany, the Middle East, or America?
Did the guy who got killed owe the robot any money?
Were there any Confederate flags flying in the plant?
Should the robot be destroyed, rehabilitated, or just have it's memory reloaded?

Until we get more info, we'd best just chalk it up to AGW....


AGW and work place related violence.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby noddy » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:11 am

since when did getting munched by an automated machine turn into dramatic robot murder.

i once worked in a brick factory, getting munched by automated machines was a weekly event.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:54 pm

I once worked in an upholsery factory where a guy fell into the equipment.

Chewed him up good, but now he's fully recovered.
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:26 pm

Kuratas accepts fight challenge from Megabot Mark 2 !!!



Let the Melee combat begin!!
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:23 am

Self aware robots

Three robots are told that two have been given a pill that makes them dumb....



http://www.popsci.com/polite-robots-sho ... SOC&dom=tw

Polite Robots Show Glimmer of Self-Awareness


Robots are the new wise men

By Levi Sharpe Posted 7 hours ago

Nao Robot


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We’re a long way off from having robots with an artificial intelligence close to what is seen in movies such as Her or Ex Machina. But for the first time, three humanoid robots showed a glimmer of self-consciousness by solving a classic philosophical problem.


The robotic trio was composed of three old Nao models, but the experiment that was conducted on them was extremely novel — and so were the results.


The robots were programed to think that two of them had been given a “dumbing pill” that would make them unable to speak (actually just a button that silenced them). However, they didn't know exactly which two of them had been silenced. When the robots were asked to answer which two had been given the pill, all of them tried to respond: “I don’t know.” Since only one was actually able to utter the words, it heard its own voice and recognized it wasn't among the two who had been silenced. That robot then responded: “Sorry, I know now. I was able to prove that I was not given a dumbing pill.”

Not only are the Nao bots polite, the test requires them to accomplish very basic forms of self-awareness. Each robot must be able to understand the question, as well as to be able to recognize its own voice. They must also be able to infer that if they were able to speak, they weren't one of the robots who had received the “dumbing pill.”

The test is a variation of an induction puzzle called “The King's Wise Men.” In the puzzle’s scenario, a king decides who will be his new advisor by calling three of the wisest men to his court to participate in a contest, which he promises will be fair. He tells all three wise men that he's putting either a white or blue hat on their heads, but the color of each hat can only be seen by the men not wearing it. The King goes on to tell the men that at least one of them is wearing a blue hat. The first wise man to figure out the color of his own hat becomes the new king’s advisor. In fact, the solution is that they're all wearing blue hats.

Selmer Bringsjord, a professor at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in New York, ran the test on the robots. He works on building artificial intelligence systems on the basis of computational logic. His work will be presented at RO-MAN, a robotics and artificial consciousness conference in Japan. The current theme of the conference, which runs from August 31 to Sept. 4, is “Interaction With Socially Embedded Robots.”

According to Bringsjord’s faculty bio, he claims that "'armchair' reasoning time has enabled him to deduce that the human mind will forever be superior to such machines.”
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby YMix » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:39 am

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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Doc » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:20 pm

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That was Quick:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=32585072
Gun-Firing Drone Subject of Federal Investigation

Jul 21, 2015, 7:15 AM ET
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Re: Rise of the Robots

Postby Heracleum Persicum » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:46 am

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Tech leaders warn of killer robot arms race


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Some of the biggest names in science and technology have called for a global ban on “killer robots”, amid warnings that crossing that threshold would start a new global arms race.

The intervention by more than 1,000 experts in the field of artificial intelligence came in an open letter, which was also signed by Professor Stephen Hawking, the cosmologist, Elon Musk, Tesla’s chief executive, and Steve Wozniak, the co-founder of Apple.

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The truth

Postby Alexis » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:35 pm

Doc wrote:Just got a robocall 4.0

I asked the question "Are you a robot?"

Pause then creepy laugh(somewhat less creepy then previous creepy robocall laughs) then "Yes I am a real human being"

Then I asked "what is 2 plus 2"

Answer "I'm sorry I did not understand what you said"

reply: "I asked you what is 2 plus 2?"

Answer: "I don't know. I will put you on our do not call list"


Pfft. Primitive tech.

I've been contributing to this forum for years, and nobody ever suspected the truth.
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