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Demon of Undoing wrote:Screw the bonehead that wrote this particular piece, it's just the first one I found.

Geriatric terrorists assault SS office over lapsed Viagra payoff, DHS repulses gray wave.

Okay, that's probably a misleading headline, but WTF. Why should I be the last one reporting on political matters to have a regard for the unvarnished truth.

Has little to do with Obama and conspiracies unmentionable. Instead, it's the logical extension of the absolutely depraved level of paranoia established firmly in the mind of anybody in law enforcement. Back in the day, American police went out of their way to not look like the military, to the point of wearing antiquated ( and frankly annoying) types of uniforms that established a civilian authority.

Yes, those old cops in peaked caps, jodhpurs and other bits of militaria from antiquity had " assault weapons " of the day ( Thompson SMG, BARs in many cases, like that sort of thing depending how far back). Especially post-war, there was also a constant supply of blooded veterans that could use them, too. However, they simply did not roll that way unless they had to, specifically so they wouldnt scare old people and make them think they were being controlled by an army as opposed to policed by a neighbor. Must not have those concerns any more,I guess.

Thank you VERY MUCH for your post and the link, Bezerk/Demon

Was having no luck searching for it myself.........
Geriatric terrorists assault SS office over lapsed Viagra payoff, DHS repulses gray wave
Thank you also for this "headline" ;) :) :D :lol: :lol: :lol: .........

Actually you may have accidentally??? hit on a possible basis for a new currency if we/US have a "hard crash" :wink: ........

Viagra which is so necessary when you go to see Alice :wink: oops I mean Cialis :wink: ............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadalafil
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Mr. Perfect wrote:You know, I finally figured out the fleabagger thing. It took me awhile, and I'm embarrassed at how long but I finally figured it out.

The left needed an authenticity movement without hurting the host party, the Democrats. Fleabagging allowed them to direct blame away from the WH for policy failure towards an old whipping post, Wall Street and "the rich". This misdirected blame away from the Obama failure and allowed for a reinvigorated self delusion of being down with the struggle, and powerful like the Tea Party and on and on.

Ugh. The lengths these people will go to. I will give you this fleabaggers, you do make us work for it. Work hard sometimes.

Yeah, except " the left" didn't decide to do this at one of their meetings. People that may tend left were on the ground floor, but they were as far from the Democratic/ Obama machine as TP types are. If O or the Ds tried to horn in on it, that's one thing. But Occupy has a legitimate gripe.
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Demon of Undoing wrote:. . . But Occupy has a legitimate gripe.
Yes, they certainly do.

Whether or not their methods are sound, and whether or not they are effective are other issues.
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Demon of Undoing wrote:

I'm at an " all bets are off" stage of my life. I'm not telling anybody they're taking it too far any more. When you need Level IV body armor, an M4 and a sidearm to do spot checks on security cameras at a neighborhood Social Security office( occurred locally), I'm no longer prepared to say what can and can't happen.

All I can say is that if they want to reeducate me, them fuckers got their work cut out. The first time around was years of pure hell that didn't work besides. And that's before I started drinking on a strategic level...
I too am at a 'all bets are off' stage and pursue a 0.000005% chance of success path augmented by a Globally strategic drinking level.

I survived a 5 year, all inclusive, re-education programme, the fuckers didn't succeed then and they won't now.
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Demon of Undoing wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:You know, I finally figured out the fleabagger thing. It took me awhile, and I'm embarrassed at how long but I finally figured it out.

The left needed an authenticity movement without hurting the host party, the Democrats. Fleabagging allowed them to direct blame away from the WH for policy failure towards an old whipping post, Wall Street and "the rich". This misdirected blame away from the Obama failure and allowed for a reinvigorated self delusion of being down with the struggle, and powerful like the Tea Party and on and on.

Ugh. The lengths these people will go to. I will give you this fleabaggers, you do make us work for it. Work hard sometimes.

Yeah, except " the left" didn't decide to do this at one of their meetings. People that may tend left were on the ground floor, but they were as far from the Democratic/ Obama machine as TP types are. If O or the Ds tried to horn in on it, that's one thing. But Occupy has a legitimate gripe.
The thing is if the economy was good none of this would be happening. Leftists are congenitally predisposed to having flash protests, I've never put any stock in that activity from them.

I do hear people say they have legitimate gripes, nobody ever says what they are though.
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Did you see the post about the return on lobbying?

That's the beef.
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Typhoon wrote:
Demon of Undoing wrote:. . . But Occupy has a legitimate gripe.
Yes, they certainly do.

Whether or not their methods are sound, and whether or not they are effective are other issues.

I still say it hangs on popular support. Regardless of whether or not the gripe is legitimate (I think it is) if enough people get behind it, they can implement their changes either legislatively or, in a radical scenario, through force.

But most people don't support it. It seems to me that the silent majority think both the OWS campers and the old Tea Party lawnchair astroturf crowd are all kooks and losers, and are happy to ignore whatever they say from the comfort of their homes.
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AzariLoveIran wrote:.

everything with moderation, except LOVE

- Garry Grant

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Thank you VERY Much for your post, Azari.

Hmmmmmmmmmm..........................

Not bad but I wonder............... If I/we/us/mortals/monsters are up to the task of unmoderated love...........

That's big bad bodacious bodhi job................... *

Love hurts............ Often a lot............ Can cost you an arm or an eye......... or multiple lives.............


OTOH Moderation in Moderation can be wise per William Lloyd Garrison and the late Joel Rosenberg...................

Especially in life or death fights................ Judged by 12 versus Carried by 6...................


Moderation is very important with nuclear reactors..........

at least that's what my heavy physics pal Deuterium Oxide says :wink:

Especially if you have a CANDU attitude and Thor's metal is your friend..............


* which means ultimately we are..........
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monster_gardener wrote:.

Moderation is very important with nuclear reactors..........

at least that's what my heavy physics pal Deuterium Oxide says :wink:

Especially if you have a CANDU attitude and Thor's metal is your friend..............

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Moster_Gardener ,

good news

Leon (Panetta) saying Capability is OK .. meaning 2B able to make nuclear bombs is OK, just don't make it

we in business

Remember W.Bush was saying Iranians should not have even the knowledge and know-how to make the pumpkin ?

well

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Demon of Undoing wrote:Did you see the post about the return on lobbying?

That's the beef.
What's amazing about that post is how it destroys the fleabaggers.

The fleabaggers see corporate lobbying and blame the corporations, but what is embarrassingly obvious is that the true corruption came from the government, in that a company gave it's routine stipend and was rewarded with gains they couldn't even believe. The company itself recalculated their windfall in disbelief. So how is this the fault of the corporations, exactly?

Same thing with the bailouts. The banks were broke. They were BROKE!!! How do broke businesses have influence over the govenment? They don't have any money to corrupt anybody with! So how in the h#!! does a broke bank corruptingly shake the government down for any money?

The answer is the government in this case is the corrupt entity, not the corporations.

But the movement is Occupy Wall Street, NOT Occupy DC. This simply shows the fleabaggers are ignorant or have crafted an agenda meant to obfuscate the truth. The truth is that the ruling Democrat party saw an opportunity to create state control over a whole new section of the American economy and greedily reached for it. It blew up in their faces practically and politically, but there is no mistaking their intent.

This whole movement is bassakwerd, whether it be on accident or on purpose. It's not to be taken remotely seriously.
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Your supposition rests on two notions.

1) Banks were broke and had no influence- they had the influence of having positioned their own people in the halls of the WH, dug in as deep as an Alabama tick( extra credit: cite the movie that uses that line). The fix was already in. Why did the USG act? Because zaibatsu drone Paulson told the below average intellects in the relevant committees that the world was days away from a joint Michael Bay/ Paul Voerhoven film festival for the duration of the next dark age. Then of course, people started counting favors and saw where their bread was buttered/ campaign was contributed. Bush killed capitalism to save capitalism ( almost his words), and the rest is ( criminal) history.

2) The Left/Dems made an attempt to nationalize the banks- The actual history of the thing- Paulson as chicken little, the arm twisting that resulted in the re-vote after the " end is near" speech- shows the truth of the matter. The truth is that there was no real attempt to nationalize the banks. There was instead an effort augmented by senators/congressmen that were bought employees of the banks to have the dolts that populate Washington vote out of fear. It's not that Congress wanted to own Wall Street, its that they didnt want to have their wives be forced to eat their pet Corgi as the welfare junkies stood drooling and starving out at the barbed wire perimeter. Supposing it was a Democrat/ leftist plot to nationalize the banks misses the tail wagging the dog. The USG was ostensibly in a regulatory role that should have dealt with some of the excesses and leverage- except there again, the financial types had their foxes guarding the hen houses already.

Does the USG bear the sin of complicity? Sure. But this was an inside job to the tune of trillions. The banksters came to Washington, Washington didnt come to the banksters. When they did come, they came at the call of Goldman Sacks.


Note: Did Comrade Obama try to pile on the gravy distribution/ stimulus? Did he think he maybe had the upper hand with the banks and then later the hungry mouths of the gravified congressional districts? Was he trying not to let a crisis go waste for the proletariat? Maybe. Maybe if he'd have succeeded, you'd be in a camp somewhere. Maybe. But what isn't maybe is that Obama came in with the Red fervor and the masses behind him, with the comradely representatives of the workers in step. He marched the red horde right into the teeth of the bosses and the moneychangers.

Three years later, Obama's numbers are in the toilet, GS is doing gangbusters and getting free money from the Fed. Similarly, I note that Marx is now a trivia question on a game show, but the Rothschilds are still collecting interest and fees. Who won? Do the math. As much as I watch the USG like a hawk, I mostly have to do so because it can be made to work for private interests. That is the case in this matter.
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The "broke" banks had the same sort of influence a hostage taker has over his victims. The vast majority of TARP supporters were afraid, not corrupt, even if the actual design and administration of TARP (conducted by former Wall Street execs) was.
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with regards occupy and the mainstream, id say the latest approach of the "zombie shuffle" is doing way more harm than good...

http://wn.com/Melbourne_Zombie_Shuffle
http://www.walkingmaps.com.au/Individua ... ?walkId=67

hassling people in the train station and calling em worker zombies isnt exactly endearing yourself to anyone and just confirms pre-existing bias.
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AzariLoveIran wrote:.

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If you don't find the need to defrag your brain occasionaly then you probably aren't thinking hard enough.
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noddy wrote:with regards occupy and the mainstream, id say the latest approach of the "zombie shuffle" is doing way more harm than good...

http://wn.com/Melbourne_Zombie_Shuffle
http://www.walkingmaps.com.au/Individua ... ?walkId=67

hassling people in the train station and calling em worker zombies isnt exactly endearing yourself to anyone and just confirms pre-existing bias.
To me Zombie fascination is stupidity confirmation but I hadn't heard these morons were hassling people with brains.
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the tea party was easily ignorable because of the christian fundies ranting about gays (queue redneck durian stereotype) and occupy australia is pretty much doing the same thing to itself with stunts like this. (queue whiny arts student stereotype)
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Proof that Occupy Wall Street has been the most successful political movement of our time in the shortest amount of time.

http://www.kingofbain.com/

This is NEWT GINGRICH and his message.

We've won folks, we have genuflecting won!
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You're right. OWS is definitely making major progress.

Newt's message is that Romney is a heartless capitalist who doesn't care about the working class.

Obama wouldn't have gotten away with saying this before OWS.
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That's good infowar, right there. And yes, I don't see anybody on the Republican side making that ad unless they were polling sympathy, not so much with the Occupy brand, but Occupy messaging.

Nice.
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Enki wrote:Proof that Occupy Wall Street has been the most successful political movement of our time in the shortest amount of time.

http://www.kingofbain.com/

This is NEWT GINGRICH and his message.

We've won folks, we have genuflecting won!
Thank you Very Much for your post and the link, Tinker Enki.

Could be a Newtron :wink: Bomb for Romney................

Has got Sean Hannity worried that Newt going negative could help Obama. Wants Newt to be positive....... but had to admit that Romney started it first in Iowa.......
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noddy wrote:the tea party was easily ignorable because of the christian fundies ranting about gays (queue redneck durian stereotype) and occupy australia is pretty much doing the same thing to itself with stunts like this. (queue whiny arts student stereotype)
What do these tarded zombie walks have to do with Occupy? nowhere have you provided any substantive link between them and Occupy?
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Enki wrote:Proof that Occupy Wall Street has been the most successful political movement of our time in the shortest amount of time.

http://www.kingofbain.com/

This is NEWT GINGRICH and his message.

We've won folks, we have genuflecting won!
Really? I wouldn't trust Donut boy as far as I could throw him, he would say anything to get a vote then sell off whatever to balance the books for next election.

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Carbizene wrote:
noddy wrote:the tea party was easily ignorable because of the christian fundies ranting about gays (queue redneck durian stereotype) and occupy australia is pretty much doing the same thing to itself with stunts like this. (queue whiny arts student stereotype)
What do these tarded zombie walks have to do with Occupy? nowhere have you provided any substantive link between them and Occupy?
1)) im not against occupy, im not particularly against anything
2)) it came to me from my occupy friends in melbourne and unfortunately they where very happy with it
3)) i was just mentioning how it plays out in australia and things that are counter productive.. in my way i was being helpful
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Enki wrote:Proof that Occupy Wall Street has been the most successful political movement of our time in the shortest amount of time.

http://www.kingofbain.com/

This is NEWT GINGRICH and his message.

We've won folks, we have genuflecting won!
What did you win exactly?

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