Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reasoning

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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:46 pm

Simple Minded wrote:
Typhoon wrote:Quillete | The University as a Total Institution

Coined by the famed sociologist Erving Goffman, total institutions are those that seek to control every aspect of life within the organization. Goffman highlighted prisons as an example of a total institution. In a prison, life is regimented, orderly, and compliance with even the most insignificant directive is required. Prisons control what inmates watch on television, what is available to read, what and when an inmate eats, and even what passes through the mail or the phone.


Excellent article. Thanks for posting. The obvious answer is to ban post-it-notes.... except that when post-it-notes are outlawed, only outlaws will have post-it-notes....

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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby noddy » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:57 am

when i attended university that crowd existed and caused public stinks but there was still a healthy amount of other types who laughed at this kind of thinking.

i cant help think that most universities will still have engineering students and other anti left wing arts types at them and these stories are isolated worst case loons.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Typhoon » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:15 pm

Quillete | Attack of the Offendotrons: Tyranny of the Flash Mob

These days, it seems people will be sacked from their job — with their life and that of their family ruined — if they do something a big enough and loud enough mob doesn’t like.


Mobs are historically salient. It’s not so long ago that ‘lynch mob’ was more than metaphor. Righteousness — the belief that moral correctness of belief and action is so pressing and important that it transcends law and custom — is dangerous even in isolated individuals. When it infects a mob, it threatens everyone and everything in its path.

This, at least, has been known for a while, partly because it’s psychologically satisfying for those who indulge. Aldous Huxley observed that the surest way to work up a crusade in favour of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behaviour “righteous indignation” — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.


The case of the Nobel laureate, Tim Hunt, whom the mob of twittering twits on Twitter managed to have sacked, instigated by some stupid bint that was present at his talk, comes to mind:

The Tim Hunt Case
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Simple Minded » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:21 pm

Typhoon wrote:Quillete | Attack of the Offendotrons: Tyranny of the Flash Mob

These days, it seems people will be sacked from their job — with their life and that of their family ruined — if they do something a big enough and loud enough mob doesn’t like.


Mobs are historically salient. It’s not so long ago that ‘lynch mob’ was more than metaphor. Righteousness — the belief that moral correctness of belief and action is so pressing and important that it transcends law and custom — is dangerous even in isolated individuals. When it infects a mob, it threatens everyone and everything in its path.

This, at least, has been known for a while, partly because it’s psychologically satisfying for those who indulge. Aldous Huxley observed that the surest way to work up a crusade in favour of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behaviour “righteous indignation” — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.


Thanks for posting. well said. Give someone the ability to punish the evil while hiding in a mob all for the "common good." What fun!

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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby noddy » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:25 pm

I cant find the source but their was a great spike milligan story that went something like

"I love how you have to stand for the queen, not because i care about the queen but because i can kick anyone that doesnt get up"

captures that mindset perfectly :)
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Simple Minded » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:05 pm

Typhoon wrote:When one has had it.

V. D. Hanson | Monastaries of the Mind


Outstanding article from VDH as usual. Thanks for posting. Mental Monastaries are older, more reliable, and cheaper than augmented reality glasses.

Virtual reality? That's a new concept? In the old days, we called it delusion.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:10 pm

Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:


The Peterson Principle is that a Jung-man has created all these monsters running amok in the first place.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Typhoon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:28 am

Reason | Laura Kipnis, Rape Culture, and the Disappearance of Sex

A recent study in the prestigious Archives of Sexual Behavior last month has garnered significant media attention due to the bombshell revelations that Americans are having less sex than ever. Specifically, and most surprisingly, the Millennial generation appears to be having less sex than anyone, despite all the benefits that technology affords in finding casual sex. This was not the first time that research found similar results. Indeed, another study published in summer of 2016 came to the same conclusion: Millennials, despite all hype to the contrary, were the most prudish generation in a century.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Simple Minded » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:58 am

Typhoon wrote:Reason | Laura Kipnis, Rape Culture, and the Disappearance of Sex

A recent study in the prestigious Archives of Sexual Behavior last month has garnered significant media attention due to the bombshell revelations that Americans are having less sex than ever. Specifically, and most surprisingly, the Millennial generation appears to be having less sex than anyone, despite all the benefits that technology affords in finding casual sex. This was not the first time that research found similar results. Indeed, another study published in summer of 2016 came to the same conclusion: Millennials, despite all hype to the contrary, were the most prudish generation in a century.


Excellent article. thanks for posting. In the first world of snowflakes, where a micro-aggression can be considered a violation, who need to be raped to claim victim status?

About 25(?) years ago, I read an opinion piece where the author looked at the then nascent culture of victimhood and predicted that a society that looked upon pity as a virtue was not going to be a nice place to live. i thought I understood that comment back then, I think I understand it better now.

Interesting form of voluntary segregation, "I tend to view myself as a victim, others who don't view themselves as victims avoid me like the plague. Why are all my friends losers?"

From what I have read, the author's experience with the media is common, if the opinion of the expert does not fit the narrative, the opinion gets deleted.

In a similar line of thought, one wonders what the effect of this ideology is on the employment rate of women from certain colleges.

I note that at college X, people of group identity A, B, and C, do an awful lot of protesting about the unfairness of life and societal injustice.

Note to HR: Don't hire people of group identity A, B, or C who attended college X. Please review our intern program list for the same.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Parodite » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:40 pm

Isn't this the crying wolf problem? Crying rape when there isn't.. then being raped and wonder why nobody believes you anymore.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Typhoon » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:03 am

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Typhoon wrote:Reason | Laura Kipnis, Rape Culture, and the Disappearance of Sex

A recent study in the prestigious Archives of Sexual Behavior last month has garnered significant media attention due to the bombshell revelations that Americans are having less sex than ever. Specifically, and most surprisingly, the Millennial generation appears to be having less sex than anyone, despite all the benefits that technology affords in finding casual sex. This was not the first time that research found similar results. Indeed, another study published in summer of 2016 came to the same conclusion: Millennials, despite all hype to the contrary, were the most prudish generation in a century.


Excellent article. thanks for posting. In the first world of snowflakes, where a micro-aggression can be considered a violation, who need to be raped to claim victim status?

About 25(?) years ago, I read an opinion piece where the author looked at the then nascent culture of victimhood and predicted that a society that looked upon pity as a virtue was not going to be a nice place to live. i thought I understood that comment back then, I think I understand it better now.

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I find the belief that post-coital regret at having had consensual sex constitutes rape to be astonishing as it completely absolves an individual from any responsibility for their decisions and actions.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Typhoon » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:14 am

Quillete | The Crucible of the [Academic] Application Process

It took some time for my advisors to finally convince me to stop talking about reason, rationality, and evidence in my personal statements and interviews. The last straw came when one of my scholarship advisors told me that my views on reason and emotion were, in fact, sexist. Because ‘rationality’ was associated with masculinity and emotion with femininity, she explained, my preference for rationality over emotion was indicative of my unconscious bias against women.


Who would have thought that a ridiculous bunch of 20th century [mostly European; why?] philosophers, such as Foucault, Derrida, and Marcuse, could have such an absurd impact on the academic arts and humanities particularly in the Anglo-Saxon nations.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby NapLajoieonSteroids » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:27 am

Typhoon wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
Typhoon wrote:Reason | Laura Kipnis, Rape Culture, and the Disappearance of Sex

A recent study in the prestigious Archives of Sexual Behavior last month has garnered significant media attention due to the bombshell revelations that Americans are having less sex than ever. Specifically, and most surprisingly, the Millennial generation appears to be having less sex than anyone, despite all the benefits that technology affords in finding casual sex. This was not the first time that research found similar results. Indeed, another study published in summer of 2016 came to the same conclusion: Millennials, despite all hype to the contrary, were the most prudish generation in a century.


Excellent article. thanks for posting. In the first world of snowflakes, where a micro-aggression can be considered a violation, who need to be raped to claim victim status?

About 25(?) years ago, I read an opinion piece where the author looked at the then nascent culture of victimhood and predicted that a society that looked upon pity as a virtue was not going to be a nice place to live. i thought I understood that comment back then, I think I understand it better now.

. . .


I find the belief that post-coital regret at having had consensual sex constitutes rape to be astonishing as it completely absolves an individual from any responsibility for their decisions and actions.


Lots of confused people who don't understand what they want or expect and no one seriously told them that its okay to say no, or preferable in some cases.

A lot of these campus cases boil down to that and, and I'm not talking about the wacky ones that make the news; amount to being large, expensive productions to give the girls a platform to work through being dumb....

Boys who are pressured or violated or assaulted are ignored.

Definitely doesn't help with all the agitprop out there to count yourself in the victim column- what woman, outside of a nun, would ever admit they didn't attract unwanted attention or someone made an unwanted pass at them?
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Simple Minded » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:24 pm

Typhoon wrote:
I find the belief that post-coital regret at having had consensual sex constitutes rape to be astonishing as it completely absolves an individual from any responsibility for their decisions and actions.


Excellent summary. Not sure if this is a conscious effort, probably not, but a goal none the less.

"Society is to blame!"

A modern Zoo in the US is an excellent analogy. It often appears as much money is spent on infrastructure to keep the humans out of the animal enclosures, as is spent to contain the animals.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Parodite » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:01 am

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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed May 10, 2017 5:42 pm

My approach has sort of been ignore it and it goes away. Not part of my existence. When you survey the history of leftism this seems to be just another insane manifestation of the underlying pathology; ie not the root cause.

My thinking is just stay away from them unless they are in danger of capturing a majority, then open warfare.

Am I off base?
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Mr. Perfect » Wed May 10, 2017 5:43 pm

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Lots of confused people who don't understand what they want or expect and no one seriously told them that its okay to say no, or preferable in some cases.

No, it's an agenda.
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Re: Microaggressions, trigger warnings, and emotional reason

Postby Typhoon » Wed May 10, 2017 6:49 pm

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Brilliant. A very clear exposition.
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