The Rise and Fall(?) of the Self Esteem Movement

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I have a truckload of respect for them, so many alternative colonies have self destructed in ego or irrelevance and they keep on going.

the ratio of failures on setting up such things must be 99.99% - i have personally watched so many fail in my lifetime.

my only complaint is they have called quits on modernity a tad early, id be happier with post electronic version :)
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I'm no Amish/Mennonite expert but I thought that a majority of their communities accept new technologies on a community-by-community basis- refrigeration and washing machines and phones were "in" for a majority of them. Computers- with as few features as possible- are a big hit too...some sort of electricity has to be powering all that decadence. ;)

If I was a cheap tablet maker, I might wanna look into targeting some sort of budget tablet towards them.
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*compulsory quibbling*

tablets are for content consumption - cheapo arm linux machines would be more appropriate for content production. cough.

i could fake being amish under those conditions, provided my need to agree with the dogma was kept to a minimum
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What I'm thinking is that the size of our is a notion reflected in the mind; on that front we are inveterate poets, as C.S. Lewis remarked.
"We are inveterate poets. Our imaginations awake. Instead of mere quantity, we now have a quality--the sublime. Unless this were so, the merely arithmetical greatness of the galaxy would be no more impressive than the figures in a telephone directory. It is thus, in a sense, from ourselves that the material universe derives its power to over-awe us. To a mind which did not share our emotions, and lacked our imaginative energies, the argument from size would be sheerly meaningless. Men look on the starry heavens with reverence: monkeys do not. The silence of the eternal spaces terrified Pascal, but it was the greatness of Pascal that enabled them to do so. When we are frightened by the greatness of the universe, we are (almost literally) frightened by our own shadows: for these light years and billions of centuries are mere arithmetic until the shadow of man, the poet, the maker of myth, falls upon them."
Now, your 7 billion and going up with no place to go could be a veritable mouse utopia w/ it's behavioral sink. I don't know enough about Calhoun's work-- truth be told I am irrationally afraid and grossed out by mice so I try to limit my time with all mouse-related things not in the Mickey Mouse category-- but before crawling into that whole I'd point to a loss of nerve among our "elites" [for convenience of a shorthand] contributing to a lot of nonsense.
Most of us on this speeding rock get by just fine or feel special enough without competing with Michael Jordan, Issac Newton and Alexander the Great.
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for sure, but some would argue the self esteem movement is taking that thought and making it real.

'yes little darling that sounds like cats being raped, your singing is lovely'

we dont *need* to compete with the best, but the globalist modern thing with high immigration requires even the hairdressers to do so.

i can imagine a million ways to organise this that dont end up that way but that train of thought is the madness that lefties suffer from

for now, i cant see any of this sensible reaction, i see the self esteem movement as a desperate hope from parents they can get their brat up and competing.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: I'd point to a loss of nerve among our "elites" [for convenience of a shorthand] contributing to a lot of nonsense. .
the elites are as naked against the chaos as the rest of us, this is reality of the globalised world.

they cant promise anything, and if they do its lies.

everything is changing too fast.
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noddy wrote:*compulsory quibbling*

tablets are for content consumption - cheapo arm linux machines would be more appropriate for content production. cough.
I stand corrected; I've tablet on the brain as I received a budget one this christmas and thought price and social control of allowable applications would make it a hit through the amish community w/o having to worry about someone falling into vice with a whole internet-connected computing device!
i could fake being amish under those conditions, provided my need to agree with the dogma was kept to a minimum
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: "I could be as Amish as you need me to be, just as long as you make no demands and expect little conformity."
silly clothes and half a day in church is less than my current commitment
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I checked out an Amish porn website once and it was all videos of animal husbandry.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:I checked out an Amish porn website once and it was all videos of animal husbandry.
link please....
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Simple Minded wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:I checked out an Amish porn website once and it was all videos of animal husbandry.
link please....
I'll check. I majored in animal husbandry until they caught me at it.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:I checked out an Amish porn website once and it was all videos of animal husbandry.
link please....
I'll check. I majored in animal husbandry until they caught me at it.
I know the feeling...... ;) You were a baaaaaad boy!

I actually went to SUNY at Alfred, an Ag & Tech college. Whenever anyone said they were majoring in animal husbandry, the fun began.

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