Countering "Western adventurism"

[AzariLoveIran]

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A flexing of Chinese and Russian muscle against Western adventurism in Iran, Syria and beyond is on full display at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit. Backed by talks between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Iranian counterpart Mahmud Ahmadinejad, Beijing and Moscow are putting center stage a united front to block Western attempts at regime change.



well, folks , you lost Iran

and

most probably

you lost the war


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[Enki]

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A flexing of Chinese and Russian muscle against Western adventurism in Iran, Syria and beyond is on full display at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit. Backed by talks between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Iranian counterpart Mahmud Ahmadinejad, Beijing and Moscow are putting center stage a united front to block Western attempts at regime change.



well, folks , you lost Iran

and

most probably

you lost the war


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We can only hope.

[Zack Morris]

The Russians are fools. They have much in common with Iran: both are decaying states nostalgic for their bygone empires, which will never be ressurected. Like pathetic junkies, they are too addicted to the fleeting highs of oil fumes to spare any thought or effort for the long term future. Russia is militarily weak, save for its rotting nuclear arsenal, and is no natural ally of China. China and Russia are forced to rely on each other when coordinating votes on the UN Security Council because of mutual political inexperience and objectives that conflict with developed, democratic states. But the Chinese covet the Russian far east, which Russia is unable to manage or exploit. If not for the nukes, Russia would lose even nominal political control of the region within this century.

[AzariLoveIran]

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The Russians are fools. They have much in common with Iran: both are decaying states nostalgic for their bygone empires, which will never be resurrected. Like pathetic junkies, they are too addicted to the fleeting highs of oil fumes to spare any thought or effort for the long term future. Russia is militarily weak, save for its rotting nuclear arsenal, and is no natural ally of China. China and Russia are forced to rely on each other when coordinating votes on the UN Security Council because of mutual political inexperience and objectives that conflict with developed, democratic states. But the Chinese covet the Russian far east, which Russia is unable to manage or exploit. If not for the nukes, Russia would lose even nominal political control of the region within this century.

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Zack ,

you still in 20th century

West, last 200 yrs, took advantage of Middle East, Russia, China (and India) fallin back .. by brute military force coming from western industrialization

those spaces, nations and people, were discouraged, lost self confidence .. and .. west did best to put them down as much as could

but

things have changed

now

Middle Eastern people, Chinese people, Indian people, have gained self confidence

and

West has lost military advantage .. with negligent effort catastrophic damage can be effected

China already leading .. in less than a generation, Chinese universities and scientist and and will be # 1, if not much sooner

Same with ME, Iran, India

Russia part of these group, top notch scientist, resources and and

you might not see it, but sun setting on the west

in generation or two things will be totally different

west will shrink .. East will rise

Markets will be in east

and the one with the market, and being able to pay the bills, is king

western golden ages behind us .. a shameful age .. enriching on the cost of 7/8 of earth inhabitants .. Raubrittertum .. perpetual wars, enslavement, poverty and misery for 7/8 of humanity

western eggheads, neocons and Zionist, still would not let go .. until a catastrophic event makes them clear things have changed

W.Bush was not ready letting Iran have even one centrifuge, let alone enrich 20% (10,000s of new generation centrifuge), loading the medical reactor with Iranian made elements, and, if west fucks up, headed to 90% enrichment .. and .. new clearing system (genuflect SWIFT) .. and .. Japan, China, Brazil already trading in non U$, so Iran & India and and

and

Cyber-war, virus, god sent omen for Iran and others

America playing last cards .. the more card America plays, the more west becomes irrelevant

America is pushed towards the cliff .. like Germans were pushed and Russians were pushed

Rhubarb, America the last game


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[AzariLoveIran]

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Former colonial and slave-trading governments that today deceptively preach about freedom and democracy have the extreme tendency of reviving the colonialist era when they robbed the wealth and riches of nations, especially in Asia, Africa and Latin America, thus setting the scene for current conflicts and crises in the world, said President Ahmadinejad in a Thursday address to the 12th meeting of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in the Chinese capital of Beijing.

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Economic crises have spilled over the world and are on the verge of turning into social and political crises, said the president, blaming it on the “inefficient and discriminatory system” that has dominated the globe.

Noting that states like China, India, Iran, Russia, Kazakhstan, and other SCO members are rapidly making great economic advances, the Iranian chief executive reiterated that extensive plans by the US-led NATO states for an eastward expansion to halt this progress and revive the past colonialist order have become quite obvious.

Ahmadinejad pointed out that NATO’s expansion eastward is meant to impede the development of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) member states, stressing on the need for developing new systems independent of the dominant one.

He emphasized that the US-led wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq are part of such “sophisticated scheming,” but the current order has failed “due to its unjust and inhumane features” and is approaching its end.

President Ahmadinejad then suggested to his fellow SCO leaders that to achieve such objectives, “we need to distance ourselves from the current order and make new arrangements.”

The Iranian president specifically offered the following four proposals to SCO leaders:

1- Build regional and international collaboration among member states and those nations that seek a just and humane global order.

2- Expand economic cooperation and design and implement new monetary and financial systems.

3- Establish international financial, monetary and economic institutions outside the dominancy of hegemonic powers.

4- Promote cultural and political ties towards the expansion of friendship and harmony to counter the insistence of others on sowing discord and divisiveness.


Expounding on his proposals, President Ahmadinejad said, “We must realize that colonialist powers are opposed to China’s progress to the same extent they resist the growth of Russia, India, Iran, Pakistan and other SCO member states.”

He added that if SCO members cut their monetary ties with the dominant currency in global economic interactions, they would thus save a great portion of their national interests and resources from “flowing freely to the pockets of hegemonic powers.”

The president, who has on different occasions called for an overhaul in the global order, further urged investments among member states as a matter that would benefit all concerned parties.

Iran’s top executive concluded his remarks by reiterating Islamic Republic’s readiness to expand its cooperation “at the highest level” and support all of SCO’s “just and humane objectives.”

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