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Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:06 pm
by Doc
Actual math test question in Singapore for 6th graders

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Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:18 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
That Cheryl. What a bitch! Albert & Bernard need to look elsewhere.

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:54 pm
by Doc
Nonc Hilaire wrote:That Cheryl. What a bitch! Albert & Bernard need to look elsewhere.
maybe we should send them a link to beautiful women :lol:

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:13 am
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
August 17th.......'>...........

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:44 pm
by Doc
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:August 17th.......'>...........
No But you are between one day and two months of being correct :P

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:21 pm
by Yukon Cornelius
Had to look -- it's critical to know that Albert and Bernard ONLY communicate to each other in the printed statements.

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:25 pm
by Azrael
Doc wrote:
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:August 17th.......'>...........
No But you are between one day and two months of being correct :P
July 16.

1. Eliminate May & June
2. Eliminate 14
3. Eliminate August

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:41 pm
by Doc
Azrael wrote:
Doc wrote:
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:August 17th.......'>...........
No But you are between one day and two months of being correct :P
July 16.

1. Eliminate May & June
2. Eliminate 14
3. Eliminate August

Maybe. But if so it is not logical.

http://mothership.sg/2015/04/p5-logic-q ... -students/
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Bonus questions

A)Is this logical torture of 6th graders?
B)Logical torture of the adults trying to solve it?
C)A Torture of logic itself?
D) All of the above?

And

Is logical torture ever acceptable?


:D

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:45 pm
by Azrael
That's what I did. It was fun.

It would have been torture if I didn't know that Albert and Bernard were telling the truth and if I didn't know that there was a way to deterministically determine the correct answer, rather than just a lucky guess.

Interesting question: if we didn't have Albert's last response, what would be the probability that July 16 is the correct answer?

50% (assuming equal chance between July and August)?
25% (assuming equal chance between all 4 remaining birthdays)?

Something else?

Edit: I think 25%

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:00 am
by Doc
Azrael wrote:That's what I did. It was fun.

It would have been torture if I didn't know that Albert and Bernard were telling the truth
That is the rub It does not say that all statements are true. We don't know what either Albert and Bernard were told. I think it is probably whoever wrote the article but standard logic questions like this are suppose to say that all statements are true. What if Bernard was told the "15th"? Maybe albert was mistaken when he said he knew the answer rather than lying?

For a 6th grade test I think this is over the top even if they stated that all statements are true.
and if I didn't know that there was a way to deterministically determine the correct answer, rather than just a lucky guess.

Interesting question: if we didn't have Albert's last response, what would be the probability that July 16 is the correct answer?

50% (assuming equal chance between July and August)?
25% (assuming equal chance between all 4 remaining birthdays)?

Something else?

Edit: I think 25%
I think it you would have to evaluate all of the statements one at a time and give the odds for being right in the order they were made to get the percentage. What if Cheryl was not telling the truth? :D

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:38 am
by Azrael
Doc wrote:
Azrael wrote:That's what I did. It was fun.

It would have been torture if I didn't know that Albert and Bernard were telling the truth
That is the rub It does not say that all statements are true. We don't know what either Albert and Bernard were told. I think it is probably whoever wrote the article but standard logic questions like this are suppose to say that all statements are true. What if Bernard was told the "15th"? Maybe albert was mistaken when he said he knew the answer rather than lying?

For a 6th grade test I think this is over the top even if they stated that all statements are true.
and if I didn't know that there was a way to deterministically determine the correct answer, rather than just a lucky guess.

Interesting question: if we didn't have Albert's last response, what would be the probability that July 16 is the correct answer?

50% (assuming equal chance between July and August)?
25% (assuming equal chance between all 4 remaining birthdays)?

Something else?

Edit: I think 25%
I think it you would have to evaluate all of the statements one at a time and give the odds for being right in the order they were made to get the percentage. What if Cheryl was not telling the truth? :D
I don't think that she lied.

She never mentioned the year. :wink:

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:07 pm
by Simple Minded
suddenly, I have new insight into how people confuse weather with climate..... and computer modeling with reality......

sixth grade computer modeling math classes..... :roll:

Re: Are you smarter than a sixth grader?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:53 pm
by Doc
Azrael wrote:
Doc wrote:
Azrael wrote:That's what I did. It was fun.

It would have been torture if I didn't know that Albert and Bernard were telling the truth
That is the rub It does not say that all statements are true. We don't know what either Albert and Bernard were told. I think it is probably whoever wrote the article but standard logic questions like this are suppose to say that all statements are true. What if Bernard was told the "15th"? Maybe albert was mistaken when he said he knew the answer rather than lying?

For a 6th grade test I think this is over the top even if they stated that all statements are true.
and if I didn't know that there was a way to deterministically determine the correct answer, rather than just a lucky guess.

Interesting question: if we didn't have Albert's last response, what would be the probability that July 16 is the correct answer?

50% (assuming equal chance between July and August)?
25% (assuming equal chance between all 4 remaining birthdays)?

Something else?

Edit: I think 25%
I think it you would have to evaluate all of the statements one at a time and give the odds for being right in the order they were made to get the percentage. What if Cheryl was not telling the truth? :D
I don't think that she lied.

She never mentioned the year. :wink:
Yeah what a B*tch. ;)