Typhoon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:02 pm
Heracleum Persicum wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:22 pm
Mr. Perfect wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:29 pm
Periodic reminder, if you feel strongly about Putin invading Ukraine they are accepting volunteer soldiers and you can go to the front lines and really give the Russians a piece of your mind.
Or in case you have some massive physical impairment, the only reason you could justify not volunteering, you can always send a lot of money. At the link below. If you need more ideas let me know.
Look , Ukraine a bottomless pit with money, black hole .. West knows this therefore sends only weapon , no cash
Chinese send food, medication, goods
Poor Ukraine children
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If you were actually concerned about the "poor Ukrainian children" you would be against Putin's invasion of Ukraine,
not spending time trying to justify the unjustifiable.
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If Putin would have not entered Ukraine, Ukraine would have become a member of NATO and down the road lead to a much bigger clash, most probably nuclear
This was a "real" preventive action (not a fake one as US did with Saddam's WMD)
Yes, many civilian casualties, but probably much less if things had not been stopped at this stage
And,
It would be dishonest to ourselves if we don't look at what
" US Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III " said on Monday :
NYT
Behind Austin’s Call for a ‘Weakened’ Russia,
Hints of a Shift
WASHINGTON — When Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III declared Monday at the end of a stealth visit to Ukraine that America’s goal is to see Russia so “weakened” that it would no longer have the power to invade a neighboring state, he was acknowledging a transformation of the conflict, from a battle over control of Ukraine to one that pits Washington more directly against Moscow.
President Biden entered the war insistent that he did not want to make this a contest between the United States and Russia. Rather, he was simply helping a small, struggling democracy defend itself against takeover by a far more powerful neighbor. “Direct confrontation between NATO and Russia is World War III, something we must strive to prevent,” he said in early March, just two weeks into the war.
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Basically saying, from the begin, the idea was to use Ukraine as proxy to weaken Russia .. Didn't care how Ukraine civilians would suffer
Meaning :
Ukraine just a tool, means, to try to weaken Russia .. if Russia had not attacked Ukraine, US/West would find another venue to start war with Russia, to "weaken Russia" as Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III openly said
To weaken Russia so that Russia can not help China if and when BANG comes with China.
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