The U.K.

[noddy]

their is a huge difference between what is better for the "country" from a government/corporate perspective and what is better from an average joe perspective.

average joes do better with less people, which means cheaper houses and more food and better lifestyles and better wages

corporates do better with millions of desperate doing wage slavery to keep a roof over their head, the more desperate people you have , the cheaper wages are, the more people their are, the more cream you have to skim off the top.

Azari's view of the world is very much the corporate view - but he only believes it for anglo countries, all the other countries should be "blood and soil, natives for natives"

globalism is dead, just some folks are out of touch and cant see it yet, or they are just anti west.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Unless you think Chinese and Indians have much lower IQ compared to Western, what you advocate only delays a bit the inevitable .. and .. end-result is much worst outcome for those sayin what you sayin.

IQ is fine everywhere. Means nothing and is no metric or source for reliable prediction in this context. Maybe Jesus had lower IQ than Jack the Ripper, but look who had more positive impact in the world. Lower IQ people often better readers of emotions and body language. Many animals much smarter in reading others. High IQ is just a modern fetish because it helps succeed in high tech society. High IQ also useful if you are a sociopath or psychopath. Extra tool to fool and manipulate others.

What I advocate, Cyrus 2.0 won't happen yet, the dice has rolled long ago. I'm just sharing my observations and recommendations. To borrow from Jordan Peterson who tries to live and behave as-if God exists, I write on OTNOT as-if anybody cares.

But you never know... a small seed...the butterfly effect....

The extended West, countries who seek win-win cooperation, with same core values (you know what those are).. can perfectly live, survive, thrive in every way while completely ignoring the SIRI cartel. Of course within this Cyrus the Great 2.0 empire, people can easily migrate, work anywhere with work visa, with each member state of course decides on its own immigration/refugee policies.

But you guessed it, this Empire, which will grow in size and power very easily, will have the largest army in the world with all deterrence you need to keep naughty cartels at bay outside the gate. It needs no violent conquests because it is the place everybody wants to be. Russia will join earlier than you'd expect because this is where it belongs. Being best friend of giant Poo Xi Panda is not a very safe posotion. Han Chinese only know one type of game: win-lose. Gangster logic.

China will end up more isolated, but as a modern economic colonizer it will gain significant territory in Africa, that is basically defenceless. If any ethnic group looks down on bogged down African blacks it is Han Chinese.

But Africans have tribal instincts as strong as any, which means at one point they realize they have let themselves be re-colonized again! Then it is a matter of time before those small yellow Han rats are kicked out if not exterminated.

USA decline will continue, but even half its size and power still a formidable force. Because very dynamic culture.. things can also suddenly turn around in right direction.

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In history of last 8000 yrs, China and Persi*ns ruled the world @least for 4-5000 yrs, uninterrupted .. they "colonialized" nobody.

Persi*ns and Chinese knew Africa, Europe, India etc very well, nobody was colonized neither plundered.

Romans started the spirit of plundering, colonializing, following the Athenian steps.

"Free labour" (slaves) went together with plundering others.

The famous "Hellenic Democracy" was only for "citizens", who were few .. The slave were the vast majority.

That mindset is still prevalent in West .. unfortunately.

If any ethnic group looks down on bogged down African blacks it is Han Chinese.

In "Old Civilizations" of Persi*ns and Chinese, it was always کبوتر با کبوتر , باز با باز , کند همجنس پرواز , crud translation: "birds of a feather flock together"

Notion that racial (and cultural) mixing shows and means "liberalism" is kidding oneself, it does not.

Racism was invented by West, by romans and Greek, the real Barbarians.

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[Heracleum Persicum]

their is a huge difference between what is better for the "country" from a government/corporate perspective and what is better from an average joe perspective.

average joes do better with less people, which means cheaper houses and more food and better lifestyles and better wages

corporates do better with millions of desperate doing wage slavery to keep a roof over their head, the more desperate people you have , the cheaper wages are, the more people their are, the more cream you have to skim off the top.

Azari's view of the world is very much the corporate view - but he only believes it for anglo countries, all the other countries should be "blood and soil, natives for natives"

globalism is dead, just some folks are out of touch and cant see it yet, or they are just anti west.

In final analysis, a nation, a country, a company must produce products at prices that the world wants to buy at that price.

Looking at countries producing and exporting natural resources goods, Oil, gas, Iron ore, copper, agri products etc, one can see very clearly that all those "natural resource goods" and Agri, have set world market price.

Same concept, thinking, applies to industrial products, EV, TV, etc etc .

Sayin corporation want this, government wanting that, labour wanting whatever is meaningless.


Sayin globalism is dead means German consumer should not be able to buy a Chinese EV that is half price and superior to an Audi EV

Nations should concentrate on sector where they are among top 3 best in the world. , otherwise don't bother

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[noddy]

globalism is an absurdity.

multi polar world full of countries with mutal interests is all we can have now.

open immigration, world market .. gone.

cooperation between countries that trust eachother and are culturally compatible is what comes next.

Russia and China have both proven a western country that relies on them for any product, is an durian

[Heracleum Persicum]

globalism is an absurdity.

multi polar world full of countries with mutal interests is all we can have now.

open immigration, world market .. gone.

cooperation between countries that trust eachother and are culturally compatible is what comes next.

Russia and China have both proven a western country that relies on them for any product, is an durian

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High Living Standard, prosperity, must be earned NOW

There no free lunch anymore

Non Western world was "paying for", subsidizing, high Western living standard. This now is being eroded, Global south refusing to sign anymore on the dotted line.

West "walling off" will lead to dramatic fall of western living standard.

Western nations, even to keep things as is, need 10s of millions immigrant every year .. and .. would be fortunate if still would get "white" immigrants .. there not many white willing immigrants left .. Chinese, Indian, African are the only choice.

Corporation will not suffer as they move to where profits are .. Corporation means entrepreneurs and they move to where business is .. labour will suffer as consume and wages would fall.


Bloomberg
Mar 26, 2024
China’s Xi Jinping Meets With US Business Leaders in Beijing


Business is now borderless, International, moves where profits are, where consumption is.


Dutch Invest €2.5 Billion in Eindhoven to Keep ASML at Home
Government looks for ways to keep ASML’s expansion at home

Dutch far-right leader Geert Wilders said on Wednesday, March 13, that he would not be prime minister despite his stunning election win in November, due to a lack of support across the political spectrum. "I can only become Prime Minister if ALL parties in the coalition support it."

Labour has lost it's power, Joe has lost power

Where does the money come from for social services ? from Companies who must make profit and pay wages .. Notion taxes come from wages ignoring where wages come from.

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[noddy]

you have no idea what you are talking about it yet you insist on saying it over and over and over.

western joe has already lost the race to the bottom, we have 2 generations now cant afford a house in their own countries.

western joe cant get health care anymore, those social services you babble on about have all gone.

this isnt the future, it was 10 years ago.

best bet now for western joe is to let it collapse, make it collapse, so it can be cheap like south east asia and then ban immigrants to keep it cheap.

access to food and housing is everything, nobody gives a lavender who is making the airplanes.

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the bit you dont understand is that the western guy who used to make 100k against the indian guy who made 30k - they just import the 30k indian guy into the west

western joe , he lost his job and his house anyway.

its better for western joe to have a house and food - he has no chance of getting a good job in the global market.

we are all africans now - only the places with good food and houses will live well , everyone else gets the getto.

[noddy]

Western nations, even to keep things as is, need 10s of millions immigrant every year .. and .. would be fortunate if still would get "white" immigrants .. there not many white willing immigrants left .. Chinese, Indian, African are the only choice.

thats more true for Iran, Russia, China than it is for the west.

and you never say that.

so I can tell you dont believe it.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Western nations, even to keep things as is, need 10s of millions immigrant every year .. and .. would be fortunate if still would get "white" immigrants .. there not many white willing immigrants left .. Chinese, Indian, African are the only choice.

thats more true for Iran, Russia, China than it is for the west.

and you never say that.

so I can tell you dont believe it.

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Iran does not have any immigration law, there no such law, never been .. nobody can become Iranian .. by birth, either you by law Iranian or not ..

Only way one is Iranian is either "Father is Iranian", or born in Iran, or married to an Iranian man .. if mother is Iranian and husband not, the child is not Iranian if not born in Iran (they apparently changing this) .. Iranian man married to non Iranian women, she on the spot automatically becomes Iranian. Not so the foreign husband of Iranian women.

Iran is "Overpopulated" .. when Shah left Iran had less that 30 m population .. now 100 m

AFAIK neither China has any immigration policy, nobody can become Chinese

Russia different .. they love white people coming and staying in Russia .. for some reason neither Indian nor Africa like moving to Russia (thanks God )
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[Heracleum Persicum]

you have no idea what you are talking about it yet you insist on saying it over and over and over.

western joe has already lost the race to the bottom, we have 2 generations now cant afford a house in their own countries.

western joe cant get health care anymore, those social services you babble on about have all gone.

this isnt the future, it was 10 years ago.

best bet now for western joe is to let it collapse, make it collapse, so it can be cheap like south east asia and then ban immigrants to keep it cheap.

access to food and housing is everything, nobody gives a lavender who is making the airplanes.


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the bit you dont understand is that the western guy who used to make 100k against the indian guy who made 30k - they just import the 30k indian guy into the west

western joe , he lost his job and his house anyway.

its better for western joe to have a house and food - he has no chance of getting a good job in the global market.

we are all africans now - only the places with good food and houses will live well , everyone else gets the getto.

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noddy, all you saying above is true .. the facts are clear and can no be denied

The only question I disagree is " Why things ended up here ? " .. why white man has lost his job and must work now for half what he was making before ? .. why white man working can not buy a house etc etc


IMVHO, this is the fault of the each country "ruling elite"

- In Switzerland since 200 yrs, non Swiss citizen can not buy any property .. Real estate is only for Swiss citizens

- German laws dictate that workers at large companies elect up to half the members of supervisory boards .. labour represents 50% of company board and decides on business, for mutual benefit of Workers and company

That is why there "shortage" of labour in Germany and wages are high

Also Germans industry reinvents and reinvents .. and .. trains their workers.


Truth is this :

English world , UK, America , Australia .. the labour and capital are no friends but adversary .. Capital does not care about welfare of Labour, and other-way too

Not so in Japan, Germany, they in the same boat

1980's RR times, when for the first time VW wanted to start building VW outside Germany (in Mexico), German VW labour union studied the project and overwhelmingly "approved" it.

The "Anglo elite" failed their workers .. sill same mindset

Blame your own elite and not "globalization" and "immigration" etc etc
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[noddy]

Semantics

The opposite of globalism is nationalism/protectionism ... Like your examples.

Immigration is bad when its run by globalists.

Lower immigration that doesnt disrupt the local economy badly is a good thing.

The elites only get away with it because 50% of the population benefits from ever increasing house prices and cheaper , more desperate workers.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Semantics

The opposite of globalism is nationalism/protectionism ... Like your examples.

Immigration is bad when its run by globalists.

Lower immigration that doesnt disrupt the local economy badly is a good thing.

The elites only get away with it because 50% of the population benefits from ever increasing house prices and cheaper , more desperate workers.

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What Western Joe calls "immigration", they ain't immigration. They all "refugees"

Easy to check

- How many Syrian immigrants came to any Western countries, before Wester "Freedom fighters" started beheading .. NOT any

- How many Iranians came to Australia, Canada, Europe and US before West sanctioned Iran 1979 ? ? .. NOT any

- How many Iraqi came to Australia, Canada, Europe and US before Western "Abu Ghraib torture ?" .. NOT any

- How many Libyan swam to Italy (and drowned) during "Libyan Golden period" of Qaddafi, B4 West destroyed it ? .. Not any



Said many times, nobody likes to leave home and move to foreign places and not be welcome

The Best proof for this case are "Ukrainian refugee" .. more than six million refugees have found shelter abroad .. these NO "immigrants", they refugee .. much worst with Syrians, Afghan, Iraqi and Palestinians

Middle Eastern do not like to immigrate as life in Middle East is a warm "extended family & friends" community culture, unlike in the West where individualism rules.


Read an article about an Ukrainian lady who was a teacher in Ukraine village, in Germany she had to wash dishes as she did not speak German and she decided to go back to Ukraine to her teaching job accepting bombs raining on her .. you see how "immigrants" feel.

Said many many times, West, you guys, must be very happy that all these refugee coming otherwise Western population would experience what Japan now experiencing, empty villages and population collapse.

US has opened the southern borders for "free entry" of Latinos to US, millions come in every months .. Biden looking the other way

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[Parodite]

Most Muslims die because of inter-Muslim "civil war" and this civil war will continue for next centuries. To claim that all refugees exist only because of Western agression is childlike nonsense. Putin invaded Ukraine, he had no reasons only excuses. West certainly reason of many refugees as in Iraq war and Lybia. But both Iraq and Lybia were not "paradise"; dictatorships are brutal in and of themselves. Saddam typical muderous gangster who deserved to be whacked, however not by all out war: way too many innocent civilian victims. I agree with HP. Gaddafi less brutal, but still dictator-clown and certainly biggest Obama mistake to go to war there.

But these Western crimes don't white wash the crimes of Putin in Ukraine of course. HP seems to have a fetish with this sort of white washing activities and inventing all sorts of twisted excuses. Blame the West for everything and have your mad mullahs laugh when Iranian drones kill civilians in Ukraine. Perverse.

As for the UK, it is downhill from here. People are less and less free to speak their minds in public, with a woke police ready to put you in handcuffs for making a bad joke on twitter. Rabid Islamists are protected instead of exposed and thrown out of the country, their toxic Islamic clubhouses dismantled. This contrast and moral inconsistency will wreck the UK the coming decades.

[Parodite]

The Left’s Hypocritical Love Affair With ISLAMISM - Nuriyah Khan (4k) | heretics. 41

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Hate crime epidemic in Scotland. I wonder what the state Dept travel warning will look like.

https://modernity.news/2024/04/09/hate- ... -combined/

Hate Crime Reports in Scotland Set to Outnumber All Other Crimes Combined
Paul Joseph Watson
9th April 2024
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“People are genuinely embarrassed.”
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Hate crime reports in Scotland are on course to outnumber the total of all other offences combined as a result of the disastrous new law that has been weaponized by political activists.

Under the new legislation, anyone deemed to have been verbally ‘abusive’, in person or online, to a transgender person, including “insulting” them could be hit with a prison sentence of up to seven years.

After conservatives made a mockery of the legislation and deranged left-wing activists exploited it to target their political adversaries, officers have been deluged with vexatious reports, with one top official complaining “we cannot cope.”

The sheer number of bad faith complaints coming in is ludicrous.

“Around 8,000 hate crime reports have been made in the first week of the new Scottish legislation coming into force, which, if replicated through the year, would surpass the entire annual total of 416,000 crimes reported to police, according to an analysis of official data by The Telegraph.”

“This would mean that hate crime reports would overtake overall crime within 36 weeks, or at least by the autumn, and dwarf the annual 58,000 reported assaults, the most common offence in Scotland, by a factor of 10.”


David Threadgold, chairman of the Scottish Police Federation, said the numbers were proof the new law had been “weaponized” to pursue personal and political vendettas, a throwback to the Communist and Nazi era, when informants filed false reports on neighbors they didn’t like.

Police Scotland is already struggling to respond to actual crimes such as sexual assaults and car thefts, and the drain on resources caused by the hate crime law will only exacerbate that issue.

As we previously highlighted, Police Scotland admitted that the new law could create “additional demand” and worsen a “resource implication” for police.

This followed a trial of a separate program set to be implemented across the country to stop investigating crimes like theft and criminal damage, which authorities acknowledge will help criminals.

Calum Steele, the former general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, told the Telegraph that his phone has “barely stopped buzzing” from colleagues contacting him after the passage of the law.

Describing the reaction as a “metaphorical holding of heads,” Steele says there’s a feeling that policing “seems to have lost its compass.”

“People are genuinely embarrassed. They feel that the service and by extension [they] as individual police officers will catch some of the public brunt,” he said.

If only they’d listened to literally almost everybody who predicted this would happen before the law was passed.

[Typhoon]

One supposes that it's only a matter of time before Scotland has its own heroic Pavlik_Morozov legend.

Patsy Morrison, who reported his parents to the authorities with their subsequent trial and harsh punishment,
for their disapproval of him prancing about in his sister's knickers.

[Typhoon]

Most Muslims die because of inter-Muslim "civil war" and this civil war will continue for next centuries. To claim that all refugees exist only because of Western agression is childlike nonsense. Putin invaded Ukraine, he had no reasons only excuses. West certainly reason of many refugees as in Iraq war and Lybia. But both Iraq and Lybia were not "paradise"; dictatorships are brutal in and of themselves. Saddam typical muderous gangster who deserved to be whacked, however not by all out war: way too many innocent civilian victims. I agree with HP. Gaddafi less brutal, but still dictator-clown and certainly biggest Obama mistake to go to war there.

But these Western crimes don't white wash the crimes of Putin in Ukraine of course. HP seems to have a fetish with this sort of white washing activities and inventing all sorts of twisted excuses. Blame the West for everything and have your mad mad Mad mad mad mad mad mullahs laugh when Iranian drones kill civilians in Ukraine. Perverse.

As for the UK, it is downhill from here. People are less and less free to speak their minds in public, with a woke police ready to put you in handcuffs for making a bad joke on twitter. Rabid Islamists are protected instead of exposed and thrown out of the country, their toxic Islamic clubhouses dismantled. This contrast and moral inconsistency will wreck the UK the coming decades.

Quite.