Whom do progressives hate?

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Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Typhoon » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:58 pm

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“Love Humanity but Hate People.” is a stereotype that sums up my own anecdotal experience with regressive progressives.

"Saving the world" apparently gives one carte blanche to be a jerk when it comes to personal responsibility for one's actions
and in dealing with other people.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby noddy » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:01 am

from my perspective its a certain personality type that used to be the noxious christian has become the noxious progressive as the balance of power shifted in the universities.

I wish i could find the exact source but I do remember an excellent Spike Milligan joke about how he loved that you can kick the chair of anyone that doesnt stand for the Queen, not because he gives a hoot about the Queen, but that he loves having an excuse to kick people.

It covers that personality type just perfectly.

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the anti working class aspect of the new progressives is an interesting thing, probably coming from the rise of the inner city university graduates who feel far removed from the suburban and rural world.

its an interesting mine field to navigate and shows up all the time in the accusations of the anglo west being anti intellectual (which it is sometimes) when at its best its anti elitist and believes you quite often dont need to have gone to university to pick up subject matter if you are motivated and clever enough.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:31 am

noddy wrote:from my perspective its a certain personality type that used to be the noxious christian has become the noxious progressive as the balance of power shifted in the universities.

I wish i could find the exact source but I do remember an excellent Spike Milligan joke about how he loved that you can kick the chair of anyone that doesnt stand for the Queen, not because he gives a hoot about the Queen, but that he loves having an excuse to kick people.

It covers that personality type just perfectly.

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the anti working class aspect of the new progressives is an interesting thing, probably coming from the rise of the inner city university graduates who feel far removed from the suburban and rural world.

its an interesting mine field to navigate and shows up all the time in the accusations of the anglo west being anti intellectual (which it is sometimes) when at its best its anti elitist and believes you quite often dont need to have gone to university to pick up subject matter if you are motivated and clever enough.

The attitude you are looking for is self-righteousness. Internally defining what is moral or ethical.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Simple Minded » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:54 am

Nonc Hilaire wrote:
noddy wrote:from my perspective its a certain personality type that used to be the noxious christian has become the noxious progressive as the balance of power shifted in the universities.

I wish i could find the exact source but I do remember an excellent Spike Milligan joke about how he loved that you can kick the chair of anyone that doesnt stand for the Queen, not because he gives a hoot about the Queen, but that he loves having an excuse to kick people.

It covers that personality type just perfectly.

--

the anti working class aspect of the new progressives is an interesting thing, probably coming from the rise of the inner city university graduates who feel far removed from the suburban and rural world.

its an interesting mine field to navigate and shows up all the time in the accusations of the anglo west being anti intellectual (which it is sometimes) when at its best its anti elitist and believes you quite often dont need to have gone to university to pick up subject matter if you are motivated and clever enough.

The attitude you are looking for is self-righteousness. Internally defining what is moral or ethical.


Not bad. I was going to go with self-loathing.

"I have a 10x income, most don't. So society/life is unfair."
"So why don't you give away 90% of your income and make both society better and life more fair?"
"Maybe, you didn't you hear me? I said LIFE IS UNFAIR!"

In either case, the conundrum is the same, how does one who proclaims to be selfless, manage to both self-loath and preach self-righteousness? I'm leaning towards string theory.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:56 pm

Typhoon wrote: regressive progressives.

I like that. I would like to add aggressive regressive progressives.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Simple Minded » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:34 am

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Typhoon wrote: regressive progressives.

I like that. I would like to add aggressive regressive progressives.


I hate those people, but they are not as bad as the oppressive aggressive regressive progressives!
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:57 am

Simple Minded wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Typhoon wrote: regressive progressives.

I like that. I would like to add aggressive regressive progressives.


I hate those people, but they are not as bad as the oppressive aggressive regressive progressives!

Or the oppressive passive-aggressive regressive progressives.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Parodite » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:07 am

I claim a safe space for the most vulnerable: the obsessive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Simple Minded » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:59 am

Parodite wrote:I claim a safe space for the most vulnerable: the obsessive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives.


As long as it is climate controlled to shield them from AGW, they might be ok. Otherwise they may find it depressive.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Miss_Faucie_Fishtits » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:53 am

They're consumed with resentment and hate the fabric of reality and life itself. Self hatred first and all the rest is projection.....'>.......
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Simple Minded » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:52 am

Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:They're consumed with resentment and hate the fabric of reality and life itself. Self hatred first and all the rest is projection.....'>.......


Seems to be true for the one's I know on a first name basis.

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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:22 pm

I would like to point out that this used to be a progressive forum, now it's practically pro Trump. And I don't say that as a neener neener, but it's fascinating to watch, as SM might say.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:31 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:I would like to point out that this used to be a progressive forum, now it's practically pro Trump. And I don't say that as a neener neener, but it's fascinating to watch, as SM might say.


I remember when you were all about Republican party loyalty. Now you are a small "l" libertarian and anti-GOPe.

Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." No little minds at OTNOT.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Typhoon » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:13 am

Parodite wrote:I claim a safe space for the most vulnerable: the obsessive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives.


I think you had the
manic-depressive obsessive-compulsive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives
in mind.

Did you not?
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Typhoon » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:24 am

Mr. Perfect wrote:I would like to point out that this used to be a progressive forum, now it's practically pro Trump. And I don't say that as a neener neener, but it's fascinating to watch, as SM might say.


And I would like to point out that this is the Philosophy section, not the Current Events/USA/nth Trump thread as n → ∞
section. Please post your USA/Trump specific comments there.

This thread is about progressivism as a concept.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Simple Minded » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:04 pm

Typhoon wrote:
Parodite wrote:I claim a safe space for the most vulnerable: the obsessive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives.


I think you had the
manic-depressive obsessive-compulsive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives
in mind.

Did you not?



Parodite may also have been talking about the Alt-ives.

They are not very attractive, appreciative, cognitive, deductive, cooperative, inclusive, or competitive, but they are very defensive, combative, comparative, assertive, coercive, abusive, abrasive, argumentative, imaginative, collective, combustive, and contaminative.

And they hate not being the center of attention. The solution to their self-inflicted pain may be giving them more free contraceptives.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Parodite » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:20 pm

Typhoon wrote:
Parodite wrote:I claim a safe space for the most vulnerable: the obsessive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives.


I think you had the
manic-depressive obsessive-compulsive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives
in mind.

Did you not?


Yes. And... they should be decriminalized, treated like people with a medical condition such as drug addicts in an ideal situation. Covered by universal healthcare insurance. Maybe some crowdfunding to supply their safe spaces with soft cushions, tranquilizing white noise hifi sound systems.. just to make their recovery as smooth and painless as possible.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:19 pm

Nonc Hilaire wrote:I remember when you were all about Republican party loyalty. Now you are a small "l" libertarian and anti-GOPe.

Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." No little minds at OTNOT.

Fantastic topic. I would be interested in expounding, but not sure where to do it.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:16 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:I remember when you were all about Republican party loyalty. Now you are a small "l" libertarian and anti-GOPe.

Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." No little minds at OTNOT.

Fantastic topic. I would be interested in expounding, but not sure where to do it.

Anywhere except my bathroom. I get the Mr. Perfect/pro wrestling trope, but it is always more interesting when you dig into subjects which cannot be reduced to heroes and heels.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:38 am

Dr.Peterson is having a moment of fame right now. I've put most of it aside lately but I thought this was interesting:



Where he and a grad student of his make a distinction between the politically correct-minded egalitarian and the politically correct-minded authoritarian
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:40 am

You came to Berry Peterson not to praise him?
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:44 am

Nonc Hilaire wrote:You came to Berry Peterson not to praise him?


:lol: Okay, it's corrected now.

The thick of it is that seldom-studied left wing authoritarianism is a lot like the right wing version in that it maps to low verbal ability& high in the personality trait for conscientiousness (a pronounced desire for order specifically).
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Typhoon » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:36 am

Parodite wrote:
Typhoon wrote:
Parodite wrote:I claim a safe space for the most vulnerable: the obsessive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives.


I think you had the
manic-depressive obsessive-compulsive active-regressive passive-aggressive progressives
in mind.

Did you not?


Yes. And... they should be decriminalized, treated like people with a medical condition such as drug addicts in an ideal situation. Covered by universal healthcare insurance. Maybe some crowdfunding to supply their safe spaces with soft cushions, tranquilizing white noise hifi sound systems.. just to make their recovery as smooth and painless as possible.


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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Typhoon » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:15 am

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Dr.Peterson is having a moment of fame right now. I've put most of it aside lately but I thought this was interesting:



Where he and a grad student of his make a distinction between the politically correct-minded egalitarian and the politically correct-minded authoritarian


Good interview. Interesting concepts raised and presented.
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Re: Whom do progressives hate?

Postby Simple Minded » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:30 am

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Dr.Peterson is having a moment of fame right now. I've put most of it aside lately but I thought this was interesting:



Where he and a grad student of his make a distinction between the politically correct-minded egalitarian and the politically correct-minded authoritarian


Excellent interview. Thanks for posting Napster.

Like I said before, I blame parents more than society for bitter individuals. Perverse combination of spankings and hugs as children? :?

No surprise that those who reference Hitler or White Privilege in their "arguments" are both authoritarian and infantile. :)

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Helicopter Moms who really care and want to protect their snowflakes from reality, or Helicopter Moms who just want to be the most important person in their child's life forever, or Dads who say "Boo hoo hoo. Life's tough. Suck it up and deal with it! But whatever you do, get out of the house by age 18!"
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