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“ We will make them [LGBT youth] normal.
We will have a center for them. Like Alcoholics Anonymous centers, we will have centers.
We will train them and give them medicines too ”



:lol:


How come nobody saying something ? ?

Poor Ahmadinejat said in Iran we do not have "Drag Queens" and the hell broke lose, still ridiculing

Attacking and killing gays in India daily affair .. attacking, raping woman even not prosecuted

And ? ?

Callin India "greatest Democracy" either not knowing India or not knowing democracy

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nobody is saying anything because its not actually a real policy, just the ranting of one durian old man and every country in the world has a couple of old man politicians saying somethign stupid.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 879406.cms
Goa's BJP chief minister Laxmikant Parsekar on Tuesday tried to defend his ministerial colleague Ramesh Tawadkar, who triggered widespread outrage by calling homosexuality a "problem that needed treatment". Parsekar said, "It (homosexuality) is not a disease but a natural thing - an inborn quality."

Responding to questions, Parsekar then added, "There's no cure for homosexuality and the government has no policy for 'normalizing' LGBTs."
Tawadkar on Tuesday blamed the media for the controversy and claimed he was "talking about alcoholics" and not the gay community. "I was misquoted and misunderstood. The media is creating a controversy," he told TV channels.
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its watching india that makes me so strictly free pro free speech.

so much can be swatted down for so many reasons once government officials start protecting the peace.
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‘India should protect humans, not just cows’:
Cardinal after elderly nun gang-rape


“The country has a responsibility towards all of us – every human being – and not just cows,” said Cardinal Baselios Cleemis, the head of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India.

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The cardinal said that he was speaking as a “citizen of India” adding that “it is the duty of the government to protect those engaged in nation-building activities and religious groups of all kinds. That is what has been special about India so far, the country and this culture. That has to be protected,” he was quoted as saying by local media.

The Saturday rape sparked protests on city streets and in parliament. It is one of the latest in a series of incidents reflecting the country’s growing number of rapes over the past several years. One of the worst was the 2012 brutal gang-rape of a 23-year-old woman who subsequently died of her injuries. Following a wide public outcry in response to the incident, the country’s parliament rushed a law doubling prison terms for rapists to 20 years.

However in just one year, between 2012 and 2013, rape figures increased by more than a quarter to more than 33,700 sex crimes, according to the National Crime Records Bureau. In 2014, the number of reported rapes in Delhi alone exceeded 2,060.


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Meanwhile, on Tuesday, the parliament of Haryana state in northern India passed a law banning the slaughter of cows and sale of beef. It imposes both a fine up to 100,000 rupees (over $1,500) and an imprisonment term ranging from three years to 10 years for killing the sacred animal. It also intends to promote the conservation and development of indigenous breeds of cows and establish special institutions and sanctuaries to take care of infirm, injured, stray and uneconomic cows.

The adoption of the law follows the example of the western Maharashtra state which since the beginning of March has started handing out a five year prison term for cow slaughter.


makes sense :lol:


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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.


‘India should protect humans, not just cows’:
Cardinal after elderly nun gang-rape


“The country has a responsibility towards all of us – every human being – and not just cows,” said Cardinal Baselios Cleemis, the head of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India.

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The cardinal said that he was speaking as a “citizen of India” adding that “it is the duty of the government to protect those engaged in nation-building activities and religious groups of all kinds. That is what has been special about India so far, the country and this culture. That has to be protected,” he was quoted as saying by local media.

The Saturday rape sparked protests on city streets and in parliament. It is one of the latest in a series of incidents reflecting the country’s growing number of rapes over the past several years. One of the worst was the 2012 brutal gang-rape of a 23-year-old woman who subsequently died of her injuries. Following a wide public outcry in response to the incident, the country’s parliament rushed a law doubling prison terms for rapists to 20 years.

However in just one year, between 2012 and 2013, rape figures increased by more than a quarter to more than 33,700 sex crimes, according to the National Crime Records Bureau. In 2014, the number of reported rapes in Delhi alone exceeded 2,060.


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Meanwhile, on Tuesday, the parliament of Haryana state in northern India passed a law banning the slaughter of cows and sale of beef. It imposes both a fine up to 100,000 rupees (over $1,500) and an imprisonment term ranging from three years to 10 years for killing the sacred animal. It also intends to promote the conservation and development of indigenous breeds of cows and establish special institutions and sanctuaries to take care of infirm, injured, stray and uneconomic cows.

The adoption of the law follows the example of the western Maharashtra state which since the beginning of March has started handing out a five year prison term for cow slaughter.


makes sense :lol:


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I actually believe they in fact had wanted to pass such a law to protect asses, not cows, as a measure of self preservation... :D
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i think in the west the order of seriousness of punishment is

a) tax evasion
b) killing whales
c) general murder
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arranged marriage


a matter of tradition, culture and civilization

jury still out whether couple more happy, less divorce, by arranged or self chosen partner

marriage is more than just girlfriend/boyfriend .. much more must fit

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

arranged marriage


a matter of tradition, culture and civilization

jury still out whether couple more happy, less divorce, by arranged or self chosen partner

marriage is more than just girlfriend/boyfriend .. much more must fit

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Most marriages end in divorce because people marry by mistaking passion for love... In arranged marriages there are no illusions and thus marriage may endure longer. As long as the matchmakers take care to pair people who are socially and culturally compatible with each other...
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Endovelico wrote:
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

arranged marriage


a matter of tradition, culture and civilization

jury still out whether couple more happy, less divorce, by arranged or self chosen partner

marriage is more than just girlfriend/boyfriend .. much more must fit

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Most marriages end in divorce because people marry by mistaking passion for love... In arranged marriages there are no illusions and thus marriage may endure longer. As long as the matchmakers take care to pair people who are socially and culturally compatible with each other...
Odds are against any marriage surviving without divine help in overcoming human obstacles to committment and trust.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:Odds are against any marriage surviving without divine help in overcoming human obstacles to committment and trust.
I often wonder how my wife and I, both secular to the bone, survived each other this long already.
Deep down I'm very superficial
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Parodite wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Odds are against any marriage surviving without divine help in overcoming human obstacles to committment and trust.
I often wonder how my wife and I, both secular to the bone, survived each other this long already.
I suppose it is because you spend so much time posting on this board... Or is it because all your bad moods are directed at Putin?... :D
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Endovelico wrote:
Parodite wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Odds are against any marriage surviving without divine help in overcoming human obstacles to commitment and trust.
I often wonder how my wife and I, both secular to the bone, survived each other this long already.
I suppose it is because you spend so much time posting on this board... Or is it because all your bad moods are directed at Putin ?... :D

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Yes, Parodite lets steam here, fora a "therapy" for him, better than taking "Prozac" :lol:

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Heracleum Persicum wrote:
Endovelico wrote:
Parodite wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Odds are against any marriage surviving without divine help in overcoming human obstacles to commitment and trust.
I often wonder how my wife and I, both secular to the bone, survived each other this long already.
I suppose it is because you spend so much time posting on this board... Or is it because all your bad moods are directed at Putin ?... :D

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Yes, Parodite lets steam here, fora a "therapy" for him, better than taking "Prozac" :lol:

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I suggest a date night for the Parodites with linguini alla Putin-esca. Toss fresh linguini w/ garlic butter, truffles and Caspian caviar.
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Guys, I'm fine and so is my wife. Just wondered how we managed without divine support :D As the specialist in this field I will follow Nonc's suggestion though.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

A young woman in her teens allegedly harassed by a man tracked him down and gave him a thorough beating in public before the case was handed over to the police.

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India, Oh India... That is one country that I don't have on my bucket list as a place to visit. I still wonder what some of the flower children of the 1960s were thinking of when they went were on pilgrimages to India to learn about the deeper meaning of life? There is nothing about the country, its beliefs or culture that appeals to me.
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Uche Americanus wrote:.

India, Oh India... That is one country that I don't have on my bucket list as a place to visit. I still wonder what some of the flower children of the 1960s were thinking of when they went were on pilgrimages to India to learn about the deeper meaning of life? There is nothing about the country, its beliefs or culture that appeals to me.

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Right @ the money, Uche, right @ the money

Said many times, that place mother of all ZOOOOOOZ's

Flower Children in 1960's were skin deep, no rocket scientists .. they followed RashNiShi instead of Georg W. Hegel

" In Persia first arises that light which shines itself and illuminates what is around "




PERSIA

Hegel considered Persia to be the first empire of his philosophy, because Persia had a law that governed the ruler as well as the subjects. Persia was a theocratic monarchy, which meant that society’s rules were based on principles (the religion of Zoroaster) and even the ruler was subject to those principles, though he was an absolute ruler and the only free man in the empire. To Hegel, this was the first instance of Spirit (“Geist”) in world history. Hegel thought that rule based on an intellectual or spiritual principle was the beginning of the “consciousness of freedom.”

The next great step in history, according to Hegel, was the Battle at Salamis. When the Persian Empire came into contact with the Greek city-states, the emperor asked the Greeks to say that he was supreme, but they wouldn’t, so he gathered his armies and they met at Salamis. This was a battle between an absolute emperor (Xerxes) and separate city-states who recognized free individuality. (It was portrayed in the movie 300: Rise of an Empire.) When the Greeks won, that meant that world history moved from absolute Oriental rule to the realm of the city-state.

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IMVVHO, the Macedonian Alexander beating the Persian, was the beginning of the "dark ages in human history" .. the beast won over "Humanität" .. humanity still paying for that



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the irony being that the durian hippies who wanted the indian zoo of chaos are the ones that wanted the Pomegranates and opened up the immigration laws from being just the white and christian.
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noddy wrote:the irony being that the durian hippies who wanted the indian zoo of chaos are the ones that wanted the Pomegranates and opened up the immigration laws from being just the white and christian.

True, noddy, true

But, thinking was skip deep, they did not think further than make love and not war .. did not think putting aside "White Only" immigration policy and letting "OTHERS" too to participate in settling other people's lands demands also accepting (and not only "tolerating") other people's culture and civilization .. Notion you become like we testament of skip deep.



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Mindset is, Sean Spicer, saying to that American (Indian decent) "be happy we tolerate you here" testament of above

Noddy, Sufism "multi level" .. the more you absorb, the higher you climb in Sufism .. still in basement.


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Heracleum,

I will definitest take the Persian culture over the Hindu one. There is so much dark energy and bleakness surrendering the Hindus than any other culture or people I have been exposed to. A friend of mine just returned from a business trip to New Delhi. He said that he hopes that he never goes there again. The stench of the place, according to him was the most fetid he ever smelt in all his life up to then and the people are inhospitable to everyone including their neighbors unless they see a way to fleece or take advantage of them. He told me that children accosted him each time he gets out of a cab, begging for alms. That things got so bad that he started shooing them away instead of just ignoring them. As he was telling these things I found my self thinking how loony the West must be to think that it can set up India as a counter-weight to China. It is not possible. India is a dysfunctional country and a morally damaged enterprise. I have often thought that if given the choice to be a peasant farmer in Africa, India or China that I will choose Africa. A peasant farmer in Africa has more dignity and privilege than his or her counterpart in India or in China. The same goes for

As for the Hegel quote on Persia, I have no opinion and I don't have any respect for Hegel as either a person or a philosopher. He was the champion of the false belief that became popular in Europe and elsewhere in the 19th century, that Africans had no history. Imagine that sort of grand ignorance emanating from one of the leading German thinkers.
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blowing your own trumpet is a huge part of humanity.
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IEEE Spec | India. Number 1? Or number 2?
China gets all the attention, but there’s another big Asian country that’s making gigantic strides.
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May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
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