Ukraine

[Doc]

The number of Nazis in the UKR military are probably proportionally similar to those in the US military. And yes, full support indeed, less the people who fled, killed, and intimidated into keeping their mouths shut.

But far fewer Nazis than in the Democratic party.

[Zack Morris]

The Democratic congress pleaded with Trump to remove the Azov nazis. I posted the letter earlier. The Azov are the same families who pushed Poles into the concentration camps. Everybody buy you know this.

There are lots of Nazis in Poland, too. And in Russia. Everywhere you go in Eastern Europe you'll encounter skinhead hooligans who like swastikas. You'll also find loads of them in Idaho. Probably more than in Eastern Europe.

That entire area voted for the Russian Porochenko. When Porochenko won, he refused to take out an IMF loan. That is when Nuland conducted her coup and overthrew the legitimate Ukranian government.

What are you even talking about? Poroshenko came to power after a grass roots revolution aimed at toppling the hopelessly corrupt pro-Russian puppet, Yanukovych. Like everyone else in the region, Ukrainians largely wanted to strengthen their ties to the West, to be seen as a modern European country. No conspiracies necessary, if you understand anything about the region and its people. Everyone hates the Russians with every fiber of their being.

Nobody cares about IMF loans and poor countries reject IMF plans all the time. Just waiting for you to bring the Rothschilds into this next.

The referendum on Russian control of the region was supervised with no incidents - unlike Wisconsin, Arizona, Philadelphia, Atlanta &c.

Lol. That's because there weren't any treasonous GOP operatives in the Donbas trying to tamper with voting machines or convene shadow electors.

[Doc]

The Democratic congress pleaded with Trump to remove the Azov nazis. I posted the letter earlier. The Azov are the same families who pushed Poles into the concentration camps. Everybody buy you know this.

There are lots of Nazis in Poland, too. And in Russia. Everywhere you go in Eastern Europe you'll encounter skinhead hooligans who like swastikas. You'll also find loads of them in Idaho. Probably more than in Eastern Europe.

That entire area voted for the Russian Porochenko. When Porochenko won, he refused to take out an IMF loan. That is when Nuland conducted her coup and overthrew the legitimate Ukranian government.

What are you even talking about? Poroshenko came to power after a grass roots revolution aimed at toppling the hopelessly corrupt pro-Russian puppet, Yanukovych. Like everyone else in the region, Ukrainians largely wanted to strengthen their ties to the West, to be seen as a modern European country. No conspiracies necessary, if you understand anything about the region and its people. Everyone hates the Russians with every fiber of their being.

While I agree about Nazis in Ukraine. There is even a video I think I posted here of Nazis in the Russian Parliament, giving a Nazi salute. That is BS about everyone hating Russians Zack. There are a great number of inter marriages. Nazis generally people that think they know better.

Nobody cares about IMF loans and poor countries reject IMF plans all the time. Just waiting for you to bring the Rothschilds into this next.

Nuland is a bad actor. A representative for the Military industrial complex.

The referendum on Russian control of the region was supervised with no incidents - unlike Wisconsin, Arizona, Philadelphia, Atlanta &c.

Lol. That's because there weren't any treasonous GOP operatives in the Donbas trying to tamper with voting machines or convene shadow electors.
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Keep talking Zack and know when "they" come for you, there will be no one to speak for you.

NATO is saying that Putin has deployed his tsunami bomb. You know the autonomous sub with a Czar bomba on board that can cause a Tsunami 1,000 feet high? If Putin sets it off I wonder how many will be left to say "I loved NY"?

[Doc]

The number of Nazis in the UKR military are probably proportionally similar to those in the US military. And yes, full support indeed, less the people who fled, killed, and intimidated into keeping their mouths shut.

The Democratic congress pleaded with Trump to remove the Azov nazis. I posted the letter earlier. The Azov are the same families who pushed Poles into the concentration camps. Everybody buy you know this.

That entire area voted for the Russian Porochenko. When Porochenko won, he refused to take out an IMF loan. That is when Nuland conducted her coup and overthrew the legitimate Ukranian government.

The referendum on Russian control of the region was supervised with no incidents - unlike Wisconsin, Arizona, Philadelphia, Atlanta &c.

Ukrainians, during the Stalin run Holodomor, literally killed some of their children so the others would have something to eat to survive. What was it the Nazis did again that was so bad?

[Heracleum Persicum]

There is still Odessa.

Yes, Odessa next 2B taken by Russians

The rest of ex Ukraine not worth much, bottomless pit for West

America fought in Afghanistan, Iraq not knowing what America fighting for

Russia, Putin's aim was to bring back the historical Russian provinces back to mother Russia

After Odessa , Russia achieves it's objectives.
.

[Nonc Hilaire]

Stalin was a Bolshevik from Georgia/Khazaria. Not a Russian. The Bolsheviks overthrew the Russian government, then they ran three holodomors to starve out the Ukraine.

The Ukraine was a Nazi stronghold, and the Ukrainian Nazis are the ones Stalin hired to do the work.

It’s not that different from today. The deep state communists/globalists, via Neuland and CIAramella, overthrew the legitimate Ukranian government and installed Zalensky - a WEF figurehead - to destroy the nationalistic Ukrainians.

[Nonc Hilaire]

There is still Odessa.

Yes, Odessa next 2B taken by Russians

The rest of ex Ukraine not worth much, bottomless pit for West

America fought in Afghanistan, Iraq not knowing what America fighting for

Russia, Putin's aim was to bring back the historical Russian provinces back to mother Russia

After Odessa , Russia achieves it's objectives.
.

My armchair analysis.

The WEF has demonstrated an inability to mobilize. They cannot reposition their forces quickly.

Russia has destroyed a lot of their logistics. Bad has become worse for them.

Odessa is obviously the prize. If the WEF was to be drawn into a tar baby trap in the Northeast then Russia would have an easier time at Odessa.

[Typhoon]

Stalin was a Bolshevik from Georgia/Khazaria. Not a Russian. The Bolsheviks overthrew the Russian government, then they ran three holodomors to starve out the Ukraine.

The Ukraine was a Nazi stronghold, and the Ukrainian Nazis are the ones Stalin hired to do the work.

Not even wrong.

Offensively so.

It’s not that different from today. The deep state communists/globalists, via Neuland and CIAramella, overthrew the legitimate Ukranian government and installed Zalensky - a WEF figurehead - to destroy the nationalistic Ukrainians.

Nope.

[Typhoon]

There is still Odessa.

Yes, Odessa next 2B taken by Russians

The rest of ex Ukraine not worth much, bottomless pit for West

America fought in Afghanistan, Iraq not knowing what America fighting for

Russia, Putin's aim was to bring back the historical Russian provinces back to mother Russia

After Odessa , Russia achieves it's objectives.
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[Doc]

There is still Odessa.

Yes, Odessa next 2B taken by Russians

The rest of ex Ukraine not worth much, bottomless pit for West

America fought in Afghanistan, Iraq not knowing what America fighting for

Russia, Putin's aim was to bring back the historical Russian provinces back to mother Russia

After Odessa , Russia achieves it's objectives.
.

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Technically Russia originally was ruled from Kyiv so it should be Ukraine bringing back its historical provinces to mother Ukraine.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Latest from Jacques Baud, Swiss intelligence analyst, military officer, intelligence and terrorism expert

TP: It is commonly said in the West that this war has “proven” that the Russian army is feeble and that its equipment is useless. Are these assertions true?

JB: No. After more than six months of war, it can be said that the Russian army is effective and efficient, and that the quality of its command & control far exceeds what we see in the West.

[Doc]

Stalin was a Bolshevik from Georgia/Khazaria. Not a Russian. The Bolsheviks overthrew the Russian government, then they ran three holodomors to starve out the Ukraine.

The Ukraine was a Nazi stronghold, and the Ukrainian Nazis are the ones Stalin hired to do the work.

Stalin at the time of the holodomors did not give a damn about the Nazis as they at that time did not run any governments. Stalin wanted collective farms in Ukraine. Ukrainian farmers did not agree with that. When the Nazis invaded the Ukrainians saw them as their liberators. Stalin was actually more brutal than the Nazis and murdered 10's of millions people more than Hitler did. Besides that there was not all that much difference between the two of them They were both genocidally socialist monsters. But Stalin murder far more people:


Even in Lithuania when Germany invaded and displaced the Soviets' the Nazi were regarded as liberators at first. Even among that countries large population of Jews. One of the largest if not the largest outside of the ME at that time. Then they were all disabused of that notion.

It’s not that different from today. The deep state communists/globalists, via Neuland and CIAramella, overthrew the legitimate Ukranian government and installed Zalensky - a WEF figurehead - to destroy the nationalistic Ukrainians.

There is little doubt that the WEF and the above mentioned US government officials instigated Ukraine's revolution against Putin's puppet government there. But the Ukrainian people were the ones to go out into the streets to remove it Not the I-diots of the ultra elite class who among many other things want to eliminate 7 billion "useless class" of people from the gene pool. As if they were some kinds of Gods(See sig line) If you don't understand that most of the serious troubles that are occurring on the planet can be easily attributed to them then you have not been paying attention to what those of the WEF have literally been openly saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59YKlP--PhU
59YKlP--PhU
Some other things that want
To have their lives extended to 180 years until technology has advanced to the point that their consciousness can be transferred to a computer.
A social credit system to help de-populate the planet.
Mass automation to cheaply replace human workers to supply them with what they need.
Possibly a nuclear war to speed thing along. (most of them are planning to ride out such a war in New Zealand It would be penultimate Irony if the Taupō super volcano blew it top some time real soon: https://www.newsweek.com/supervolcano-n ... el-1744812 ).

All the same Putin is nothing but a thug. So once again Ukraine is caught between a rock and a hard place.

I am not a fan of this war. Dumbass is a stupid place to blow up the world over. But at least we have a great view, and a chance to feel the power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBYZns9bd2o
ZBYZns9bd2o

For those of you that missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3edi2Wkr5YI
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[Parodite]

Ukraine isn't doing too bad to day compared to its closest neighbors.

[Parodite]

A scenario is emerging

Russia cannot win this war with conventional means and therefore must resort to nuclear rogue-threats. It will use Belarus as a nuclear launch pad to make a counter attack on Russia itself less obvious if things escalate.

If the Ukrainian successes keep piling up in the speed they do now, a nuclear who-blinks-first may arise earlier than expected. I give it two months max.

Putin may accept a land-for-peace deal, as long as he can keep Crimea and 80% of the dumbass region. But Ukraine will never accept such a deal: 1) they are now making great progress in reconquering territory, and 2) are convinced Putin will continue to terrorize Ukraine proper and war-for-more when he can later on. With or without the help of the West, they will continue fighting until their last man standing.

This may not mushroom into a full-scale WW3 though. But it is a Russia-vs-NATO war for sure. For those who pay attention, it has already started and is gaining steam.

Putin maneuvered himself into a corner without an exit available. Needing to make nuclear threats and start mobilizing Russian men who don’t want to kill Ukrainians, means that the initial “police operation to liberate Ukraine from its Nazis”, is now proven to be a complete failure.

In any scenario this is the end of Putin, question is how many he will take down with him.

NATO probably wants to exhaust Putin and his closest comrades, while making sure a nuclear escalation remains avoided. A cease fire is likely, maybe more than one to avoid the nuclear catastrophe in a who-blinks-first situation. But Putin’s Russia will never be allowed to succeed here.

More speculation: a civil revolt in Belarus once they realize they are being azz-fuckered by Putin and exposed as a launchpad for nukes. I suspect some Western NATO hawks are already in Belarus to twist arms and convince them to dump Vlad and choose for NATO.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Ukraine isn't doing too bad to day compared to its closest neighbors.

.. thanks

[Nonc Hilaire]

But it is a Russia-vs-NATO war for sure.

Not wrong, but I see it more as the WEF vs. the SCO. It’s a mistake to separate this particular theatre from the WEF’s ongoing genocide and borderless world serfdom projects.

[Parodite]

WEF=C02

I have seen no evidence of WEF being an actual control room of anything. Various elites rub egos there and convince each other they care a lot about the world, but other than that? Not really much in my estimation. All decisions that matter are made elsewhere, with many more variables and different forces at play that compete before the real chips fall. And nobody controls all the chips, nor know where they will fall…exactly.

This is a problem with complexity: many variables, non-linear mechanics, uncertainty. As with climate change, it is silly to obsess about C02. All we can do is make informed guesses, do some cost-benefit analysis before we decide things. Then observe the results and try to learn from it.

My (un)informed guess is that because you have come to conclude that all mainstream media info is propaganda and lies, nothing is what it appears to be. In the case of Ukraine, I personally don’t see much mystery there at all. The bulk of it is business as usual and local mechanics as to be expected. Ol’ school monkey town.

Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe, ducks walking and quacking like ducks, etc. Of course this war occurs in a wider context with more powers present that all interact. But beware of blaming the moon for the rain. (High tide-low tide is a moon crime clearly)

[Doc]

What Stalin's Russia was like,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaOwcYLGTMo

CaOwcYLGTMo

[Doc]

WEF=C02

I have seen no evidence of WEF being an actual control room of anything. Various elites rub egos there and convince each other they care a lot about the world, but other than that? Not really much in my estimation. All decisions that matter are made elsewhere, with many more variables and different forces at play that compete before the real chips fall. And nobody controls all the chips, nor know where they will fall…exactly.

This is a problem with complexity: many variables, non-linear mechanics, uncertainty. As with climate change, it is silly to obsess about C02. All we can do is make informed guesses, do some cost-benefit analysis before we decide things. Then observe the results and try to learn from it.

My (un)informed guess is that because you have come to conclude that all mainstream media info is propaganda and lies, nothing is what it appears to be. In the case of Ukraine, I personally don’t see much mystery there at all. The bulk of it is business as usual and local mechanics as to be expected. Ol’ school monkey town.

Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe, ducks walking and quacking like ducks, etc. Of course this war occurs in a wider context with more powers present that all interact. But beware of blaming the moon for the rain. (High tide-low tide is a moon crime clearly)

"We own the science"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwEv_rluhw

9IwEv_rluhw

[Doc]

WEF=C02

I have seen no evidence of WEF being an actual control room of anything. Various elites rub egos there and convince each other they care a lot about the world, but other than that? Not really much in my estimation. All decisions that matter are made elsewhere, with many more variables and different forces at play that compete before the real chips fall. And nobody controls all the chips, nor know where they will fall…exactly.

This is a problem with complexity: many variables, non-linear mechanics, uncertainty. As with climate change, it is silly to obsess about C02. All we can do is make informed guesses, do some cost-benefit analysis before we decide things. Then observe the results and try to learn from it.

My (un)informed guess is that because you have come to conclude that all mainstream media info is propaganda and lies, nothing is what it appears to be. In the case of Ukraine, I personally don’t see much mystery there at all. The bulk of it is business as usual and local mechanics as to be expected. Ol’ school monkey town.

Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe, ducks walking and quacking like ducks, etc. Of course this war occurs in a wider context with more powers present that all interact. But beware of blaming the moon for the rain. (High tide-low tide is a moon crime clearly)

"We own the science"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwEv_rluhw

9IwEv_rluhw

BUT WAIT !! THERE IS MORE !!

Tying it all together Open borders. You will own nothing and we will be incredible rich and rule over you peasants. Mass poverty. Mass death. Eating bugs. Seizing farmers land in the Netherlands.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6zP6q25zk

Ub6zP6q25zk

Parodite, with all due respect, there is a virtual control room that is staffed with a much more Dangerous group of people than you imagine.

[Parodite]

It’s not that I think that those WEF partygoers are irrelevant people, just that WEF doesn’t decide anything. It’s more like the Friday afternoon drink of a drug cartel. Obsessing about WEF isn’t helpful.

I agree, as I said elsewhere, 2030 is the magnet these globalist oligarchs use as a moment of decisive leverage after which the burocrat-technocrat dictatorship takes control. At least, so they envision. With central bank digital currencies to seal the deal. They are on track and can’t be stopped.

It remains to be seen if they can really pull it all off. Human beings don’t like to be put in cages and controlled by capricious “elite care takers” who give them crumbs and sliced carbon credit burgers. And even if this global techno-buro zoo comes to fruition, it cannot exist and persist very long: it will be another tragic iteration of communism 3.0.

The vulnerabilities of such a global techno-buro system are plenty and deadly early on.

[Doc]

It’s not that I think that those WEF partygoers are irrelevant people, just that WEF doesn’t decide anything. It’s more like the Friday afternoon drink of a drug cartel. Obsessing about WEF isn’t helpful.

I agree, as I said elsewhere, 2030 is the magnet these globalist oligarchs use as a moment of decisive leverage after which the burocrat-technocrat dictatorship takes control. At least, so they envision. With central bank digital currencies to seal the deal. They are on track and can’t be stopped.

It remains to be seen if they can really pull it all off. Human beings don’t like to be put in cages and controlled by capricious “elite care takers” who give them crumbs and sliced carbon credit burgers. And even if this global techno-buro zoo comes to fruition, it cannot exist and persist very long: it will be another tragic iteration of communism 3.0.

The vulnerabilities of such a global techno-buro system are plenty and deadly early on.

Communism for the rich Same ole same old. You will own nothing and we will own everything.

Carbon credits are directly parallel to the Soviet Union's rationing system. There will be special stores that on paper "everyone" can go in an buy things. Thing is that most won't be anybody bur peasants. The Soviet Union lasted 70 year and murdered 61 million of its own people.

My feeling is let those pushing ESG cast the first bankruptcy filing. And given the current economic situation that may actually happen. ANd if it doesn't happen I plan on buying some land and living. Short of getting off the planet that seems like the next best option.

[Nonc Hilaire]

Getting back on topic, control of the Ukraine is the point of the spear for the WEF’s ‘Great Reset’.
https://www.technocracy.news/war-in-ukr ... chnocracy/

The Ukraine has no legitimate government or formal borders, is bankrupt, and is essentially a shell corporation for globalist interests. Even the great globalist warmonger Kissinger is on record recommending the Ukraine be broken up and the war stopped or the west will lose control of Mackinder’s World-Island. https://americandiplomacy.web.unc.edu/2 ... ers-world/

I surprised I agree with Kissinger, but the west needs to shake off this tar baby. Secure territory in the former Ukraine for Poland and for Romania/Moldavia. Keep Russia out of Odessa. Leave a rump Ukraine around Kiev.

[Doc]

Getting back on topic, control of the Ukraine is the point of the spear for the WEF’s ‘Great Reset’.
https://www.technocracy.news/war-in-ukr ... chnocracy/

The Ukraine has no legitimate government or formal borders, is bankrupt, and is essentially a shell corporation for globalist interests. Even the great globalist warmonger Kissinger is on record recommending the Ukraine be broken up and the war stopped or the west will lose control of Mackinder’s World-Island. https://americandiplomacy.web.unc.edu/2 ... ers-world/

I surprised I agree with Kissinger, but the west needs to shake off this tar baby. Secure territory in the former Ukraine for Poland and for Romania/Moldavia. Keep Russia out of Odessa. Leave a rump Ukraine around Kiev.

Of course this is part of the globalist elitist cartel's plans. But I still would not give Putin a good reference.

[Parodite]

Getting back on topic, control of the Ukraine is the point of the spear for the WEF’s ‘Great Reset’.
https://www.technocracy.news/war-in-ukr ... chnocracy/

The Ukraine has no legitimate government or formal borders, is bankrupt, and is essentially a shell corporation for globalist interests. Even the great globalist warmonger Kissinger is on record recommending the Ukraine be broken up and the war stopped or the west will lose control of Mackinder’s World-Island. https://americandiplomacy.web.unc.edu/2 ... ers-world/

I surprised I agree with Kissinger, but the west needs to shake off this tar baby. Secure territory in the former Ukraine for Poland and for Romania/Moldavia. Keep Russia out of Odessa. Leave a rump Ukraine around Kiev.

Too much flew over the cuckoo’s nest there. I smell end-of-the-world porn and satanic conspiracies made in the USA. But it is good deterrence when the US occasionally behaves like an unpredictable mad dog, a confused cyclops with only one eye