Multi-national social credit scores

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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:31 am
noddy wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:35 am its always hard to have a proper sense of what was really going on x-hundred years ago but ive always felt that "seperation of powers/institutions" was perhaps more real for them than it is for me.

old money lords, royalty and the church, new money traders and industrialists, merchant bankers, ... all seemed more viable as proper separate power bases.

now we have the masses and a revolving door of powermongers across governments and corporates all from the same suburbs and schools.

we have folks here who have been merchant bankers, corporate ceo's and then prime ministers.
Yes, but isn't that a whole other topic, one from even longer before the world wars?
i was musing on the fact that government/central bank/national credit office arent really "different" in any meaningful way to me.

so the only real point of contention is

>>Minimum income doesn't address the distributionists' concerns over ownership and socialization.

and again, im not sure I can see a difference - some money enters our system because of FIRE economy madness on housing debts, the rest of it is government debt via money printing , so all thats being suggested is that the government debt is being ignored.

so same lavender as now really :)
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I will take your contention to heart and inform Mr.Belloc by jumping into my time machine and meeting him before the year 1912. :)

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The distributionists are (generally) well-meaning eccentrics, maybe more so today than even yesteryear. I think Hilare Belloc and G.K. Chesterton were great writers but the keyword is writer and their system that other people have constructed in their head, is most appealing to people either in or attracted to the word-merchant business.

In other words, lots of impractical people. And they miss the big picture points from the two authors:

1. Is ownership or the possibility of ownership spread as far and wide as it could possibly be?

2. Is decision-making done on as low of a level as it could possibly be?

As hard it would be to put an argument forward that it is the case now; it shall be even harder under the all-knowing but never understanding AI.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:10 am
In other words, lots of impractical people. And they miss the big picture points from the two authors:

1. Is ownership or the possibility of ownership spread as far and wide as it could possibly be?

2. Is decision-making done on as low of a level as it could possibly be?

As hard it would be to put an argument forward that it is the case now; it shall be even harder under the all-knowing but never understanding AI.
thats definately another thread for another day - the only place that strikes me as having succeeded at 90% home ownership is the opposite of low level decision making or even socialism.

singapore.
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A city-state seems kinda low-level with grander schemes around. :)
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