Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:59 pm
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EU PLOT TO SCRAP BRITAIN
Friday May 4,2012
By Macer Hall
SENIOR Eurocrats are secretly plotting to create a super-powerful EU president to realise their dream of abolishing Britain and other nation states, the Daily Express can reveal.
A covert group of EU foreign ministers has drawn up plans for merging the jobs currently done by Herman Van Rompuy, president of the European Council, and Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission.
The new bureaucrat, who would not be directly elected by voters, is set to get sweeping control over the entire EU and force member countries into ever-greater political and economic union. Tellingly, the UK has been excluded from the confidential discussions within the shady “Berlin Group” of Europhile politicians, spearheaded by German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle.
Opponents fear the plan could create a modern-day equivalent of the European emperor envisaged by Napoleon Bonaparte or a return to the Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne that dominated Europe in the Dark Ages. They are concerned that David Cameron’s coalition Government is doing nothing to prevent the sinister plot. The secret talks were uncovered by Independent Labour peer Lord Stoddart of Swindon.
“This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” he said. “The whole thing is barmy. These people are determined to achieve their final objective.
“The only hope for Britain is to leave the EU and become an independent nation.”
The move will give further momentum to the Daily Express’s hugely popular crusade for Britain’s withdrawal from the EU.
Tory backbench MP Douglas Carswell said: “It doesn’t matter how you arrange the offices of these technocrats, they are useless at arranging our lives for us and they are not elected so they have no legitimacy.
“My worry is that the president will end up having the charisma of Van Rompuy and the economic management skills of Barroso.”
Euro-MP Paul Nuttall, of the UK Independence Party, said: “This is a truly ridiculous idea that must never be allowed to happen. It sounds as if they are trying to go back to the days of the Holy Roman Emperor.”
At present, the two senior EU bureaucrats, Mr Barroso and Mr Van Rompuy, are locked in a bitter power struggle to determine who is the true big cheese or “grand fromage” in Europe. Former Portuguese premier Mr Barroso, who heads the EU’s executive arm and was elected to his post by members of the European Union, is understood to resent the rival fiefdom of Belgian Mr Van Rompuy, who was chosen by the heads of government of EU member states to represent them.
Under the plan, a single figure would be elected by Euro-MPs to perform both roles.
Supporters of the move believe that the rival presidencies are undermining the EU’s ability to speak with a single voice. They argue that merging the two jobs will create a powerful European leader who is capable of pursuing the federalist dream of a united Europe which has been severely shaken by the eurozone crisis.
Lord Stoddart confirmed the existence of the plot thanks to a parliamentary written answer in the House of Lords. He asked Foreign Office ministers to reveal what they knew about the merger talks.
In response to his inquiry, Tory Foreign Office minister Lord Howell of Guildford said: “We are aware of one group of EU foreign ministers meeting on an informal basis to discuss a variety of issues related to the future governance of the EU.
“While the UK is not part of that group, we understand that one idea under discussion is a merger of the positions of president of the European Council and president of the European Commission.”
Lord Howell added: “A merger of the two presidencies would create a potential conflict of interest, undermine the quality of the EU’s decision-making processes and upset the institutional balance within the EU.” Lord Stoddart said: “These sorts of informal discussions within the EU have a habit of rapidly being transferred into formal proposals.
“Since the Government is not party to these discussions, its reservations are academic.
“Such a merger would represent a massive shift of power into the hands of a single, unelected bureaucrat. The Government should be taking this far more seriously and voicing its objections very strongly.”
He added: “The holder of this new office would be both Europe’s political and administrative leader, giving them far more powers than those given to the US president.
“It really is a great disappointment that we have a Conservative-led Government that is supposed to be Eurosceptic yet ministers just go along with this.”
Let's say some malevolent group -- the government, powerful corporations, extraterrestrials -- really is trying to read and/or control your thoughts with radio waves. Would the preferred headgear of the paranoid, a foil helmet, really keep The Man and alien overlords out of our brains?
The scientific reasoning behind the foil helmet is that it acts as a Faraday cage, an enclosure made up of a conducting material that shields its interior from external electrostatic charges and electromagnetic radiation by distributing them around its exterior and dissipating them. While sometimes these enclosures are actual cages, they come in many forms, and most of us have probably dealt with one type or another. Elevators, the scan rooms that MRI machines sit in, "booster bags" that shoplifters sometimes use to circumvent electronic security tags, cables like USB or TV coaxial cables, and even the typical household microwave all provide shielding as Faraday cages.
Parodite wrote:.Maybe you should just try live more with facts instead of floating around on a carpet talking to yourself. Strange things happened at 9/11 but there is no beyond reasonable doubt proof established by an independent investigation of what exactly happened, if there is missing information; just conspiracy theories plenty.Jnalum Persicum wrote:.
Now that it is clear that neither Iraq nor Afghanistan, let alone neither Iraqi or Afghani population had anything to do with 9/11 (an inside Job)
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Where you get those statistics from?Jnalum Persicum wrote:Look, Raphsy
Now, pretty much, 80% of Europeans , 80% of world population .. and .. more than 1 in 2 American say 9/11 was an inside job
All this guy is saying is that presidents who want to go to war will try to wait for something to happen that the enemy does (to sell going to war to the public no doubt), and that via covert actions the pressure can be made bigger so that the enemy will do more likely the type of thing you are waiting for.. He is not even talking about 100% false flags, although he may suggest at it.Watch this , he clearly says America does this kind of stunts to start wars
I have read those statistics many many times, in reputable papersParodite wrote:.Where you get those statistics from ?Jnalum Persicum wrote:.
Look, Raphsy
Now, pretty much, 80% of Europeans , 80% of world population .. and .. more than 1 in 2 American say 9/11 was an inside job
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This is a small section of a longer clip that I posted .. he clearly suggest a "false flag" catastrophe needed to start the war with Iran .. he stipulates those things that pushed America into those wars he pointing to were "false flag" or orchestrated or intentionalParodite wrote:.All this guy is saying is that presidents who want to go to war will try to wait for something to happen that the enemy does (to sell going to war to the public no doubt), and that via covert actions the pressure can be made bigger so that the enemy will do more likely the type of thing you are waiting for.. He is not even talking about 100% false flags, although he may suggest at it.Jnalum Persicum wrote:.
Watch this , he clearly says America does this kind of stunts to start wars
So again you come up with data and "proof" that is very bad evidence for anything you claim to be the case.
100% false flags have happened indeed, but not that often. Wars erupt much easier and usually don't need it. That 9/11 was a 100% false flag inside job by the US govt... there is no evidence for that at all at the moment. Not impossible theoretically, but no evidence. You just want it to be the case to justify your endless whining and complaining, build your imaginary cases against your "real enemy".
Dream on.
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BingoMiss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:l0l at the trouble people have at the mere idea that random people can just do some lavender and genuflect up things....XDDDDDDDD...........
Very interesting and entertaining; but this guy seems to be a bit of an anti-Japethite.
I knew I would find some Jewish/israelbashing somewhere in your post , ALI.Jnalum Persicum wrote:yBCxYicxTow
planctom wrote:.I knew I would find some Jewish/israelbashing somewhere in your post , ALI.Jnalum Persicum wrote:.
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tell me: Whatit´s got to do wth this thread?
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The World Health Organization has identified a new SARS-like virus that attacks people of Middle Eastern decent . .
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As silly as that website is, I wouldn't doubt for a second that customized bioweapons have been on the table or at least discussed; especially with a country as big as China.
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As silly as that website is, I wouldn't doubt for a second that customized bioweapons have been on the table or at least discussed; especially with a country as big as China.
But the logistics of controlling a virus like that seems so remote or difficult, who would even try to pull such a thing off?
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absolutely, provided you can accept a certain level of friendly fire then pretty much anything is possible with current tech or near future tech.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:As silly as that website is, I wouldn't doubt for a second that customized bioweapons have been on the table or at least discussed; especially with a country as big as China.
But the logistics of controlling a virus like that seems so remote or difficult, who would even try to pull such a thing off?
Yeah, genuflect it mate. Let's go to the pub.noddy wrote:absolutely, provided you can accept a certain level of friendly fire then pretty much anything is possible with current tech or near future tech.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:As silly as that website is, I wouldn't doubt for a second that customized bioweapons have been on the table or at least discussed; especially with a country as big as China.
But the logistics of controlling a virus like that seems so remote or difficult, who would even try to pull such a thing off?
if your crazy and puritan enough then it only requires making sure the ones you do care about have the appropriate antidote and the targetting can be as sloppy as you like.
airborne sterilisation that the population doesnt even realise has happened until its too late is another common conspiracy meme
i wonder if being a muttley makes me more likely or less likely to be on the wrong side of a genetic specific virus .. hmm.. probably both depending on the specifics of the targetting.
however, the nature of mass globalised transport and the lack of antibodies we all have for other places diseases combined with the fact that variations do jump species and combine does make natural born killer virus's the more likely source.
plus the fact that after you have done something like that to a country the blowback is likely to be atomic and without mercy and its straight into M.A.D territory.
so worrying about it goes on the shelf next to atomic doomsdays and global climate meltdowns, ill have to shuffle random psychos along a bit to make room.