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Crocus sativus wrote:.

this does not belong here .. but , as I know you guys are brainwashed by media and Bush , I post here



Interview with Osama bin Laden. Denies his Involvement in 9/11


The Osama bin Laden Myth


American government (with knowledge of European governments) did 9/11
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloshSGAJ1s[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... J1s#t=327s

Osama Bin Laden Admits Planning 9/11 in Meeting with Egyptian Terrorist, taped by Al Qaeda @ 5:30

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/mil ... _1998.html
Al Qaeda's Second Fatwa
The following text is the fatwa published on Feb. 23, 1998, to declare a holy war against the West and Israel. It is signed by Osama bin Laden, head of al Qaeda; Ayman al-Zawahiri, head of Jihad Group in Egypt, and other Islamic terrorist groups.
Praise be to God, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but God is worshipped, God who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders.

The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since God made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas -- been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.

Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors. Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al-Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said: "As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life." On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty God: "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? -- women and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"

We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.

Almighty God said: "O ye who believe, give your response to God and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that God cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."

Almighty God also says: "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of God, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For God hath power over all things."

Almighty God also says: "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith."
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

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Doc wrote:
Crocus sativus wrote:.

this does not belong here .. but , as I know you guys are brainwashed by media and Bush , I post here



Interview with Osama bin Laden. Denies his Involvement in 9/11


The Osama bin Laden Myth


American government (with knowledge of European governments) did 9/11
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloshSGAJ1s[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... J1s#t=327s

Osama Bin Laden Admits Planning 9/11 in Meeting with Egyptian Terrorist, taped by Al Qaeda @ 5:30

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/mil ... _1998.html
Al Qaeda's Second Fatwa
The following text is the fatwa published on Feb. 23, 1998, to declare a holy war against the West and Israel. It is signed by Osama bin Laden, head of al Qaeda; Ayman al-Zawahiri, head of Jihad Group in Egypt, and other Islamic terrorist groups.
Praise be to God, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but God is worshipped, God who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders.

The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since God made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas -- been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.

Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors. Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al-Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said: "As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life." On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty God: "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? -- women and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"

We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.

Almighty God said: "O ye who believe, give your response to God and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that God cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."

Almighty God also says: "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of God, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For God hath power over all things."

Almighty God also says: "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith."
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Doc

now, with electronic tools, video and audio clips can be produced anybody saying anything

When Khomeini was coming to Tehran, many audio cassettes were circulated Shah saying all sort of things .. were all fake

All Bin Laden videos are fake and produced by American government to make a case and fool western public .. same with Fatwas and other rubbish

This interview is confirmed without any shadow of doubt

http://www.globalresearch.ca/interview- ... 9-11/24697

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Interview with Osama bin Laden. Denies his Involvement in 9/11

Full text of Pakistani paper's Sept 01 "exclusive" interview


We bring to the attention of our readers the following text of Osama bin Laden’s interview with Ummat, a Pakistani daily, published in Karachi on September 28, 2001. It was translated into English by the BBC World Monitoring Service and made public on September 29, 2001.

The authenticity of this interview, which is available in recognized electronic news archives, is confirmed.


Osama bin Laden categorically denies his involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

Bin Laden’s statements in this interview are markedly different from those made in the alleged Osama video tapes.

In this interview, Osama bin Laden exhibits an understanding of US foreign policy. He expresses his views regarding the loss of life on 9/11. He also makes statements as to who, in his opinion, might be the likely perpetrator of the September 11 attacks.

This is an important text which has not been brought to the attention of Western public opinion.


We have highlighted key sections of this interview. It is our hope that the text of this interview, published barely a week before the onset of the war on Afghanistan, will contribute to a better understanding of the history of Al Qaeda, the role of Osama bin Laden and the tragic events of September 11, 2001.


Michel Chossudovsky, May 9, 2011

Full text of September 2001 Pakistani paper’s “exclusive” interview with Usamah Bin-Ladin

Ummat (in Urdu), Karachi, 28 September 2001, pp. 1 and 7.

Ummat’s introduction

Kabul: Prominent Arab mojahed holy warrior Usamah Bin-Ladin has said that he or his al-Qa’idah group has nothing to do with the 11 September suicidal attacks in Washington and New York. He said the US government should find the attackers within the country. In an exclusive interview with daily “Ummat”, he said these attacks could be the act of those who are part of the American system and are rebelling against it and working for some other system. Or, Usamah said, this could be the act of those who want to make the current century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. Or, the American Jews, who are opposed to President Bush ever since the Florida elections, might be the masterminds of this act. There is also a great possibility of the involvement of US intelligence agencies, which need billions of dollars worth of funds every year. He said there is a government within the government in the United States.

The secret agencies, he said, should be asked as to who are behind the attacks. Usamah said support for attack on Afghanistan was a matter of need for some Muslim countries and compulsion for others. However, he said, he was thankful to the courageous people of Pakistan who erected a bulwark before the wrong forces. He added that the Islamic world was attaching great expectations with Pakistan and, in time of need, “we will protect this bulwark by sacrificing of lives”.

Following is the interview in full detail:

Ummat: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in New York and Washington. What do you want to say about this? If you are not involved, who might be?

Usamah [Osama bin Laden]: In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful. Praise be to Allah, Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who made the earth as an abode for peace, for the whole mankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad for our guidance. I am thankful to the Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the opportunity to convey my viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and Momin true Muslim people of Pakistan who refused to believe in lie of the demon.

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children, and other people.

Such a practice is forbidden ever in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children, and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.

There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya, and Bosnia?

Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims .

The US has no friends, nor does it want to keep any because the prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or consider him at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or subordinates.

However, our case is different. We have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after this pledge there is no possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that, it will be disregardful to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the world nations upholding their freedom are the religious ones, which are the enemies of United States, or the latter itself considers them as its enemies. Or the countries, which do not agree to become its slaves, such as China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria, and the former Russia as received .

Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed.

According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the US government has stated. But the Bush administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. They can be any one, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the US itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups, which are capable of causing a large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.

Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This funding issue was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger.

They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda against Usamah and Taleban and then this incident happened. You see, the Bush administration approved a budget of 40bn dollars. Where will this huge amount go? It will be provided to the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their importance.

Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the US secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the US Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other US president, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who made the attacks.

Ummat: A number of world countries have joined the call of the United States for launching an attack on Afghanistan. These also include a number of Muslim countries. Will Al-Qa’idah declare a jihad against these countries as well?

Usamah: I must say that my duty is just to awaken the Muslims; to tell them as to what is good for them and what is not. What does Islam says and what the enemies of Islam want?

Al-Qa’idah was set up to wage a jihad against infidelity, particularly to encounter the onslaught of the infidel countries against the Islamic states. Jihad is the sixth undeclared element of Islam. The first five being the basic holy words of Islam, prayers, fast, pilgrimage to Mecca, and giving alms Every anti-Islamic person is afraid of it. Al-Qa’idah wants to keep this element alive and active and make it part of the daily life of the Muslims. It wants to give it the status of worship. We are not against any Islamic country nor we consider a war against an Islamic country as jihad.

We are in favour of armed jihad only against those infidel countries, which are killing innocent Muslim men, women, and children just because they are Muslims. Supporting the US act is the need of some Muslim countries and the compulsion of others. However, they should think as to what will remain of their religious and moral position if they support the attack of the Christians and the Jews on a Muslim country like Afghanistan. The orders of Islamic shari’ah jurisprudence for such individuals, organizations, and countries are clear and all the scholars of the Muslim brotherhood are unanimous on them. We will do the same, which is being ordered by the Amir ol-Momenin the commander of the faithful Mola Omar and the Islamic scholars. The hearts of the people of Muslim countries are beating with the call of jihad. We are grateful to them.

Ummat: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and Washington have proved that giving an economic blow to the US is not too difficult. US experts admit that a few more such attacks can bring down the American economy. Why is al-Qa’idah not targeting their economic pillars?

Usamah: I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the US is not uttering a single word.

Ummat: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through other means, apart from the armed struggle? For instance, inciting the Muslims to boycott Western products, banks, shipping lines, and TV channels.

Usamah: The first thing is that Western products could only be boycotted when the Muslim fraternity is fully awakened and organized. Secondly, the Muslim companies should become self-sufficient in producing goods equal to the products of Western companies. Economic boycott of the West is not possible unless economic self-sufficiency is attained and substitute products are brought out. You see that wealth is scattered all across the Muslim world but not a single TV channel has been acquired which can preach Islamic injunctions according to modern requirements and attain an international influence. Muslim traders and philanthropists should make it a point that if the weapon of public opinion is to be used, it is to be kept in the hand. Today’s world is of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done.

Ummat: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far been made by the Western media. But no information is being received from your sources about the network of Al-Qa’idah and its jihadi successes. Would you comment?

Usamah: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing else. It has no other theme to survive for a long time. Then we have many other things to do. The struggle for jihad and the successes are for the sake of Allah and not to annoy His bondsmen. Our silence is our real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or corrigendum only waste your time and through them, the enemy wants you to engage in things which are not of use to you. These things are pulling you away from your cause.

The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which make us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness.

Ummat: What will the impact of the freeze of al-Qa’idah accounts by the US?

Usamah: God opens up ways for those who work for Him. Freezing of accounts will not make any difference for Al-Qa’idah or other jihad groups. With the grace of Allah, al-Qa’idah has more than three such alternative financial systems, which are all separate and totally independent from each other. This system is operating under the patronage of those who love jihad. What to say of the United States, even the combined world cannot budge these people from their path.

These people are not in hundreds but in thousands and millions. Al-Qa’idah comprises of such modern educated youths who are aware of the cracks inside the Western financial system as they are aware of the lines in their hands. These are the very flaws of the Western fiscal system, which are becoming a noose for it and this system could not recuperate in spite of the passage of so many days.

Ummat: Are there other safe areas other than Afghanistan, where you can continue jihad?

Usamah: There are areas in all parts of the world where strong jihadi forces are present, from Indonesia to Algeria, from Kabul to Chechnya, from Bosnia to Sudan, and from Burma to Kashmir. Then it is not the problem of my person. I am helpless fellowman of God, constantly in the fear of my accountability before God. It is not the question of Usamah but of Islam and, in Islam too, of jihad. Thanks to God, those waging a jihad can walk today with their heads raised. Jihad was still present when there was no Usamah and it will remain as such even when Usamah is no longer there. Allah opens up ways and creates loves in the hearts of people for those who walk on the path of Allah with their lives, property, and children. Believe it, through jihad, a man gets everything he desires. And the biggest desire of a Muslim is the after life. Martyrdom is the shortest way of attaining an eternal life.

Ummat: What do you say about the Pakistan government policy on Afghanistan attack?

Usamah: We are thankful to the Momin and valiant people of Pakistan who erected a blockade in front of the wrong forces and stood in the first file of battle. Pakistan is a great hope for the Islamic brotherhood. Its people are awakened, organized, and rich in the spirit of faith. They backed Afghanistan in its war against the Soviet Union and extended every help to the mojahedin and the Afghan people. Then these are very Pakistanis who are standing shoulder by shoulder with the Taleban. If such people emerge in just two countries, the domination of the West will diminish in a matter of days. Our hearts beat with Pakistan and, God forbid, if a difficult time comes we will protect it with our blood. Pakistan is sacred for us like a place of worship. We are the people of jihad and fighting for the defence of Pakistan is the best of all jihads to us. It does not matter for us as to who rules Pakistan. The important thing is that the spirit of jihad is alive and stronger in the hearts of the Pakistani people.[/color]

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Huxley wrote:.

Consider how many Jews take offense when a non-Jew makes an obvious, noncontroversial statement like "The movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews." (Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League would prefer that we say "All eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish"!)

The sensitivity, the concerns about being singled out - and envied, and blamed - are completely understandable. But America is hardly teetering on the brink of a pogrom. Jews have ascended to the commanding heights of American business, finance, politics, and intellectual life. In effect, they have assumed a leadership role somewhat analogous to that once held by the WASPs. It's a great, all-American success story. Yet most Jews are extremely reluctant to acknowledge that fact. The topic is almost verboten.

Perhaps it's time for Jews to acknowledge publicly - and allow others to acknowledge - their disproportionate status as wealthy, privileged elites. The WASPs certainly did.

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I will answer your above post despite running the danger of being called names :

Do we resent or envy "Claude Monet, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Camille Pissarro and Alfred Sisley" ? ?

Do we resent or envy "Frédéric Chopin, Bethoven, Bach" ? ?

Do we resent or envy "Einstein, Oppenheimer, Bohr"

No , we don't

Why, not ? ?

because they fairly earned it

Not so those folks in Holly-Wood and Wall Street .. or those bankers in Germany and Britain and Paris and New York that became filthy rich and in the process ruined Germany and Poland and America

Issue with Jews in Wall Street and Holly-wood is things not fair .. Is Paul Volker a singularity in WASP world, there is no other than Greenspan and Bernanke in other ethinics ? same with Summers and Rubin and and and

1930, 95% of Lawyers in Berlin were Jewish, head of law faculty and all professors Jewish .. would mean Germans had 2B idiots and could not make the law school

Same thing applies to WASP .. old boys club mentality

Excuse that WASP or Catholics (or Muslim might) do same thing does not only justifies but also confirms the point here

Technology has eliminated barriers worldwide, world is now ONE village, talent in the future will be Indian, Iranian, Chinese, Brazilian, Jewish, Polish, German and and and .. AND .. that requires equals opportunities must prevail for any athnicity, old boys club is out of the window .. now, Iranian films are praised, showing there is another side to the rubbish movies produced by Holly Wood to manufacture sentiment and brainwash American Joe with garbage, which mostly are glorifying Zionism and belitteling and putting down Iran (Holly Wood has produced 5 major anti Iran movies last 5 yrs faking history and facts) and Muslims and Arabs (same was done to Chinese when cold war) .. and .. Holly wood was and is a sentiment manufacturing within the establishment .. look how many Iranian movie producers are in jail or have escaped Iran, versus of nobody banned or escaped in Holly Wood (showing they tools of the establishment and Zionist), when Holly-Wood did not fall in line (Communism, Charley Chaplin, Arthur Miller and and) we saw what happened (Chaplin and Garbo and others had to leave America) .. now Hillary darling of those special interests .. Oliver Stone and others sidelined .. same thing happening in Wall Street, all those hedge fund CEO making billions with inside info, FED, SEC and everybody else knows this, Medoff just had an interview and confirmed this, but, not a single one in jail, yes, the Indian and Bangladeshi idiots in jail but not a single Jewish one although they rule Wall Street


Come on

and, Huxley , I reiterate my first post in response to your post .. yes, it is good idea to put quota on Jewish this and that, to not reach the critical mass for things of sort of what is happening in Wall Street and Holly Wood .. now Congress and Senate is controlled by Zionist interest, and, you see what is the result, Chuck, an America hero is denied to save America




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Consider how many Jews take offense when a non-Jew makes an obvious, noncontroversial statement like "The movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews." (Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League would prefer that we say "All eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish"!)

The sensitivity, the concerns about being singled out - and envied, and blamed - are completely understandable. But America is hardly teetering on the brink of a pogrom. Jews have ascended to the commanding heights of American business, finance, politics, and intellectual life. In effect, they have assumed a leadership role somewhat analogous to that once held by the WASPs. It's a great, all-American success story. Yet most Jews are extremely reluctant to acknowledge that fact. The topic is almost verboten.

Perhaps it's time for Jews to acknowledge publicly - and allow others to acknowledge - their disproportionate status as wealthy, privileged elites. The WASPs certainly did.

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I will answer your above post despite running the danger of being called names :

Do we resent or envy "Claude Monet, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Camille Pissarro and Alfred Sisley" ? ?

Do we resent or envy "Frédéric Chopin, Bethoven, Bach" ? ?

Do we resent or envy "Einstein, Oppenheimer, Bohr"

No , we don't

Why, not ? ?

because they fairly earned it

Not so those folks in Holly-Wood and Wall Street .. or those bankers in Germany and Britain and Paris and New York that became filthy rich and in the process ruined Germany and Poland and America

Issue with Jews in Wall Street and Holly-wood is things not fair .. Is Paul Volker a singularity in WASP world, there is no other than Greenspan and Bernanke in other ethinics ? same with Summers and Rubin and and and

1930, 95% of Lawyers in Berlin were Jewish, head of law faculty and all professors Jewish .. would mean Germans had 2B idiots and could not make the law school

Same thing applies to WASP .. old boys club mentality

Excuse that WASP or Catholics (or Muslim might) do same thing does not only justifies but also confirms the point here

Technology has eliminated barriers worldwide, world is now ONE village, talent in the future will be Indian, Iranian, Chinese, Brazilian, Jewish, Polish, German and and and .. AND .. that requires equals opportunities must prevail for any athnicity, old boys club is out of the window .. now, Iranian films are praised, showing there is another side to the rubbish movies produced by Holly Wood to manufacture sentiment and brainwash American Joe with garbage, which mostly are glorifying Zionism and belitteling and putting down Iran (Holly Wood has produced 5 major anti Iran movies last 5 yrs faking history and facts) and Muslims and Arabs (same was done to Chinese when cold war) .. and .. Holly wood was and is a sentiment manufacturing within the establishment .. look how many Iranian movie producers are in jail or have escaped Iran, versus of nobody banned or escaped in Holly Wood (showing they tools of the establishment and Zionist), when Holly-Wood did not fall in line (Communism, Charley Chaplin, Arthur Miller and and) we saw what happened (Chaplin and Garbo and others had to leave America) .. now Hillary darling of those special interests .. Oliver Stone and others sidelined .. same thing happening in Wall Street, all those hedge fund CEO making billions with inside info, FED, SEC and everybody else knows this, Medoff just had an interview and confirmed this, but, not a single one in jail, yes, the Indian and Bangladeshi idiots in jail but not a single Jewish one although they rule Wall Street


Come on

and, Huxley , I reiterate my first post in response to your post .. yes, it is good idea to put quota on Jewish this and that, to not reach the critical mass for things of sort of what is happening in Wall Street and Holly Wood .. now Congress and Senate is controlled by Zionist interest, and, you see what is the result, Chuck, an America hero is denied to save America

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Would like to add, I am for quota for any ethnicity, Muslim, Hindu, Iranian, Chinese, Jewish and and and if that ethnicity has a "old boys club" mindset, ganging, grouping, misusing the critical mass to gain an unfair "competitive advantage" for "special interest" .. imagine being 2% of German population but 70% of German judges :lol: (now similar situation in American supreme court judges)

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I think this post belonged to where it was posted as it was in response to "Huxley" post


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Britain has institutionalized pedophilia, child abuse


what a disaster .. what a disaster


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Hoosiernorm wrote:.

Yeah It's on my end. Now having difficulty with programs not responding and something keeps turning off the McAfee real time scanning and disabling my firewall. Currently doing a cloud back up with Carbonite to try and get as many of my pictures, music and other files backed up before the hard drive takes a complete crap on me. Will back it all up and then do a full restore on the system and if that doesn't do it then it's off to Staples to have a Tech check it out for me. The last computer I had before this one did a lot of the same things before it became so hard to operate that it was unusable. It had a hard drive that just gave out on it. Not sure if I will get a new system or just try to install a new hard drive.

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Hmmm , Hoosi

could be you under "surveillance" .. somebody, probably Zionist, installed Stuxnet on your PC recording everything you type :lol:

I, last 20 yrs, visit the weirdest places, and, never run any virus protection and uninstall, day one, any anti virus stuff on each computer I buy

everything runs smoooothly


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If you can't get the hint with humour, then this where such posts go.

Broad brush stereotyping of any group is poor form.
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It's one thing to post the link, the man said what he said, no problem with that.

It's another thing to go on the way you do.

You want to go on about "M*she", then fine, you can do so here.
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:lol: :lol: Thanks!

but he didn't say anything about MMGW...... so how can we believe anything he said?

video sponsored by Al gore?.... or the Bilderbergers?
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