Rand again

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Rand again

Postby manolo » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:10 am

Folks,

In the attached link, some liberal comics attack Ayn Rand using mockery. IMHO this fails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8m8cQI4DgM

Rand was a good philosopher, and her thought experiment was effective. By encouraging us to think of humans as creatures of selfishness only, Rand performs a powerful philosophical reduction. As people without higher functions, Rand describes a zombie world of appetite alone and it is the vision of such a world that points up what is lacking in her picture.

This strategy has been used many times before in philosophy, with Descartes reducing our world to cogito, Wittgenstein reducing our world to language, Ayer reducing our world to logic. The list goes on. This is a game philosophers love to play, and why not? It is in the reduction that we find the value of what is not reduced.

In this search, Rand stands with the best.

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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:31 am

Alex,

You just mentioned what some at OTNOT consider to be a four-letter-word.

May the force be with you!

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Re: Rand again

Postby noddy » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:27 pm

im glad you warned me about her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Rand

Yvonne Rand is a "lay householder"[1] Soto Zen priest and guiding teacher of Goat-in-the-Road[2] located in Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, California. A meditation center which practices predominantly Soto Zen but also incorporates elements of Theravada and Vajrayana Buddhism, the "name Goat-in-the-Road recalls Yvonne's early rescue of young goats from a local Spring barbecue auction


seems quite dodgy - pro goat and anti bbq.
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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:43 pm

noddy wrote:im glad you warned me about her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Rand

Yvonne Rand is a "lay householder"[1] Soto Zen priest and guiding teacher of Goat-in-the-Road[2] located in Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, California. A meditation center which practices predominantly Soto Zen but also incorporates elements of Theravada and Vajrayana Buddhism, the "name Goat-in-the-Road recalls Yvonne's early rescue of young goats from a local Spring barbecue auction


seems quite dodgy - pro goat and anti bbq.


out of the BBQ and into the sex trade as they say....
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Re: Rand again

Postby noddy » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:39 pm

Simple Minded wrote:
noddy wrote:im glad you warned me about her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Rand

Yvonne Rand is a "lay householder"[1] Soto Zen priest and guiding teacher of Goat-in-the-Road[2] located in Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, California. A meditation center which practices predominantly Soto Zen but also incorporates elements of Theravada and Vajrayana Buddhism, the "name Goat-in-the-Road recalls Yvonne's early rescue of young goats from a local Spring barbecue auction


seems quite dodgy - pro goat and anti bbq.


out of the BBQ and into the sex trade as they say....


sheep with handles or sticky ribs, the kind of binary reductionist outcome that the deli llama loses sleep over.
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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:41 pm

noddy wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
noddy wrote:im glad you warned me about her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Rand

Yvonne Rand is a "lay householder"[1] Soto Zen priest and guiding teacher of Goat-in-the-Road[2] located in Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, California. A meditation center which practices predominantly Soto Zen but also incorporates elements of Theravada and Vajrayana Buddhism, the "name Goat-in-the-Road recalls Yvonne's early rescue of young goats from a local Spring barbecue auction


seems quite dodgy - pro goat and anti bbq.


out of the BBQ and into the sex trade as they say....


sheep with handles or sticky ribs, the kind of binary reductionist outcome that the deli llama loses sleep over.


When there is no Mrs. Dali Lama to help keep one focused or to cook the goat, the mind wanders.
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Re: Rand again

Postby manolo » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:43 am

Simple Minded wrote:Alex,

You just mentioned what some at OTNOT consider to be a four-letter-word.



SM,

In all honesty, I cannot deny that 'Rand' is a four letter word. :)

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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:39 am

manolo wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:Alex,

You just mentioned what some at OTNOT consider to be a four-letter-word.



SM,

In all honesty, I cannot deny that 'Rand' is a four letter word. :)

Alex.


:lol: right you are.

oddly enough, so are left and rite..... ;)
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Re: Rand again

Postby manolo » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:31 pm

Simple Minded wrote:oddly enough, so are left and rite..... ;)


SM,

You have coined a new term for the political 'rite'. :)

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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:05 am

manolo wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:oddly enough, so are left and rite..... ;)


SM,

You have coined a new term for the political 'rite'. :)

Alex.


seemed like the rite thing to do......
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Re: Rand again

Postby noddy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:41 pm

wrights write on the rites of the right.
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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:43 pm

noddy wrote:wrights write on the rites of the right.


It ain't easy being self-righteous, or even non-self-righteous for that matter.
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Re: Rand again

Postby Typhoon » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:54 pm

Simple Minded wrote:
noddy wrote:im glad you warned me about her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Rand

Yvonne Rand is a "lay householder"[1] Soto Zen priest and guiding teacher of Goat-in-the-Road[2] located in Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, California. A meditation center which practices predominantly Soto Zen but also incorporates elements of Theravada and Vajrayana Buddhism, the "name Goat-in-the-Road recalls Yvonne's early rescue of young goats from a local Spring barbecue auction


seems quite dodgy - pro goat and anti bbq.


out of the BBQ and into the sex trade as they say....


Goatsee.

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Re: Rand again

Postby noddy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:33 am

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Re: Rand again

Postby manolo » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:18 am

Simple Minded wrote:.... even non-self-righteous for that matter.


SM,

My old philosophy prof used to say: "The only thing I can be sure of is that I may be wrong."

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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:20 pm

manolo wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:.... even non-self-righteous for that matter.


SM,

My old philosophy prof used to say: "The only thing I can be sure of is that I may be wrong."

Alex.


Timeless wisdom, from a self-conscious individual....... the kind of neighbor I enjoy. ;)
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Re: Rand again

Postby noddy » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:26 pm

i may be wrong but the chances are far better that its the other durian who is.
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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:28 pm

noddy wrote:i may be wrong but the chances are far better that its the other durian who is.


The best part about being selfless is...... you're never wrong! ;)
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Re: Rand again

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:35 pm

Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
“Christ has no body now but yours. Yours are the eyes through which he looks with compassion on this world. Yours are the feet with which he walks among His people to do good. Yours are the hands through which he blesses His creation.”

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Re: Rand again

Postby noddy » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:54 pm

Simple Minded wrote:
noddy wrote:i may be wrong but the chances are far better that its the other durian who is.


The best part about being selfless is...... you're never wrong! ;)


we are all one, my stupidity is actually yours, im just sharing because im nice like that.

Nonc Hilaire wrote:Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.


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Re: Rand again

Postby Simple Minded » Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:41 pm

noddy wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
noddy wrote:i may be wrong but the chances are far better that its the other durian who is.


The best part about being selfless is...... you're never wrong! ;)


we are all one, my stupidity is actually yours, im just sharing because im nice like that.

I feel you feeling my pain and it feels like mental masturbation. I think the intellectuals use the term confirmation bi-ass.

Misery loves company..... and it's nice to think that I'm not a f**k up, but the world is unfair, the deck is stacked against us liddle guys...... and everyone else is a f**ked as I am....... and all that good stuff.

thanks for being there for me. I'm also there for you and the rest of us...... :P
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