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Do Millennial Men Want Stay-at-Home Wives?

In 1994, only 42 percent of high school seniors agreed that the best family was one where the man was the main income earner and the woman took care of the home.

But in 2014, 58 percent of seniors said they preferred that arrangement. In 1994, fewer than 30 percent of high school seniors thought “the husband should make all the important decisions in the family.” By 2014, nearly 40 percent subscribed to that premise.

A different survey found a similar trend, in this case concentrated mainly among men. In 1994, 83 percent of young men rejected the superiority of the male-breadwinner family. By 2014 that had fallen to 55 percent. Women’s disagreement fell far less, from 85 percent in 1994 to 72 percent in 2014. Since 1994, young women’s confidence that employed women are just as good mothers as stay-at-home moms has continued to inch up, but young men’s has fallen. In fact, by 2014, men aged 18 to 25 were more traditional than their elders.

Funny, Khamnei said something to that effect too

http://english.khamenei.ir/Opinions/OpinionWomen

http://sayyidali.com/viewpoints/imam-kh ... t-two.html

http://www.rferl.org/a/iran-khamenei-ta ... 90611.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 41041.html

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-leade ... nist-plot/

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017 ... -humanity/


Both saying same thing .. "Millennial Men Want Stay-at-Home Wives" .. woman main task should be raising the children


In Europe, woman do quit job after having baby, spend all their time raising children .. true, the family income decreases, but quality of family life, quality of raising the children rises, leading to more happy family life and healthy society.

There is a lot of talk in America about "Family Value", mostly by conservatives .. but , that just "hot air" .. in a materialistic world, where enjoyment equals bigger car and house, the family is sacrificed .. children come home with mom and dad @ job, go to fridge, put some ketchup on Bred and peanut butter, drop in front of TV till Mom comes home (children raised with hot-dogs and pizza from fridge) .. most broken family

Schools can not replace mom and dad with family value education ..

That is why The Wholesale Sedation of America’s Youth


So, Khamnei might have a valid case, Doc.


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the house prices doubled due to working women raising the bar on prices and middle class immigration is being used to prop them up now that the local markets in the west are in recession.

sure, we could go back to stable old ways but thats a few riots , revolutions and a complete shutdown of immigration.

be careful what you wish for.
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TimesOfIsrael
While West promotes ‘gender justice,’
Khamenei suggests real justice is promoting woman’s role as a housewife



‘ gender justice ’
.. that explains why now man also get pregnant :lol:

What a rubbish

What is ‘gender justice’ ? ?

Woman, for 1001 reason, natural selection, evolution, defined woman for motherhood.

During millions of yrs of human spicy evolution, by default, only those female continued who had strong motherhood characteristic, female who did not have that died out.

Difference between man and woman is not only physical, there much more than that.

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good luck having that opinion out loud in canada.
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noddy wrote:.

good luck having that opinion out loud in Canada.

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noddy , you misunderstand

Girls do not mind, in fact they would love not to work and take care of children and be professional MOM .. that is why they want "rich" husband.

Issue not that

Issue is, materialism

The family, husband and wife, do not want to settle with "one income" .. they want higher income .. go skiing, go holidays on resorts, maybe bigger house, 2 cars and and .. reason is, north Americans think "more" makes them happier, the society has made to believe so by "consumer industry lobby" .. they live to make money, not make money to live, life is much more "superficial" .. In continent Europe, people think different.


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Women have always participated in the workforce. Rural economics required it and family owned businesses with all hands on deck have always existed. And it wasn't so different in the industrial age

Women made up roughly 35% of the working population in 1957 and today it's around 47%.

While there has been a secular decline of stay-at-home mom's, the number has held steady at roughly around 25% among the age group of 25-55 for a very long time now despite any secular trends. [There are 35 to 36 million in that age cohort and around 9 million who have dropped out of the labor market for "home responsibilities".]
That 12% increase of 'working women' is not that all that great and hasn't had a huge effect on employment-to-population ratios in the post-war period, which is now over 8 decades now.

What has changed, and was one of the impetuses for making some of the Women's Liberation arguments about labor arrangements plausible was that pre-war, it was assumed that any woman seeking (or already in) employment in a professional-managerial position was presumed to be celibate, and not a priority for those kinds of positions- effectively barring them from participating in (mostly) haute-bourgeoisie class work.

This has been the change, and a lot of agitation over this issue is born out of a small group of people fighting over what's been 12 to 13% of jobs in the economy since the 1920s.

There are a lot of problems out there but let's not exaggerate them.

...and when it comes to what young people want- well, they don't know what they want and they get it good and hard.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:

...and when it comes to what young people want- well, they don't know what they want and they get it good and hard.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: . . .

...and when it comes to what young people want- well, they don't know what they want and they get it good and hard.
:lol:

H. L. Mencken well paraphrased.
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A divorced adulterer who ran a gambling empire,
How did America’s Moral Majority get so evangelical about Donald Trump ?


Flynt’s answer is that his people are changing. The words of Jesus, as recorded in the Gospels, are less central to their thinking and behaviour, he says. Church is less compelling. Marriage is less important. Reading from a severely abridged Bible, their political concerns have narrowed down to abortion and issues involving homosexuality. Their faith, he says, has been put in a president who embodies an unholy trinity of materialism, hedonism and narcissism. Trump’s victory, in this sense, is less an expression of the old-time religion than evidence of a move away from it.

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“The 2016 election laid out graphically what is in essence the loss of Christian America,” Flynt says . .

much more @ link

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Well, folks .. this shows how western modernity degenerated into toilet

What a disaster : "trinity of materialism, hedonism and narcissism."

" Trump’s victory, in this sense, is less an expression of the old-time religion than evidence of a move away from it. "

“Arguably, what has constituted white evangelical Christian morality for 200 years no longer matters, which is to say we’re now a lot like Germany, a lot like France, a lot like England, a lot like the Netherlands, and what we have is a sort of late-stage Christian afterglow.”

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Before he married any of his three wives, all of whom are still alive, Trump spent the early years of the culture wars taking in the scene at the Studio 54 disco in Manhattan, where he told a biographer he once watched seven “well-known supermodels getting screwed on a bench in the middle of the room”.

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“No one I know of would argue that Donald Trump inculcates moral character,” Flynt says. “What has happened to American Christianity is there is this afterglow of what a candidate is supposed to represent. It’s no longer moral character. It’s policy positions on things that bother evangelicals.”

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. . evangelical Protestants in the US were more likely to be divorced or separated than Catholics, Jews, Muslims or atheists.

“Jesus says four times in four different places: do not divorce,” Flynt says. “Does divorce bother evangelicals ? No, absolutely not. Does adultery bother evangelicals? No, not really, because if so they wouldn’t have voted for Donald Trump. So what bothers them? Abortion and same-sex marriage. Beyond that, there’s no longer an agenda.


Poor Joe .. who did this to our beloved America, who did it, NH, SM, Doc, MP + NapLajoieonSteroids ? :lol:


Amen

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Poor Joe .. who did this to our beloved America, who did it, NH, SM, Doc, MP + NapLajoieonSteroids ? :lol:

Amen
right now, I'm thinking morally superior Pomegranates who became deplorable Trump voters. ;) Or maybe Inshallah?

I was gonna blame Mrs. HP for letting you vote, but I guess when it comes down to a pussy grabber, or a pussy you wouldn't want to grab after a night unlimited free alcohol, I understand your actions.

No sweat Bro, we're in this together! :)
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